comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - #Bercow4PM (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
Samir is spot on.
Wenger won away once last season in 2018. And people are wondering why our away form is poor
Emery has to take a lot of blame and yeah perhaps we haven't improved, but don't act like the issues didn't stem from Wengers mismanagement during his decline.
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Fack me Wenger last season was shocking but should that be the barometer to judge Emery with?
Talk about lowering expectations
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Considering it’s still mainly his team yes
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - #Bercow4PM (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
Samir is spot on.
Wenger won away once last season in 2018. And people are wondering why our away form is poor
Emery has to take a lot of blame and yeah perhaps we haven't improved, but don't act like the issues didn't stem from Wengers mismanagement during his decline.
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Fack me Wenger last season was shocking but should that be the barometer to judge Emery with?
Talk about lowering expectations
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Castor, please stop being a reactive, emotional wuss and think with a clear mind.
People will judge Emery based on how we did the previous season because it was the most recent position we finished in before he took over. It is completely logical.
I am not happy with Emery's sequence of bizarre decisions, but we have still done better than many of us expected at the start of the season.
Maybe I am delusional, maybe it is blind faith, but I am refusing to give up on our Europa League hopes just yet. I still think we can win it.
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - #Bercow4PM (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
Samir is spot on.
Wenger won away once last season in 2018. And people are wondering why our away form is poor
Emery has to take a lot of blame and yeah perhaps we haven't improved, but don't act like the issues didn't stem from Wengers mismanagement during his decline.
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Fack me Wenger last season was shocking but should that be the barometer to judge Emery with?
Talk about lowering expectations
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Emery is using 80% of Wenger's squad players. You must be incredible naive if you think that isn't a factor.
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 Emery.....if I speak about him, I'm in trouble 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 17 minutes ago
Seebs? Did you watch the game? Did you see how we were setup? Are you feckin telling me that was a positive tactic by the manager? Or should I remind you of the back 5 at home to Palace?
You can blame Wenger as much as you want and rightly so. But don't feckin tell me Emery has bawls. We were in 3rd position 2 weeks ago. That line up at Palace was the beginning of the end.
One more thing before I go, Wenger got sacked (again rightly so) for results like this.
And it was also clear from beginning of April that he put all his eggs into the Europa so the total points tally doesn't tell the whole story
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You're going round in circles here. No one is saying Emery is absolved of any responsibilities for the teams away performance. But you're refusing to accept that his decisions are based on the quality of players at his disposal.
I think it's well documented Emery's favoured formation is 4231. He can't play that because we lack the defensive ability and the wingers. His actions are mostly dictated by the quality at his disposal.
I hate the extremes in which us Goobers love to camp ourselves in. Those that blame only Emery and those that blame the team left by the old manager. Myself, i would say its 70/30 of the squad quality to managerial issues.
How much longer are we going to be talking about Wenger after every loss. In 2 seasons time we will lost likely have 50% Wenger players. Are we doomed for years to come to praise Emery for wins and blame Wenger for losses? When are we allowed to start blamimg Emery?
Picks a shocking team vs Palace and we lose at home even Wenger last season at home we barely lost.. Last year we beat Palace 4-1 at home with pretty much the same players for arsenal and Palace.... but let's still blame Wenger 😂
Literally no-one is saying Emery is exempt from criticism. But people with half a brain can comprehend that we shouldn't be going over the top with our criticism of him, something which you don't understand.
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 3 minutes ago
How much longer are we going to be talking about Wenger after every loss. In 2 seasons time we will lost likely have 50% Wenger players. Are we doomed for years to come to praise Emery for wins and blame Wenger for losses? When are we allowed to start blamimg Emery?
Picks a shocking team vs Palace and we lose at home even Wenger last season at home we barely lost.. Last year we beat Palace 4-1 at home with pretty much the same players for arsenal and Palace.... but let's still blame Wenger 😂
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More utter triiipe comments from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Keep your mouth shut, compare last seasons top 6 head to head table with this years record, realise your logic in comparing individual games is pathetic, then sit yourself down.
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 minute ago
I think people are underestimating the mess left behind by the hapless Wenger, Wenger didn't get into the top 4 last season or the season before that.
In fact we have been on an overall incremental decline for a decade under Wenger.
That wasn't all Wenger's fault to begin with because the stadium starved us of cash - but to expect ANY Manager to sort out his continual balls-up's in recruitment and weak team mentality in one season is unrealistic.
