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posted on 22/4/19

Oh and:

Distribution whilst under pressure.

Important one that one.

COYR

posted on 22/4/19

How many headers did Bryson win?

What is more important that usually headers from long clearances are made under pressure and which side has the ball after the header is a lottery.

Bennett more than once anticipated where the ball was going to land and where our players were so we ended up with the ball. Keeping possession in the oppositions half is useful for both defence and attack. I am also certain he won more than two headers.

posted on 22/4/19

Who mentioned Bryson, and his headers?

Bennett managed to judge the flight of the ball, I agree on 2 occasions. I acknowledged that at the time to Backo.

I don’t mind him, at least he has some physicality and upper body strength...

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted on 22/4/19

I guess that result is justice for when we were 2-0 at 90 minutes and QPR scored two goals in injury time, (Colin was very happy at the time)?

I felt sick after that game.

posted on 22/4/19

Bennett is playing a league higher than
He should be. I would have taken him off instead of TL today

comment by Backo (U1486)

posted on 22/4/19

That injury time today will still be talked about in many years time. Just amazing. The atmosphere...the desire from the players...all what we go for. We snatched back control of our destiny. It was truly goosebumps. Now onto Bristol. Just got a ticket. Sold out now. Got to be there. Just got to be!!! SUPER RAMS and SUPER FRANK!!!!

posted on 22/4/19

Can’t make Bristol but my dad and lad going.
I will be going to Swansea.
3 massive games now

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted on 22/4/19

Can the bell-ends at Sky/BT Sport move the date and/or KO time for the Brizzle game at this late stage?

posted on 22/4/19

The games have already been selected for TV this weekend

comment by Backo (U1486)

posted on 22/4/19

Yeah tv games already picked. Sky have messed up not having Bristol City v Derby. That injury time tho...Derby players and fans together. Amazing stuff.

posted on 22/4/19

comment by GRIFF....fair price for football fans...not alot to ask for? (U3408)
posted 57 minutes ago
Bennett is playing a league higher than
He should be. I would have taken him off instead of TL today
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TL played his worst game ever today. Bennett didn’t do very well but was a lot better than TL.

I hope Frank drops him for next week, nearly everyone leaving was saying what rubbish he was, so it isn’t just me!

posted on 22/4/19

I saw TL play worse than today when we played away at Blackburn

posted on 22/4/19

Would you like fries with that, QPR?
I never forget xx

posted on 22/4/19

Hopefully the injury time glory gives us a shot of adrenaline and confidence for the run in. Confidence trumps a lot of other factors.

I can't see it myself (sorry to assume the role of Debbie Downer but someone has to); here's hoping I have egg on my face as we snatch a 1-0 against Brizzle, ring in the changes and demolish Swansea, rest George Thorne for the West Brom game, run rings around Bielsa's out of puff, can't press anymore Leeds side, destroy Villa 5-0 in the final as Keogh, man of the match Tom Huddlestone and match winner Duane Holmes dance around Wembley with the playoff trophy, though.

posted on 22/4/19

Lawrence has had so many bad games, I've lost track of how bad and who against. Today was just another poor performance.
Craig Ramage says Lawrence is low on confidence and needs a goal. I just can't share that view. Consistently poor.

posted on 22/4/19

I think he looks okay when given space and needs players around him to create that, when they don't he struggles to make an impact on his own.

I am hopeful.

posted on 23/4/19

Lawrence runs at the defence which is his job. Defenders hate that. It is just that he very rarely goes past them now. Think he beat his man once yesterday.

He did set up a goal for himself against Rotherham, only to be pulled down so Waghorn got the glory of the penalty. Maybe that could have changed his season.

posted on 23/4/19

Between Ince and Lawrence who would you select in your team?

( The option of 'neither' is not available to you!)

I'd have to go with Ince.

