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posted on 14/3/19

Yes they've brought us stability and taken us to CL regulars, built us a training centre and a new stadium, which should be applauded, but it's taken them almost 20 years! I hope the delivering of silverware does not take them another two decades.

posted on 14/3/19

Not for me mate. They have delivered a world class stadium which is fantastic, but our trophy haul
Under their leadership considering we are now a top side is absolutely pathetic. 1 league cup in 20 years is not good enough in my opinion. They don’t back the managers properly and don’t invest in the core of the team which is what accumulates success. They don’t match the ambition they try to perceive and that is evident in the way we conduct business in the market. Time for new owners. #levyout #enicout

posted on 14/3/19

comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yes they've brought us stability and taken us to CL regulars, built us a training centre and a new stadium, which should be applauded, but it's taken them almost 20 years! I hope the delivering of silverware does not take them another two decades.
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Billy, I am sure they will make the right appointment with a new manager that can bring us the silverware we crave. Team is there mate just need a manager that can get them over the line. Poch has had five years of being a nearly man, and never will get the team over the line in my opinion. I suspect Daniel Levy is already eying up his successor. To be successful you have to be ruthless at times.

posted on 14/3/19

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 24 seconds ago
Not for me mate. They have delivered a world class stadium which is fantastic, but our trophy haul
Under their leadership considering we are now a top side is absolutely pathetic. 1 league cup in 20 years is not good enough in my opinion. They don’t back the managers properly and don’t invest in the core of the team which is what accumulates success. They don’t match the ambition they try to perceive and that is evident in the way we conduct business in the market. Time for new owners. #levyout #enicout
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Don, I suspected you may post something like that. I think we will have to agree to differ mate.

posted on 14/3/19

To be successful you need to back the manager Sandy. Not signing a single player all season is not backing the manager. Selling Dembele and not replacing him
Is lunacy and is already costing us just because Levy wanted to add a few million towards our stadium budget. At the expense of the team he has cost us even more money if we miss out on the CL, scandalous decision.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 14/3/19

Levy and ENIC have done a fantastic job overall. The club was going nowhere. no ambition, mid table and a cup run was a successful season. miles behind arsenal, miles behind Chelsea, miles behind Liverpool and miles behind man u. we were literally on par with west ham performance wise.

the club has bridged a HUGE gap on and off the pitch, through clever investment and business strategy. big marketing campaigns in SA, USA, Australia etc to drag spurs up to being a global club.

delivering sustainable growth, and now with training ground and stadium too... excellent job.

however, levy has also made mistakes... manner of dismissal of BMJ for example. lack of investment at certain times has also cost us, but we operate within a sustainable business framework, and rightly so.

personally I feel that he could have made a bit more money available for transfers, and that communication with fans could be better... but overall we are extremely lucky to have him...

without him there is no way the club would be in the position it is now, unless we had a Chelsea / man city style investment.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 14/3/19

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 39 minutes ago
Not for me mate. They have delivered a world class stadium which is fantastic, but our trophy haul
Under their leadership considering we are now a top side is absolutely pathetic. 1 league cup in 20 years is not good enough in my opinion. They don’t back the managers properly and don’t invest in the core of the team which is what accumulates success. They don’t match the ambition they try to perceive and that is evident in the way we conduct business in the market. Time for new owners. #levyout #enicout
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entitled to your opinion... but this is an absolutely ridiculous comment. you are better than that don.

posted on 14/3/19

I don’t see how I am wrong though chronic mate.

posted on 14/3/19

Chronic, Spurs are where they are because of s certsjn Mr Pochettino mate. No other manager realistically would have us where we are currently with the budget. Pochettino shouldn’t have us as top 4 regulars but he does. That’s down to our manager, nothing to do with Enic or Levy.

posted on 14/3/19

I agree that ENIC and Levy have done a fantastic job delivering the stadium and training ground, and helping us become the elite side we now are. Compare this to Randy Lerner’s leadership at Villa, who used to be on a very similar level to us.