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We were in decline in Wenger last two seasons. Prior to that he kept us in top 4 and won 3 trophies
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We've been in decline for a looooong time, and yes, we won 3 domestic trophies, but never the big stuff. In the last decade+ we haven't been in contention to win the Premiership or Champions League at all (not even when everybody else collapsed and Leicester were still TEN points clear of us).
As for our defence, who would you bring in ?
Holding is crocked, Bellerin is crocked, Mavropanos is clearly not up to speed after his layoff and is inexperienced to boot, Lichsteiner is poor, Mustafi is sh!t, Koscielny is ageing, taped up and can only play so many games, Sokratis, Monreal & Kolasinac are Okayish. That's it.
You can argue that Emery might have done a little better with his organisation and selection, but I'm unconvinced anybody else would have done that much better, it is not easy with those kind of resources.
If Emery cannot do better next year then fair enough, we have to look at it again, but with no money it is unfair to judge him so soon, especially when the hapless Wenger had so long and spent so much money in his latter years and f**ked the team up so badly that Emery is starting with this lot...
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
Looking forward to Emery bringing in the likes of Krychowiak and Jesé to the club, to go with the likes of Denis Suarez.
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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No need to apologise, you are entitled to your opinion, after all, we don't think you have a clue either
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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No need to apologise, you are entitled to your opinion, after all, we don't think you have a clue either
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Speak for yourself. In any case if you think Emery is the manager to take Arsenal forward? Good luck and like the post above yours suggest, have fun with players like Dennis Suarez and Guendozi, who are Emery's buys.
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 minute ago
I think people are underestimating the mess left behind by the hapless Wenger, Wenger didn't get into the top 4 last season or the season before that.
In fact we have been on an overall incremental decline for a decade under Wenger.
That wasn't all Wenger's fault to begin with because the stadium starved us of cash - but to expect ANY Manager to sort out his continual balls-up's in recruitment and weak team mentality in one season is unrealistic.
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We were in decline in Wenger last two seasons. Prior to that he kept us in top 4 and won 3 trophies
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We've been in decline for a looooong time, and yes, we won 3 domestic trophies, but never the big stuff. In the last decade+ we haven't been in contention to win the Premiership or Champions League at all (not even when everybody else collapsed and Leicester were still TEN points clear of us).
As for our defence, who would you bring in ?
Holding is crocked, Bellerin is crocked, Mavropanos is clearly not up to speed after his layoff and is inexperienced to boot, Lichsteiner is poor, Mustafi is sh!t, Koscielny is ageing, taped up and can only play so many games, Sokratis, Monreal & Kolasinac are Okayish. That's it.
You can argue that Emery might have done a little better with his organisation and selection, but I'm unconvinced anybody else would have done that much better, it is not easy with those kind of resources.
If Emery cannot do better next year then fair enough, we have to look at it again, but with no money it is unfair to judge him so soon, especially when the hapless Wenger had so long and spent so much money in his latter years and f**ked the team up so badly that Emery is starting with this lot...
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This 👏🏻
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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sorry but you don’t have a clue you can’t turn around such a pathetic mentality and bunch of players as left by Wenger within one season especially with the budget we had
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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No need to apologise, you are entitled to your opinion, after all, we don't think you have a clue either
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Speak for yourself. In any case if you think Emery is the manager to take Arsenal forward? Good luck and like the post above yours suggest, have fun with players like Dennis Suarez and Guendozi, who are Emery's buys.
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Guendouzi Souza only turned 20 a few weeks ago far to early to judge yet I grant Suarez was an odd signing but we could only make loan signings in Jan doesn’t look like Emery will get the money to fix it in the summer either there is only so much a manager can do
*Guendouzi not Guendouzi Souza
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 minute ago
I think people are underestimating the mess left behind by the hapless Wenger, Wenger didn't get into the top 4 last season or the season before that.
In fact we have been on an overall incremental decline for a decade under Wenger.
That wasn't all Wenger's fault to begin with because the stadium starved us of cash - but to expect ANY Manager to sort out his continual balls-up's in recruitment and weak team mentality in one season is unrealistic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We were in decline in Wenger last two seasons. Prior to that he kept us in top 4 and won 3 trophies
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We've been in decline for a looooong time, and yes, we won 3 domestic trophies, but never the big stuff. In the last decade+ we haven't been in contention to win the Premiership or Champions League at all (not even when everybody else collapsed and Leicester were still TEN points clear of us).
