I have to agree Chronic. I fail to see any footballer new generation or old as good as Ronaldo. I’m in my early 30s so obviously to young to see the Pele’s and Maradonna’s but I just fail to see anyone with the level of consistency over different top leagues as Ronaldo. I don’t care what anyone says, Pele did it mostly in in the Brazilian league which is an extremely poor standard compared to the rest of Europe. Not denying his immense talent, but Ronaldo for me is GOAT. No player better in world football ever, greatest of all time.
Edward, Ronaldo will be going until he’s 39/40 no doubt mate. Incredible athlete to which a lot of the older generation don’t even compare to.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
I have to agree Chronic. I fail to see any footballer new generation or old as good as Ronaldo. I’m in my early 30s so obviously to young to see the Pele’s and Maradonna’s but I just fail to see anyone with the level of consistency over different top leagues as Ronaldo. I don’t care what anyone says, Pele did it mostly in in the Brazilian league which is an extremely poor standard compared to the rest of Europe. Not denying his immense talent, but Ronaldo for me is GOAT. No player better in world football ever, greatest of all time.
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Not having that Don, Pele won three world cup winning medals over 12 years, and played for Santos one of the greatest ever club sides, just because they did not play in Europe did not make them a great side. The South American sides of Pele`s era pretty well cleaned up everything when they did meet European sides.
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 45 minutes ago
Ronaldo is GOAT for me... its actually not even close.
Messi is an absolutely ridiculous footballer, but Ronaldo literally has everything
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Only in the modern era mate, to just dismiss every other footballer that went before, because two players have trousered lots of goals in a two or three team division is crass to say the least.
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posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
I have to agree Chronic. I fail to see any footballer new generation or old as good as Ronaldo. I’m in my early 30s so obviously to young to see the Pele’s and Maradonna’s but I just fail to see anyone with the level of consistency over different top leagues as Ronaldo. I don’t care what anyone says, Pele did it mostly in in the Brazilian league which is an extremely poor standard compared to the rest of Europe. Not denying his immense talent, but Ronaldo for me is GOAT. No player better in world football ever, greatest of all time.
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Not having that Don, Pele won three world cup winning medals over 12 years, and played for Santos one of the greatest ever club sides, just because they did not play in Europe did not make them a great side. The South American sides of Pele`s era pretty well cleaned up everything when they did meet European sides.
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Sandy, you can’t tell me the Brazilian league even in your era was of high standard mate sorry. I have seen the highlights of a lot of Pele’s goals and the defending is absolutely atrocious. The Brazilian league has always been pretty poor standard, I really don’t think that’s changed really mate. Santos probably were a great club side not denying that, but the standard was extremely poor throughout the league, hence the ridiculous amount of goals Pele scored. Ronaldo has done it consistently in Spain, England and now Italy. Scored more champions league goals against Europe’s elite more than anyone. Won the European cup with an average Portugal side. Countless trophies with Real Madrid. Sorry, but you can’t beat that mate.
Messi and Ronaldo are on the same level and miles ahead of anyone else and have been for years.
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comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 45 minutes ago
Ronaldo is GOAT for me... its actually not even close.
Messi is an absolutely ridiculous footballer, but Ronaldo literally has everything
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Only in the modern era mate, to just dismiss every other footballer that went before, because two players have trousered lots of goals in a two or three team division is crass to say the least.
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That’s because no footballer in the older generation comes close to Ronaldo or Messi in terms of stats in the top leagues mate. They are complete freaks of nature. Apart from Pele ( who did it mostly in the Brazilian league) what older generation footballer has scored in the level of consistency as Ronaldo or Messi in the top leagues ? We are talking stats like 600 goals to 700 games ratio here mate.
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 8 minutes ago
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
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Pele's a fraud
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 8 minutes ago
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
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Pele's a fraud
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so are you
YO! Put respek on Pele's name dammit!
Yes them 2 are freaks but come on, the big difference is attacking players being protected more from foolish tackles.
Look at the games Pele played in. Insane.
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 8 minutes ago
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
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Pele's a fraud
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so are you
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Well yeah, I'm not ACTUALLY Hugo LLoris
aRe YoU nOt? ChIlDhOoD rUiNeD.
Ronaldo is playing in the best possible era for attacking players, these days they are protected by the rules and play on perfect pitches.
I wonder how many goals Jimmy Greaves would score if he played in today's era, instead of being deliberately kicked around on a mud pie.
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 34 minutes ago
Ronaldo is playing in the best possible era for attacking players, these days they are protected by the rules and play on perfect pitches.
