Nothing to do with the thread but just discovered George Ezra, is he big in the UK, we don't here him here. It's the kind of music I like, he's a talent.
Best get 'finished above Solskjaer' trophy polished quick. It's the only one you're winning.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 11 minutes ago
Best get 'finished above Solskjaer' trophy polished quick. It's the only one you're winning.
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You hope.
Not saying this proves anything but Klopp got relegated with Mainz. Four years later he won the Bundesliga. Managers, amazingly, can improve!
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 36 minutes ago
Best get 'finished above Solskjaer' trophy polished quick. It's the only one you're winning.
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You’ve over seasoned that comments there Eric.
Far too much salt.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 24 minutes ago
Not saying this proves anything but Klopp got relegated with Mainz. Four years later he won the Bundesliga. Managers, amazingly, can improve!
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Well according to wiki Klopp won 6 out of his first 7 games to drag Mainz out of the bottom 3 and save them from relegation.
So you’re absolutely right, it doesn’t prove anything.
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 24 minutes ago
Not saying this proves anything but Klopp got relegated with Mainz. Four years later he won the Bundesliga. Managers, amazingly, can improve!
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Well according to wiki Klopp won 6 out of his first 7 games to drag Mainz out of the bottom 3 and save them from relegation.
So you’re absolutely right, it doesn’t prove anything.
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Yeah he did get them relegated, then stayed on the next season to try and get them back up, but failed, so he resigned
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 24 minutes ago
Not saying this proves anything but Klopp got relegated with Mainz. Four years later he won the Bundesliga. Managers, amazingly, can improve!
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Well according to wiki Klopp won 6 out of his first 7 games to drag Mainz out of the bottom 3 and save them from relegation.
So you’re absolutely right, it doesn’t prove anything.
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Yeah he did get them relegated, then stayed on the next season to try and get them back up, but failed, so he resigned
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Either you’re wrong or wiki is wrong -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Klopp
Because that says he saved Mainz from relegation, got them promoted for the first time in their history and led them to mid table on the smallest budget in the top division
After suffering relegation in the 2006–07 season and being unable to achieve promotion the following campaign, Klopp resigned at Mainz in 2008, departing as the club's longest-serving manage
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That's from the link you just posted
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 29 minutes ago
After suffering relegation in the 2006–07 season and being unable to achieve promotion the following campaign, Klopp resigned at Mainz in 2008, departing as the club's longest-serving manage
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That's from the link you just posted
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My bad. Should know better than to try and read/post when looking after kids.
Fair enough Naby, I sometimes have the same problem when the grand children are 'helping' me.
But it's true that managers can learn from past mistakes and improve, including yours.
Ole may or may not, but at least he made a good start even if it's gone off the rails now.
From now until next Christmas will tell us a lot. But reading about his time as a manager in Norway ( I know ) he grew into the job and all the staff and players rate him highly. So I'm optimistic.
By the way OP, wasn't Ole nearly twenty points behind you when he took over?
In fact if I can just correct your headline.
Nearly TWENTY points behind when he took over, now 28 points behind.
This from a rookie manager, and your manager and team at the top of their game.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 20 minutes ago
Fair enough Naby, I sometimes have the same problem when the grand children are 'helping' me.
But it's true that managers can learn from past mistakes and improve, including yours.
Ole may or may not, but at least he made a good start even if it's gone off the rails now.
From now until next Christmas will tell us a lot. But reading about his time as a manager in Norway ( I know ) he grew into the job and all the staff and players rate him highly. So I'm optimistic.
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Marco Silva is highly rated as well but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s ready for Utd. He’s learning at Hull and Watford and Everton.
Every single manager needs to learn. Not many are given that at one of the biggest clubs in the work. Maybe it’ll work out well but it’s a tough ask of him. Can’t help but think that if he is going to be a top level manager then this job has come 10 years too soon.
The previous three all had experience, and two were counted as world class, but it didn't work out. Perhaps a change of tack will work better.
Its ridiculous putting ole in charge of utd. In business terms utd are one of the biggest and they just appointment in essence a graduate manager to control Utd.
Its like Goldman Sachs going to a university graduate to take over at the helm....inconceivable and totally ridiculous. Never ever happen but only in the utterly mad world of football!
Since OGS took over only City and Liverpool have a better record in the PL.
Not a good analogy GB; Virtually every single manager is an ex player who got his start at smaller clubs and then either progressed or not. Including your own.
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I still don't see the logic in giving ole the job before the end of the season. He was told he had till the end of the season, then he'd find out, and he was hardly going to go anywhere else if they didn't give him it beforehand.
He's a good man, and I hope he succeeds but given his pat jobs and Utd's current form, I'm doubtful
comment by Steve Beaglehole (U15867)
posted 4 hours, 34 minutes ago
Since OGS took over only City and Liverpool have a better record in the PL.
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Only Man City & Liverpool earned more points than Leicester since Rodgers appointed at end of Feb
United win the 3rd since December trophy but Leicester win the 3rd since end of Feb one
Ah, so Ole's run was two months longer than Rodgers, Hurrah.
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posted on 5/5/19
Nothing to do with the thread but just discovered George Ezra, is he big in the UK, we don't here him here. It's the kind of music I like, he's a talent.
posted on 5/5/19
* hear
posted on 6/5/19
Best get 'finished above Solskjaer' trophy polished quick. It's the only one you're winning.
posted on 6/5/19
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 11 minutes ago
Best get 'finished above Solskjaer' trophy polished quick. It's the only one you're winning.