As for our defence, who would you bring in ?
Holding is crocked, Bellerin is crocked, Mavropanos is clearly not up to speed after his layoff and is inexperienced to boot, Lichsteiner is poor, Mustafi is sh!t, Koscielny is ageing, taped up and can only play so many games, Sokratis, Monreal & Kolasinac are Okayish. That's it.
You can argue that Emery might have done a little better with his organisation and selection, but I'm unconvinced anybody else would have done that much better, it is not easy with those kind of resources.
If Emery cannot do better next year then fair enough, we have to look at it again, but with no money it is unfair to judge him so soon, especially when the hapless Wenger had so long and spent so much money in his latter years and f**ked the team up so badly that Emery is starting with this lot...
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This 👏🏻
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With the rumoured £45m budget it’s going to be hard to do if he can steady the ship and lay down some foundations then i’ll happy enough
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - #Bercow4PM (U1410)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 3 minutes ago
How much longer are we going to be talking about Wenger after every loss. In 2 seasons time we will lost likely have 50% Wenger players. Are we doomed for years to come to praise Emery for wins and blame Wenger for losses? When are we allowed to start blamimg Emery?
Picks a shocking team vs Palace and we lose at home even Wenger last season at home we barely lost.. Last year we beat Palace 4-1 at home with pretty much the same players for arsenal and Palace.... but let's still blame Wenger 😂
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More utter triiipe comments from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Keep your mouth shut, compare last seasons top 6 head to head table with this years record, realise your logic in comparing individual games is pathetic, then sit yourself down.
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You fecking moron, criticising using comparisons then choose to use another to empathise your point.
The funny thing was it was AKB who were always accused of being deluded and changing the narrative to fit, and now it's all you do.
This is the comparative delusion an AKB could offer if they were that way inclined.
Every big win we've had this season, Fulham at home, Leicester at home spurs Chelsea united etc was down to players retaining Wengers style of playing . Players played with freedom and creativity and scored beautiful team goals we were used to seeing under Wenger. When we have lost 3 games in a row towards the end of the season it's because Emery has coached the creativity out of them. We barely have any shots on target and the football is turgid. Every win is because of Wenger every loss is because of Emery
Hear how deluded that sounds.... Yeah that's what I hear when you blame Wenger when we lose at home to Palace
Emery is to blame for the pathetic team he selected for Palace. That game has effectively cost us top 4 in the league.
We already have a shocking first team but he selected elneny, Guendouzi, Mavro and Jenkinson.
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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sorry but you don’t have a clue you can’t turn around such a pathetic mentality and bunch of players as left by Wenger within one season especially with the budget we had
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If you don't know that the fact our away form is relegation standard whereas the same team by and large does well in patches, isn't down to the manager and his selections or tactics, shows how much you know.
Not even going to read Gobsheitefathers response. Full of pretentious made up bullshiete to suit his agenda. You're a facking idiot. You talk from your arrrse and naturally it's sheite and hot fart that spews out.
Anyway, good to see that we are all in agreement
At the end of the day we are all Arsenal supporters that are disappointed with where our club is, whatever view you have I think we all know it will be tough to fix...
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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sorry but you don’t have a clue you can’t turn around such a pathetic mentality and bunch of players as left by Wenger within one season especially with the budget we had
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If you don't know that the fact our away form is relegation standard whereas the same team by and large does well in patches, isn't down to the manager and his selections or tactics, shows how much you know.
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Its not a case him not knowing. Its just pure delusion. When it takes over your mind anything can seem possible. In his simplistic banal world Wenger left us with a team on a par with Huddersfield so it's expected our form in last 3 games matches them. Anything else is a miracle
Don't know why I enter into discussion with such idiotic points of view. I feel the stupidity oozing out of every one of serials orifices
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Away form blame lies with Emery
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posted on 28/4/19
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - #Bercow4PM (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
Samir is spot on.
Wenger won away once last season in 2018. And people are wondering why our away form is poor
Emery has to take a lot of blame and yeah perhaps we haven't improved, but don't act like the issues didn't stem from Wengers mismanagement during his decline.
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Fack me Wenger last season was shocking but should that be the barometer to judge Emery with?
Talk about lowering expectations
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Considering it’s still mainly his team yes
posted on 28/4/19
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - #Bercow4PM (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
Samir is spot on.