I wonder how many goals Jimmy Greaves would score if he played in today's era, instead of being deliberately kicked around on a mud pie.
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Well he'd have had to give up the faggs for a start if he wanted to be up there with Ronaldo.
Even so, I don't believe Greaves would be near Ronaldo if he was around today, as hypothetical as it is to compare them.
Maybe wait until the outcome of his rape case before declaring him a legend.
Always makes me laugh when morons suggest Ronaldo or Messi are clearly the best of all time when both go hand in hand in this era
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posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Maybe wait until the outcome of his rape case before declaring him a legend.
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he should be ok as the alleged victim is a woman
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 44 minutes ago
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
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Lmao what a load of BS. Put Pele in a real league instead of a league full of Brazilian soybean farmers who didn't know the meaning of the word defend and his goal ratio would be less than 0.5 per game. He is the GFAT, greatest fraud of all time. Nowhere near Maradona and for me does not even make the top 20 of all time list.
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how on earth would you know that then
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 15 hours, 23 minutes ago
He is the exact opposite of the spurs players. An absolute winner who also shows up in the big occasions. Whereas out lot fold like a piece of paper at crunch time
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Was Barca away not a big crunch game?
What about Inter and Dortmund at Wembley? and PSV?
Selective fecking memories!
Chist! i dont understand the logic of some people. Like, how are you gonna go to the extreme, and actually state that Pele is a fraud? It beggers belief!
Ok, we’ll never know how he would play in the modern game. I have my opinion. But its wasted on someone calling him a fraud. you making out Pele was this average player. So Messi has stayed in one league, is he a fraud?
Or is it that you didnt see Pele, so just cos it didnt happen in your time, its irrelevant.
The guy was a complete baller!
The mentality was on another level.
Throwing shade on Pele, is disengenious.
So why not do it to George Best then?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 15 hours, 23 minutes ago
He is the exact opposite of the spurs players. An absolute winner who also shows up in the big occasions. Whereas out lot fold like a piece of paper at crunch time
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Was Barca away not a big crunch game?
What about Inter and Dortmund at Wembley? and PSV?
Selective fecking memories!
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Barca away... we saved by Inter completely facking up their game... we needed a win at Nou Camp to qualify without help, so I'm not having that.
Dortmund.. we were underdogs in the tie... nothing to lose... and that's actually why we are usually decent in the CL... we love being underdogs. cant deal with the expectancy.
we have lost about 10 FA Cup semi finals in a row, and collapsed in the league more times than I wish to remember... there is no way that those are overcome just because we beat inter, psv, real madrid last year...
what happened in the Juve game? after the first leg we should have finished the job and we got completely schooled in the second game.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
I have to agree Chronic. I fail to see any footballer new generation or old as good as Ronaldo. I’m in my early 30s so obviously to young to see the Pele’s and Maradonna’s but I just fail to see anyone with the level of consistency over different top leagues as Ronaldo. I don’t care what anyone says, Pele did it mostly in in the Brazilian league which is an extremely poor standard compared to the rest of Europe. Not denying his immense talent, but Ronaldo for me is GOAT. No player better in world football ever, greatest of all time.
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Not having that Don, Pele won three world cup winning medals over 12 years, and played for Santos one of the greatest ever club sides, just because they did not play in Europe did not make them a great side. The South American sides of Pele`s era pretty well cleaned up everything when they did meet European sides.
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Sandy, you can’t tell me the Brazilian league even in your era was of high standard mate sorry. I have seen the highlights of a lot of Pele’s goals and the defending is absolutely atrocious. The Brazilian league has always been pretty poor standard, I really don’t think that’s changed really mate. Santos probably were a great club side not denying that, but the standard was extremely poor throughout the league, hence the ridiculous amount of goals Pele scored. Ronaldo has done it consistently in Spain, England and now Italy. Scored more champions league goals against Europe’s elite more than anyone. Won the European cup with an average Portugal side. Countless trophies with Real Madrid. Sorry, but you can’t beat that mate.
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Sorry Don, I like you a lot mate. , but you need to brush up on your history a bit. There used to be a Interncontental Cup played between the best clubs in Europe and the best clubs in South America, it was started in 1960 (Pele`s era) and disbanded in 2004. The South American Countries filled three of the top four places on the winners rostrum over that period, and five of the top individual teams out of the top eight were South American Teams. The South Americans also had some serious club rivalry which was of a very high class.