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You hope.
posted on 6/5/19
Not saying this proves anything but Klopp got relegated with Mainz. Four years later he won the Bundesliga. Managers, amazingly, can improve!
posted on 6/5/19
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 36 minutes ago
Best get 'finished above Solskjaer' trophy polished quick. It's the only one you're winning.
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You’ve over seasoned that comments there Eric.
Far too much salt.
posted on 6/5/19
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 24 minutes ago
Not saying this proves anything but Klopp got relegated with Mainz. Four years later he won the Bundesliga. Managers, amazingly, can improve!
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Well according to wiki Klopp won 6 out of his first 7 games to drag Mainz out of the bottom 3 and save them from relegation.
So you’re absolutely right, it doesn’t prove anything.
posted on 6/5/19
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 24 minutes ago
Not saying this proves anything but Klopp got relegated with Mainz. Four years later he won the Bundesliga. Managers, amazingly, can improve!
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Well according to wiki Klopp won 6 out of his first 7 games to drag Mainz out of the bottom 3 and save them from relegation.
So you’re absolutely right, it doesn’t prove anything.
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Yeah he did get them relegated, then stayed on the next season to try and get them back up, but failed, so he resigned
posted on 6/5/19
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 24 minutes ago
Not saying this proves anything but Klopp got relegated with Mainz. Four years later he won the Bundesliga. Managers, amazingly, can improve!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well according to wiki Klopp won 6 out of his first 7 games to drag Mainz out of the bottom 3 and save them from relegation.
So you’re absolutely right, it doesn’t prove anything.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah he did get them relegated, then stayed on the next season to try and get them back up, but failed, so he resigned
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Either you’re wrong or wiki is wrong -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Klopp
Because that says he saved Mainz from relegation, got them promoted for the first time in their history and led them to mid table on the smallest budget in the top division
posted on 6/5/19
After suffering relegation in the 2006–07 season and being unable to achieve promotion the following campaign, Klopp resigned at Mainz in 2008, departing as the club's longest-serving manage
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That's from the link you just posted
posted on 6/5/19
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 29 minutes ago
After suffering relegation in the 2006–07 season and being unable to achieve promotion the following campaign, Klopp resigned at Mainz in 2008, departing as the club's longest-serving manage
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That's from the link you just posted
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My bad. Should know better than to try and read/post when looking after kids.
posted on 6/5/19
Fair enough Naby, I sometimes have the same problem when the grand children are 'helping' me.
But it's true that managers can learn from past mistakes and improve, including yours.
Ole may or may not, but at least he made a good start even if it's gone off the rails now.
From now until next Christmas will tell us a lot. But reading about his time as a manager in Norway ( I know ) he grew into the job and all the staff and players rate him highly. So I'm optimistic.
posted on 6/5/19
By the way OP, wasn't Ole nearly twenty points behind you when he took over?
posted on 6/5/19
In fact if I can just correct your headline.
Nearly TWENTY points behind when he took over, now 28 points behind.
This from a rookie manager, and your manager and team at the top of their game.
posted on 6/5/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 20 minutes ago
Fair enough Naby, I sometimes have the same problem when the grand children are 'helping' me.
But it's true that managers can learn from past mistakes and improve, including yours.
Ole may or may not, but at least he made a good start even if it's gone off the rails now.
From now until next Christmas will tell us a lot. But reading about his time as a manager in Norway ( I know ) he grew into the job and all the staff and players rate him highly. So I'm optimistic.
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Marco Silva is highly rated as well but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s ready for Utd. He’s learning at Hull and Watford and Everton.
Every single manager needs to learn. Not many are given that at one of the biggest clubs in the work. Maybe it’ll work out well but it’s a tough ask of him. Can’t help but think that if he is going to be a top level manager then this job has come 10 years too soon.
posted on 6/5/19
The previous three all had experience, and two were counted as world class, but it didn't work out. Perhaps a change of tack will work better.
posted on 6/5/19
Its ridiculous putting ole in charge of utd. In business terms utd are one of the biggest and they just appointment in essence a graduate manager to control Utd.
Its like Goldman Sachs going to a university graduate to take over at the helm....inconceivable and totally ridiculous. Never ever happen but only in the utterly mad world of football!
posted on 6/5/19
Since OGS took over only City and Liverpool have a better record in the PL.
posted on 6/5/19
Not a good analogy GB; Virtually every single manager is an ex player who got his start at smaller clubs and then either progressed or not. Including your own.
posted on 6/5/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 6/5/19
I still don't see the logic in giving ole the job before the end of the season. He was told he had till the end of the season, then he'd find out, and he was hardly going to go anywhere else if they didn't give him it beforehand.
He's a good man, and I hope he succeeds but given his pat jobs and Utd's current form, I'm doubtful
posted on 6/5/19
comment by Steve Beaglehole (U15867)
posted 4 hours, 34 minutes ago
Since OGS took over only City and Liverpool have a better record in the PL.
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Only Man City & Liverpool earned more points than Leicester since Rodgers appointed at end of Feb
United win the 3rd since December trophy but Leicester win the 3rd since end of Feb one
posted on 6/5/19
Ah, so Ole's run was two months longer than Rodgers, Hurrah.
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