However, you’re completely wrong about Poch and I hope deep down you know this. Without Poch’s willingness to play youth and develop players we wouldn’t even be near winning trophies. Any other manager would’ve got sick at the lack of investment years ago. Poch is a brilliant manager and an absolutely perfect fit at the club.

posted on 14/3/19

comment by WorcesterSpur (U1678)
posted 4 minutes ago
I agree that ENIC and Levy have done a fantastic job delivering the stadium and training ground, and helping us become the elite side we now are. Compare this to Randy Lerner’s leadership at Villa, who used to be on a very similar level to us.

However, you’re completely wrong about Poch and I hope deep down you know this. Without Poch’s willingness to play youth and develop players we wouldn’t even be near winning trophies. Any other manager would’ve got sick at the lack of investment years ago. Poch is a brilliant manager and an absolutely perfect fit at the club.
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comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 14/3/19

the point is that Levy and ENIC made an OUTSTANDING appointment with poch... don't forget that when it was announced, the majority of this board was up in arms...

i was skeptical but was prepared to give him time..

levy knew what was ahead and appointed a man happy to work with youth, grow steadily, and understood and supported the philosophy of the club.

outstanding appointment... the negative ones will say that its all poch not levy, when actually it was an outstanding appointment by Levy, as he fits the club perfectly.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 14/3/19

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 8 minutes ago
Chronic, Spurs are where they are because of s certsjn Mr Pochettino mate. No other manager realistically would have us where we are currently with the budget. Pochettino shouldn’t have us as top 4 regulars but he does. That’s down to our manager, nothing to do with Enic or Levy.
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so how did Poch get the spurs job?

of course its to do with Levy... he made a great appointment knowing the situation the club was in.. and picked the man that was the right fit for the club (happy to bring through players and work with minimal funds)

posted on 14/3/19

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 17 seconds ago
the point is that Levy and ENIC made an OUTSTANDING appointment with poch... don't forget that when it was announced, the majority of this board was up in arms...

i was skeptical but was prepared to give him time..

levy knew what was ahead and appointed a man happy to work with youth, grow steadily, and understood and supported the philosophy of the club.

outstanding appointment... the negative ones will say that its all poch not levy, when actually it was an outstanding appointment by Levy, as he fits the club perfectly.


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Not denying that, but the fact he is doing such an outstanding job should be even more reason to back him. Levy and these set of owners don’t back him it’s as simple as that. You even said yourself the Dembele situation ridiculous. That’s hardly helping our manager is it ?

posted on 14/3/19

I said to you Chronic about 2 years ago that I think Pochettino will eventually get fed up if he feels he can’t take us further and doesn’t feel he is getting backed. The cracks are slowly starting to appear and he’s mentioning things in the media which equate to him feeling he’s taken us as far as he can with the budget he’s on. In other words, he is crying out for help this summer to push us on.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 14/3/19

were enic and levy not at the club before poch joined and we werent consistently getting CL footy and were changing manager every couple of seasons?

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 14/3/19

Don, he can only back him if money is available to back him with !!!!!

my personal view is that we should be being a lot smarter in the loan market at the moment.. eg a dembele replacement.

poch is an intelligent man, he understands the situation the club are in....

in summer levy needs to do his best to make money available over and above what we get from sales... but i reckon there is money there and poch is extremely fussy about who he brings in and works with.. and if who he wants isn't available, he would rather nobody.

posted on 14/3/19

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
were enic and levy not at the club before poch joined and we werent consistently getting CL footy and were changing manager every couple of seasons?
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Yep. Like I said, Pochettino deserves more credit for the rise of Spurs in recent years. Our trophy haul is horrendous under Enic/Levy.

posted on 14/3/19

This is my article when Poch was appointed way back in May 2014:

Lots of other fans are revelling in the opportunity to point out how many managers Spurs have had under Levy's stewardship.

So are they right or are they guilty of having tunnel vision?

Since 2001 Spurs have had had 7 permanent managers and Poch will be the 8th.

In the same period Atletico Madrid have had 12 permanent managers, Real Madrid have had 10 permanent managers, Inter Milan are on their 12th permanent manager, Bayern Munich are on their 9th manager!

So in reality, we are no worse than some of Europe's best clubs. Liverpool have had 4 managers since 2010, it would appear that is just one of those things that happens in the football industry.

If something does not work, try something else. We might not like it but as they say ***t happens!!!!

By giving Pochettino a 5 year contract, is Levy now accepting that he has to give a manager time & realising that instant success is only there if you are a mega rich club who can outbid others to get the players you want.