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posted on 13/3/19
I have to agree Chronic. I fail to see any footballer new generation or old as good as Ronaldo. I’m in my early 30s so obviously to young to see the Pele’s and Maradonna’s but I just fail to see anyone with the level of consistency over different top leagues as Ronaldo. I don’t care what anyone says, Pele did it mostly in in the Brazilian league which is an extremely poor standard compared to the rest of Europe. Not denying his immense talent, but Ronaldo for me is GOAT. No player better in world football ever, greatest of all time.
posted on 13/3/19
Edward, Ronaldo will be going until he’s 39/40 no doubt mate. Incredible athlete to which a lot of the older generation don’t even compare to.
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
I have to agree Chronic. I fail to see any footballer new generation or old as good as Ronaldo. I’m in my early 30s so obviously to young to see the Pele’s and Maradonna’s but I just fail to see anyone with the level of consistency over different top leagues as Ronaldo. I don’t care what anyone says, Pele did it mostly in in the Brazilian league which is an extremely poor standard compared to the rest of Europe. Not denying his immense talent, but Ronaldo for me is GOAT. No player better in world football ever, greatest of all time.
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Not having that Don, Pele won three world cup winning medals over 12 years, and played for Santos one of the greatest ever club sides, just because they did not play in Europe did not make them a great side. The South American sides of Pele`s era pretty well cleaned up everything when they did meet European sides.
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 45 minutes ago
Ronaldo is GOAT for me... its actually not even close.
Messi is an absolutely ridiculous footballer, but Ronaldo literally has everything
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Only in the modern era mate, to just dismiss every other footballer that went before, because two players have trousered lots of goals in a two or three team division is crass to say the least.
posted on 13/3/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
I have to agree Chronic. I fail to see any footballer new generation or old as good as Ronaldo. I’m in my early 30s so obviously to young to see the Pele’s and Maradonna’s but I just fail to see anyone with the level of consistency over different top leagues as Ronaldo. I don’t care what anyone says, Pele did it mostly in in the Brazilian league which is an extremely poor standard compared to the rest of Europe. Not denying his immense talent, but Ronaldo for me is GOAT. No player better in world football ever, greatest of all time.
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Not having that Don, Pele won three world cup winning medals over 12 years, and played for Santos one of the greatest ever club sides, just because they did not play in Europe did not make them a great side. The South American sides of Pele`s era pretty well cleaned up everything when they did meet European sides.
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Sandy, you can’t tell me the Brazilian league even in your era was of high standard mate sorry. I have seen the highlights of a lot of Pele’s goals and the defending is absolutely atrocious. The Brazilian league has always been pretty poor standard, I really don’t think that’s changed really mate. Santos probably were a great club side not denying that, but the standard was extremely poor throughout the league, hence the ridiculous amount of goals Pele scored. Ronaldo has done it consistently in Spain, England and now Italy. Scored more champions league goals against Europe’s elite more than anyone. Won the European cup with an average Portugal side. Countless trophies with Real Madrid. Sorry, but you can’t beat that mate.
posted on 13/3/19
Messi and Ronaldo are on the same level and miles ahead of anyone else and have been for years.
posted on 13/3/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 45 minutes ago
Ronaldo is GOAT for me... its actually not even close.
Messi is an absolutely ridiculous footballer, but Ronaldo literally has everything
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Only in the modern era mate, to just dismiss every other footballer that went before, because two players have trousered lots of goals in a two or three team division is crass to say the least.
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That’s because no footballer in the older generation comes close to Ronaldo or Messi in terms of stats in the top leagues mate. They are complete freaks of nature. Apart from Pele ( who did it mostly in the Brazilian league) what older generation footballer has scored in the level of consistency as Ronaldo or Messi in the top leagues ? We are talking stats like 600 goals to 700 games ratio here mate.
posted on 13/3/19
Don
posted on 13/3/19
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 8 minutes ago
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
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Pele's a fraud
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 8 minutes ago
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
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Pele's a fraud
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so are you
posted on 13/3/19
YO! Put respek on Pele's name dammit!
Yes them 2 are freaks but come on, the big difference is attacking players being protected more from foolish tackles.
Look at the games Pele played in. Insane.
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 8 minutes ago
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
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Pele's a fraud
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so are you
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Well yeah, I'm not ACTUALLY Hugo LLoris
posted on 13/3/19
aRe YoU nOt? ChIlDhOoD rUiNeD.
posted on 13/3/19
Ronaldo is playing in the best possible era for attacking players, these days they are protected by the rules and play on perfect pitches.
I wonder how many goals Jimmy Greaves would score if he played in today's era, instead of being deliberately kicked around on a mud pie.
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 34 minutes ago
Ronaldo is playing in the best possible era for attacking players, these days they are protected by the rules and play on perfect pitches.
I wonder how many goals Jimmy Greaves would score if he played in today's era, instead of being deliberately kicked around on a mud pie.