By the way what's happened to Dutch dude? Has Anya kidnapped him?

posted on 23/4/19

Ince all day long.

posted on 23/4/19

I am going with neither despite Desicau's rules. Apart from his one season with Blackpool, Ince, despite his talent has never been part of a successful team. Oddly Rowett dropped him at Derby and then signed him at Stoke.

Lawrence has flattered to deceive too many times. His bad games out number his good games by a high percentage now. There comes a time when a player has been given enough chances to show his value and I think that time is up for Lawrence. Maybe he can have a Vydra like season and go from hardly scoring to out scoring everyone in the division. He needs to do something by the start of next season.

What about a Stephen Pearson type of season ending. Do very little all season then score the winner at Wembley.

posted on 23/4/19

That’s beyond the pale Spart, you cannot diss Stephen Pearson. He was a stalwart in an average team and achieved cult status with his powerful runs into the opposition box, only stopping to metaphorically scratch his head while deciding what to do next.

posted on 23/4/19

comment by ViewFromTheStudent (U1581)
posted 37 minutes ago
That’s beyond the pale Spart, you cannot diss Stephen Pearson. He was a stalwart in an average team and achieved cult status with his powerful runs into the opposition box, only stopping to metaphorically scratch his head while deciding what to do next.
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LOL at that last part.

I have to agree. Stephen Pearson contributed much more than Lawrence has in his time here.


Lawrence was seen as a replacement for Ince but it looks like a transfer that's resulted in us going backwards. Ince at least offered goals ( both sides of the pitch, if you take into consideration his failure to track back)

2014-2015 - 11 goals
2015 - 2016 12 goals
2016 - 2017 14 goals


Tom Lawrence

2017 - 2018 6 goals
2018 - 2019 4 goals

I really hoped he'd kick on this season but it sounds like he's been an incredibly frustrating player. Happy to be proven wrong here as I'd love for him to be a success.

Who would we consider to be the last 'successful' winger at Derby. I think back to Tommy Smith who I thought was a great signing (free) and did well, Commons was very much hot and cold but did offer some great moments.

posted on 23/4/19

The criticisms of Lawrence haven’t always been fair but I thought he was crap yesterday and that his good games are too infrequent to make up for the poor ones. Next season we have Luke Thomas coming back and Mitchell-Lawson coming through. Lawrence is a luxury player rather than one to build a team around. He ought to fetch a few quid and that could be used to strengthen elsewhere. If it was a choice of selling him or Bogle I would want to keep the latter every day of the week as he has a chance of increasing in value to the team and as an asset, while Lawrence is what he is and won’t get any better. With the pair I mentioned plus Holmes, Bennett and Zoon we have plenty of wide players to choose from. Even if we don’t get a new winger in the summer I don’t think we would miss him too much.

posted on 23/4/19



I didnt particularly like Ince, mainly because of his demeanor, but his superior scoring record gives him the edge.

I was a big supporter of TL following his transfer, mainly based on reports I got from Ipswich fans, who were more than sorry to lose him. 

So, just a final thought in his defence. We often see that playing a player in his preferred position can lead to a massive improvement in performance, perceived or otherwise. There are several examples without having to think too deeply, Weimann now he's at BC, Waggy, now he's in his best position of CF and Wilson playing in CMF, rather than out wide, spring immediately to mind.

Without suggesting that we try and shoehorn him into a new role, arguably, Tom's best, and most productive times, have come when he's had a freer, more central role rather than being a designated winger. He has the talent, more so than Bennett, but has far from excelled in this role. That said, I'd have him there any day of the week, rather than Zoon. 

I like the lad and I trust in Frank, but I recognise that he's had his fair share of chances and I wouldn't be surprised to see him replaced next season.

posted on 23/4/19

Good points Ang. He’s played best in that position for Wales too. He doesn’t like the physical stuff and when you play wide then you get a bit of that and you have to cope with it. But even centrally you have to protect the ball from time to time or at least win the foul. He gets muscled off it very easily. Cash in for me.

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