It is a nonsense Don. Was brought in to apparently overrule howlers but now it I just bewildering

Gave an absolutely ridiculous penalty against Rose. I was at the game and had absolutely no idea what was going on at the time

Scrap it I say

Palmers, totally agree mate. The whole crowd at sitting there worried thinking a decision will be overturned, it’s just not right.

Also can someone tell me how the Spurs pen was any different to the handball Pool got away with tonight.
If they are saying if it hits the hand/arm, it is a pen, then Porto should have got the decision also.

Yes Steve i agree.

There are two big problems imo.

Firstly, the implementation. They are reviewing everything, and then giving an opinion on it. It's not just clear and obvious.

Secondly, the current understanding of the offside rule. Imo the PSG one and Rose's were never a penalty. The vast majority of pundits and players seem to agree.

Var is going to suck the life out of the game unless it is done correctly.

Elbowed on the floor...nope, it was a provocative nudge at most. Please do not become a sensationalist as it detracts from any merit your article attempted to have.

VAR is awful but the pen decision was correct.

How on earth was the decision a correct one? Are you new to the game because this is NOT football.
Anyways true players, Linekar, Hoddle and Rio Ferdinand are all, excuse the pun, up in arms about this utter farce...

For your security if you something suspicious:
https://youtu.be/d-pWD8OlKYA

Spurs fan tv,Lineker and Hoddle ranting and raving over a decision that had no bearing on the game anyway because the pen was saved,if that had gone Spurs way there would of been no faux outrage just shoulders shrugging and, oh you need a bit of luck

comment by RJC (U17308)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
Elbowed on the floor...nope, it was a provocative nudge at most. Please do not become a sensationalist as it detracts from any merit your article attempted to have.

VAR is awful but the pen decision was correct.
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Oh bore off, I’m not sensationalising anything. Was clear as day Fernandinho was trying to hurt Kane and used his elbow when he was on the floor, “ nudge “ and you talk about merit ? No, it was not a penalty

Not in a million years was that a penalty. And I agree with Don, VAR will ruin football. The ref could not wait to refer the actual goal to VAR, total nonsense. I thought it was to be only used for decisions that were blatantly contentious. Not every 50/50 decision.

Exactly sandy, for blatant huge decisions fair enough but every 50/50 decision is ridiculous and will ruin the game

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by RJC (U17308)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
Elbowed on the floor...nope, it was a provocative nudge at most. Please do not become a sensationalist as it detracts from any merit your article attempted to have.

VAR is awful but the pen decision was correct.
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Oh bore off, I’m not sensationalising anything. Was clear as day Fernandinho was trying to hurt Kane and used his elbow when he was on the floor, “ nudge “and you talk about merit ? No, it was not a penalty
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Haha did you see this Rose on Fernandinho thing? https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/bbdmv3/danny_rose_stiffarms_fernandinho_to_the_ground/

comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
Also can someone tell me how the Spurs pen was any different to the handball Pool got away with tonight.
If they are saying if it hits the hand/arm, it is a pen, then Porto should have got the decision also.
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Yep, but Pool and United are UEFA darlings so will get `the benefit of doubt` with decisions like this.

VAR will be good to clear up matter of fact decisions like offsides, but we will still see referees giving their favourite clubs the benefit of doubt with matter of opinion decisions.

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Rose made his body big using his hand and caught out
Soft pen but can why it was given.

Swings and roundabouts.

Would of been a huge benefit to us at Cardiff when Chelseas equalising goal was way off side but last nights decision was ridiculous.

If that spot kick is going to be the way of things then next season will be a penalty fest.

Well played by the way
Not many teams have kept a clean sheet versus city this season.

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Agree OP, VAR is well on its way to bringing massive negatives to the game - far bigger than anything positive it contributes.

The blame lies squarely with the law makers at this stage.

I think it's absolutely fair to say that:

a) They don't understand the handball law properly and they have completely disregarded any common sense and practical interpretation of a player's movement.

b) They have completed ignored their own ruling for VAR, that being it is supposed to be for clear and obvious errors, not re-reffing a game after the event.

There will be people who try to justify that penalty decision but aside from the referee doing what he has been told, there's no real justification for it.

Quite simply, a player cannot dive into block a shot, make a tackle etc. without their arms being away from their body. You need only watch a single football match to see enough challenges that prove that.

Slow anything down and it can be made to look intentional - it's completely flawed as a process.


On the 'elbow', that's not a red card for me. Barely a nudge with his arm than anything - wouldn't qualify for violent conduct imo.

PS - well played Spurs and congrats on the result. A win and clean sheet is as good as you could have hoped for, should be a cracker of a second leg.

Penalty for me and VAR got it right. Rose moved his arm towards the ball, blocking it with his arm. We've seen already that these are penalties with the use of VAR. PSG, Otamendi etc. Referees have obviously been told what to look for. This guy is one of the best too. I think they know the rules better than you Winston.

Not surprising that you're on the other side of this TOOR.

We established a long, long time ago that you don't actually understand the laws.

Rose set to replace Lloris in goal after his incredible save last night.

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comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by TOORPalaceFan (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
Penalty for me and VAR got it right. Rose moved his arm towards the ball, blocking it with his arm. We've seen already that these are penalties with the use of VAR. PSG, Otamendi etc. Referees have obviously been told what to look for. This guy is one of the best too. I think they know the rules better than you Winston.
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Rose moved his whole body toward the ball in an attempt to block a shot that was struck about 3 yards from him. Should he have left his arms behind? Kept them at his side like a penguin? Poor decision.
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Ace, you need to know that TOOR thinks the handball law is binary in that respect i.e. if the hand moves towards the ball then it's deemed as deliberate.

He is wrong of course, but Melton and I spent hours trying to explain why and it was lost on him.