Wenger won away once last season in 2018. And people are wondering why our away form is poor
Emery has to take a lot of blame and yeah perhaps we haven't improved, but don't act like the issues didn't stem from Wengers mismanagement during his decline.
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Fack me Wenger last season was shocking but should that be the barometer to judge Emery with?
Talk about lowering expectations
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Castor, please stop being a reactive, emotional wuss and think with a clear mind.
People will judge Emery based on how we did the previous season because it was the most recent position we finished in before he took over. It is completely logical.
I am not happy with Emery's sequence of bizarre decisions, but we have still done better than many of us expected at the start of the season.
Maybe I am delusional, maybe it is blind faith, but I am refusing to give up on our Europa League hopes just yet. I still think we can win it.
posted on 28/4/19
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - #Bercow4PM (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
Samir is spot on.
Wenger won away once last season in 2018. And people are wondering why our away form is poor
Emery has to take a lot of blame and yeah perhaps we haven't improved, but don't act like the issues didn't stem from Wengers mismanagement during his decline.
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Fack me Wenger last season was shocking but should that be the barometer to judge Emery with?
Talk about lowering expectations
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Emery is using 80% of Wenger's squad players. You must be incredible naive if you think that isn't a factor.
posted on 28/4/19
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 Emery.....if I speak about him, I'm in trouble 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 17 minutes ago
Seebs? Did you watch the game? Did you see how we were setup? Are you feckin telling me that was a positive tactic by the manager? Or should I remind you of the back 5 at home to Palace?
You can blame Wenger as much as you want and rightly so. But don't feckin tell me Emery has bawls. We were in 3rd position 2 weeks ago. That line up at Palace was the beginning of the end.
One more thing before I go, Wenger got sacked (again rightly so) for results like this.
And it was also clear from beginning of April that he put all his eggs into the Europa so the total points tally doesn't tell the whole story
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You're going round in circles here. No one is saying Emery is absolved of any responsibilities for the teams away performance. But you're refusing to accept that his decisions are based on the quality of players at his disposal.
I think it's well documented Emery's favoured formation is 4231. He can't play that because we lack the defensive ability and the wingers. His actions are mostly dictated by the quality at his disposal.
I hate the extremes in which us Goobers love to camp ourselves in. Those that blame only Emery and those that blame the team left by the old manager. Myself, i would say its 70/30 of the squad quality to managerial issues.
posted on 28/4/19
How much longer are we going to be talking about Wenger after every loss. In 2 seasons time we will lost likely have 50% Wenger players. Are we doomed for years to come to praise Emery for wins and blame Wenger for losses? When are we allowed to start blamimg Emery?
Picks a shocking team vs Palace and we lose at home even Wenger last season at home we barely lost.. Last year we beat Palace 4-1 at home with pretty much the same players for arsenal and Palace.... but let's still blame Wenger 😂
posted on 28/4/19
Literally no-one is saying Emery is exempt from criticism. But people with half a brain can comprehend that we shouldn't be going over the top with our criticism of him, something which you don't understand.
posted on 28/4/19
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
posted on 28/4/19
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 3 minutes ago
How much longer are we going to be talking about Wenger after every loss. In 2 seasons time we will lost likely have 50% Wenger players. Are we doomed for years to come to praise Emery for wins and blame Wenger for losses? When are we allowed to start blamimg Emery?
Picks a shocking team vs Palace and we lose at home even Wenger last season at home we barely lost.. Last year we beat Palace 4-1 at home with pretty much the same players for arsenal and Palace.... but let's still blame Wenger 😂
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More utter triiipe comments from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Keep your mouth shut, compare last seasons top 6 head to head table with this years record, realise your logic in comparing individual games is pathetic, then sit yourself down.
posted on 28/4/19
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 minute ago
I think people are underestimating the mess left behind by the hapless Wenger, Wenger didn't get into the top 4 last season or the season before that.
In fact we have been on an overall incremental decline for a decade under Wenger.
That wasn't all Wenger's fault to begin with because the stadium starved us of cash - but to expect ANY Manager to sort out his continual balls-up's in recruitment and weak team mentality in one season is unrealistic.