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Well he'd have had to give up the faggs for a start if he wanted to be up there with Ronaldo.
Even so, I don't believe Greaves would be near Ronaldo if he was around today, as hypothetical as it is to compare them.
posted on 13/3/19
Maybe wait until the outcome of his rape case before declaring him a legend.
posted on 13/3/19
Always makes me laugh when morons suggest Ronaldo or Messi are clearly the best of all time when both go hand in hand in this era
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Hooplar (U15824)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Maybe wait until the outcome of his rape case before declaring him a legend.
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he should be ok as the alleged victim is a woman
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comment by TTliv87 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 44 minutes ago
Football has its many variables. Put Messi and Ronaldo in Pele's times and they possibly wouldn't score as many goals and visa versa with Pele in our era.
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Lmao what a load of BS. Put Pele in a real league instead of a league full of Brazilian soybean farmers who didn't know the meaning of the word defend and his goal ratio would be less than 0.5 per game. He is the GFAT, greatest fraud of all time. Nowhere near Maradona and for me does not even make the top 20 of all time list.
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how on earth would you know that then
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 15 hours, 23 minutes ago
He is the exact opposite of the spurs players. An absolute winner who also shows up in the big occasions. Whereas out lot fold like a piece of paper at crunch time
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Was Barca away not a big crunch game?
What about Inter and Dortmund at Wembley? and PSV?
Selective fecking memories!
posted on 13/3/19
Chist! i dont understand the logic of some people. Like, how are you gonna go to the extreme, and actually state that Pele is a fraud? It beggers belief!
Ok, we’ll never know how he would play in the modern game. I have my opinion. But its wasted on someone calling him a fraud. you making out Pele was this average player. So Messi has stayed in one league, is he a fraud?
Or is it that you didnt see Pele, so just cos it didnt happen in your time, its irrelevant.
The guy was a complete baller!
The mentality was on another level.
Throwing shade on Pele, is disengenious.
So why not do it to George Best then?
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 15 hours, 23 minutes ago
He is the exact opposite of the spurs players. An absolute winner who also shows up in the big occasions. Whereas out lot fold like a piece of paper at crunch time
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Was Barca away not a big crunch game?
What about Inter and Dortmund at Wembley? and PSV?
Selective fecking memories!
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Barca away... we saved by Inter completely facking up their game... we needed a win at Nou Camp to qualify without help, so I'm not having that.
Dortmund.. we were underdogs in the tie... nothing to lose... and that's actually why we are usually decent in the CL... we love being underdogs. cant deal with the expectancy.
we have lost about 10 FA Cup semi finals in a row, and collapsed in the league more times than I wish to remember... there is no way that those are overcome just because we beat inter, psv, real madrid last year...
what happened in the Juve game? after the first leg we should have finished the job and we got completely schooled in the second game.
posted on 13/3/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
I have to agree Chronic. I fail to see any footballer new generation or old as good as Ronaldo. I’m in my early 30s so obviously to young to see the Pele’s and Maradonna’s but I just fail to see anyone with the level of consistency over different top leagues as Ronaldo. I don’t care what anyone says, Pele did it mostly in in the Brazilian league which is an extremely poor standard compared to the rest of Europe. Not denying his immense talent, but Ronaldo for me is GOAT. No player better in world football ever, greatest of all time.
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Not having that Don, Pele won three world cup winning medals over 12 years, and played for Santos one of the greatest ever club sides, just because they did not play in Europe did not make them a great side. The South American sides of Pele`s era pretty well cleaned up everything when they did meet European sides.
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Sandy, you can’t tell me the Brazilian league even in your era was of high standard mate sorry. I have seen the highlights of a lot of Pele’s goals and the defending is absolutely atrocious. The Brazilian league has always been pretty poor standard, I really don’t think that’s changed really mate. Santos probably were a great club side not denying that, but the standard was extremely poor throughout the league, hence the ridiculous amount of goals Pele scored. Ronaldo has done it consistently in Spain, England and now Italy. Scored more champions league goals against Europe’s elite more than anyone. Won the European cup with an average Portugal side. Countless trophies with Real Madrid. Sorry, but you can’t beat that mate.
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Sorry Don, I like you a lot mate. , but you need to brush up on your history a bit. There used to be a Interncontental Cup played between the best clubs in Europe and the best clubs in South America, it was started in 1960 (Pele`s era) and disbanded in 2004. The South American Countries filled three of the top four places on the winners rostrum over that period, and five of the top individual teams out of the top eight were South American Teams. The South Americans also had some serious club rivalry which was of a very high class.
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