Whilst we are not paupers, we are not mega rich!

United, Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Newcastle, Sunderland & Villa all had higher average home attendances than us last season. Why? Because they all have higher capacities than we do.

Being realistic we will not be able to compete at the highest level consistently until we have a bigger ground, and yes I know Newcastle & Sunderland are below us in the league.

We have this expectation, in my opinion unrealistically, that we should be in the top 4 regularly.
We have performed well over the last few seasons & probably 5th & 6th is actually a very good achievement in the circumstances.

I know a few will disagree with my summation, however we have to face facts that until we find the right manager & get the players performing to their maximum, the CL football will remain a distant target.

Do I think Pochettino is the man to lead us forward? I honestly don't know, but I am going to support him 100% and hope he gets at least 3 seasons to show what he can do.

The good news is that he is in the job immediately, whereas if we had got LVG, it would be mid July before he took over.

Funnily enough I think United panicked when they thought he was going to come to Spurs & decided to cut their losses with Moyes and at the same time hijack our deal!

I am looking forward to the new season with optimism and hope.

Optimism because I think that we will once again be playing attractive, attacking football which hopefully will bring the results we are looking for.

Hope, that Both Daniel & the fans allow Pochettino the time to create his own style & vision on the players

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 14/3/19

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 minutes ago
were enic and levy not at the club before poch joined and we werent consistently getting CL footy and were changing manager every couple of seasons?
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yeah they were.... not sure what your point is? the managers prior were consistently getting top 6 which is a big improvement on the Sugar era...

I reiterate that at the time, most fans, and the media, were all up in arms about the poch appointment.. so he was far from the obvious choice.

Redknapp was a good appointment. so was BMJ... AVB is really the only questionable one of recent times.

posted on 14/3/19

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 45 seconds ago
Don, he can only back him if money is available to back him with !!!!!

my personal view is that we should be being a lot smarter in the loan market at the moment.. eg a dembele replacement.

poch is an intelligent man, he understands the situation the club are in....

in summer levy needs to do his best to make money available over and above what we get from sales... but i reckon there is money there and poch is extremely fussy about who he brings in and works with.. and if who he wants isn't available, he would rather nobody.


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Then back him mate. We had this problem all these years ago with AVB when he wanted Moutinho and Levy couldn’t get him. We had this problem with Harry Redknapp when he was not giving the appropriate funds to push us further when we missed out on the top 4. It’s a recycling situation that’s been occurring for donkeys years mate and it’s a reason why we are not successful as a club.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 14/3/19

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
were enic and levy not at the club before poch joined and we werent consistently getting CL footy and were changing manager every couple of seasons?
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Yep. Like I said, Pochettino deserves more credit for the rise of Spurs in recent years. Our trophy haul is horrendous under Enic/Levy.
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that's fine .. on the pitch... but the club is a lot more than its on the pitch activity don..

the strides the whole club has taken has now set us up to be a sustainable elite club...

training ground / stadium / partnerships / even the spurs foundation is an excellent organization.. the whole club has moved MASSIVELY in the right direction under ENIC.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 14/3/19

just to bring some perspective....

ambition of SUGAR = extend WHL from 32k to 36k
ambition of LEVY = build a new state of the art 62k stadium which will be pretty much the best in the world, certainly on the continent, and strike a deal with the NFL for them to play some games there too....


that pretty much says it all about how the club now thinks compared to before

posted on 14/3/19

I think until the last two years Levy/ENIC have done an excellent job. However, over the last couple of years Levy has essentially become stadium project manager and forgotten about everything else.

We have been very poor in the transfer market when we really needed to invest. Our contact negotiations have been a shambles and we will be losing two of our best players in the summer for a relative pittance due to this.

I think the ENIC business model is no longer fit for purpose and I think it would be best for all parties for them to sell in the summer. A bit like Wenger at Arsenal, excellent overall, but at the end it all went a bit sour.

posted on 14/3/19



ambition of SUGAR = extend WHL from 32k to 36k
ambition of LEVY = build a new state of the art 62k stadium which will be pretty much the best in the world, certainly on the continent, and strike a deal with the NFL for them to play some games there too....


that pretty much says it all about how the club now thinks compared to before

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Plus the BEST training facility in Europe

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