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We were in decline in Wenger last two seasons. Prior to that he kept us in top 4 and won 3 trophies
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We've been in decline for a looooong time, and yes, we won 3 domestic trophies, but never the big stuff. In the last decade+ we haven't been in contention to win the Premiership or Champions League at all (not even when everybody else collapsed and Leicester were still TEN points clear of us).
As for our defence, who would you bring in ?
Holding is crocked, Bellerin is crocked, Mavropanos is clearly not up to speed after his layoff and is inexperienced to boot, Lichsteiner is poor, Mustafi is sh!t, Koscielny is ageing, taped up and can only play so many games, Sokratis, Monreal & Kolasinac are Okayish. That's it.
You can argue that Emery might have done a little better with his organisation and selection, but I'm unconvinced anybody else would have done that much better, it is not easy with those kind of resources.
If Emery cannot do better next year then fair enough, we have to look at it again, but with no money it is unfair to judge him so soon, especially when the hapless Wenger had so long and spent so much money in his latter years and f**ked the team up so badly that Emery is starting with this lot...
posted on 28/4/19
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
posted on 28/4/19
Looking forward to Emery bringing in the likes of Krychowiak and Jesé to the club, to go with the likes of Denis Suarez.
posted on 28/4/19
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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No need to apologise, you are entitled to your opinion, after all, we don't think you have a clue either
posted on 28/4/19
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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No need to apologise, you are entitled to your opinion, after all, we don't think you have a clue either
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Speak for yourself. In any case if you think Emery is the manager to take Arsenal forward? Good luck and like the post above yours suggest, have fun with players like Dennis Suarez and Guendozi, who are Emery's buys.
posted on 28/4/19
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 minute ago
I think people are underestimating the mess left behind by the hapless Wenger, Wenger didn't get into the top 4 last season or the season before that.
In fact we have been on an overall incremental decline for a decade under Wenger.
That wasn't all Wenger's fault to begin with because the stadium starved us of cash - but to expect ANY Manager to sort out his continual balls-up's in recruitment and weak team mentality in one season is unrealistic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We were in decline in Wenger last two seasons. Prior to that he kept us in top 4 and won 3 trophies
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We've been in decline for a looooong time, and yes, we won 3 domestic trophies, but never the big stuff. In the last decade+ we haven't been in contention to win the Premiership or Champions League at all (not even when everybody else collapsed and Leicester were still TEN points clear of us).
As for our defence, who would you bring in ?
Holding is crocked, Bellerin is crocked, Mavropanos is clearly not up to speed after his layoff and is inexperienced to boot, Lichsteiner is poor, Mustafi is sh!t, Koscielny is ageing, taped up and can only play so many games, Sokratis, Monreal & Kolasinac are Okayish. That's it.
You can argue that Emery might have done a little better with his organisation and selection, but I'm unconvinced anybody else would have done that much better, it is not easy with those kind of resources.
If Emery cannot do better next year then fair enough, we have to look at it again, but with no money it is unfair to judge him so soon, especially when the hapless Wenger had so long and spent so much money in his latter years and f**ked the team up so badly that Emery is starting with this lot...
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posted on 28/4/19
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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sorry but you don’t have a clue you can’t turn around such a pathetic mentality and bunch of players as left by Wenger within one season especially with the budget we had
posted on 28/4/19
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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No need to apologise, you are entitled to your opinion, after all, we don't think you have a clue either
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Speak for yourself. In any case if you think Emery is the manager to take Arsenal forward? Good luck and like the post above yours suggest, have fun with players like Dennis Suarez and Guendozi, who are Emery's buys.
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Guendouzi Souza only turned 20 a few weeks ago far to early to judge yet I grant Suarez was an odd signing but we could only make loan signings in Jan doesn’t look like Emery will get the money to fix it in the summer either there is only so much a manager can do
posted on 28/4/19
*Guendouzi not Guendouzi Souza
posted on 28/4/19
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 minute ago
I think people are underestimating the mess left behind by the hapless Wenger, Wenger didn't get into the top 4 last season or the season before that.
In fact we have been on an overall incremental decline for a decade under Wenger.
That wasn't all Wenger's fault to begin with because the stadium starved us of cash - but to expect ANY Manager to sort out his continual balls-up's in recruitment and weak team mentality in one season is unrealistic.
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We were in decline in Wenger last two seasons. Prior to that he kept us in top 4 and won 3 trophies
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We've been in decline for a looooong time, and yes, we won 3 domestic trophies, but never the big stuff. In the last decade+ we haven't been in contention to win the Premiership or Champions League at all (not even when everybody else collapsed and Leicester were still TEN points clear of us).
As for our defence, who would you bring in ?
Holding is crocked, Bellerin is crocked, Mavropanos is clearly not up to speed after his layoff and is inexperienced to boot, Lichsteiner is poor, Mustafi is sh!t, Koscielny is ageing, taped up and can only play so many games, Sokratis, Monreal & Kolasinac are Okayish. That's it.
You can argue that Emery might have done a little better with his organisation and selection, but I'm unconvinced anybody else would have done that much better, it is not easy with those kind of resources.
If Emery cannot do better next year then fair enough, we have to look at it again, but with no money it is unfair to judge him so soon, especially when the hapless Wenger had so long and spent so much money in his latter years and f**ked the team up so badly that Emery is starting with this lot...
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With the rumoured £45m budget it’s going to be hard to do if he can steady the ship and lay down some foundations then i’ll happy enough
posted on 28/4/19
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - #Bercow4PM (U1410)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 3 minutes ago
How much longer are we going to be talking about Wenger after every loss. In 2 seasons time we will lost likely have 50% Wenger players. Are we doomed for years to come to praise Emery for wins and blame Wenger for losses? When are we allowed to start blamimg Emery?
Picks a shocking team vs Palace and we lose at home even Wenger last season at home we barely lost.. Last year we beat Palace 4-1 at home with pretty much the same players for arsenal and Palace.... but let's still blame Wenger 😂
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More utter triiipe comments from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Keep your mouth shut, compare last seasons top 6 head to head table with this years record, realise your logic in comparing individual games is pathetic, then sit yourself down.
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You fecking moron, criticising using comparisons then choose to use another to empathise your point.
The funny thing was it was AKB who were always accused of being deluded and changing the narrative to fit, and now it's all you do.
This is the comparative delusion an AKB could offer if they were that way inclined.
Every big win we've had this season, Fulham at home, Leicester at home spurs Chelsea united etc was down to players retaining Wengers style of playing . Players played with freedom and creativity and scored beautiful team goals we were used to seeing under Wenger. When we have lost 3 games in a row towards the end of the season it's because Emery has coached the creativity out of them. We barely have any shots on target and the football is turgid. Every win is because of Wenger every loss is because of Emery
Hear how deluded that sounds.... Yeah that's what I hear when you blame Wenger when we lose at home to Palace
posted on 28/4/19
Emery is to blame for the pathetic team he selected for Palace. That game has effectively cost us top 4 in the league.
We already have a shocking first team but he selected elneny, Guendouzi, Mavro and Jenkinson.
posted on 28/4/19
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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sorry but you don’t have a clue you can’t turn around such a pathetic mentality and bunch of players as left by Wenger within one season especially with the budget we had
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If you don't know that the fact our away form is relegation standard whereas the same team by and large does well in patches, isn't down to the manager and his selections or tactics, shows how much you know.
posted on 28/4/19
Not even going to read Gobsheitefathers response. Full of pretentious made up bullshiete to suit his agenda. You're a facking idiot. You talk from your arrrse and naturally it's sheite and hot fart that spews out.
posted on 28/4/19
**is down to the manager
posted on 28/4/19
Anyway, good to see that we are all in agreement
At the end of the day we are all Arsenal supporters that are disappointed with where our club is, whatever view you have I think we all know it will be tough to fix...
posted on 28/4/19
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Dux (U6467)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
My main problems with Emery is he doesn't have any charisma and doesn't look to have a clear philosophy, he's a very pragmatic and functional manager, a short term appointment to get us back in the CL asap.
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This.
We should start talking to Arteta about the job long term. Those that think Wenger is still to blame for Arsenal's woes don't have a clue. Sorry.
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sorry but you don’t have a clue you can’t turn around such a pathetic mentality and bunch of players as left by Wenger within one season especially with the budget we had
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If you don't know that the fact our away form is relegation standard whereas the same team by and large does well in patches, isn't down to the manager and his selections or tactics, shows how much you know.
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Its not a case him not knowing. Its just pure delusion. When it takes over your mind anything can seem possible. In his simplistic banal world Wenger left us with a team on a par with Huddersfield so it's expected our form in last 3 games matches them. Anything else is a miracle
Don't know why I enter into discussion with such idiotic points of view. I feel the stupidity oozing out of every one of serials orifices
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