comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
Of course it is, or atleast has racial connotations.
Either way not relevant
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Its not racist. Rio is calling Cole a coward.
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Elvin, you're wrong mate, Rio meant that Cole is black on the outside, and white on the inside... meaning he has white traits, not black traits
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
Elvis, that’s because you’re looking at it as a stand-alone event, which is actually quite a poor thing to do.
You need to consider the wider context and how this affects Lukaku’s life, not just this single event.
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And you are looking at the abuse of Scott Brown as a stand alone event, rather than considering the impact of his sister's death.
Neither is nice to have to deal with, but verbal abuse is verbal abuse, no matter how horrid. Factor in dealing with the loss of a loved one and what Brown was subjected to is worse for me.
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
Of course it is, or atleast has racial connotations.
Either way not relevant
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Its not racist. Rio is calling Cole a coward.
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Elvin, you're wrong mate, Rio meant that Cole is black on the outside, and white on the inside... meaning he has white traits, not black traits
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I know what the comment means - choice, malteser, vice versa etc. But the comment was aimed at Cole because in Rio's opinion he would rather keep his mouth shut and accept racism rather than cause any disruption. He was calling him a coward.
Elvis, I don't believe so, but we'll agree to disagree fella
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Elvis, that’s because you’re looking at it as a stand-alone event, which is actually quite a poor thing to do.
You need to consider the wider context and how this affects Lukaku’s life, not just this single event.
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Surely the same must apply to all abusive singing .
What the Inter fans are saying , and im not condoning it, is that the abuse was not racist, it doesnt come from their heart, but it is used as they know it can affect how a player plays.
I remember Sol Campbell coming back to WHL (2nd time i think) and he was booed so loudly it really affected him, he couldnt complete a simple 5 yard pass.
You hear songs sung about loads of players, not racist or homophobic, which you can ask yourself "consider the wider context and how this affects the players life, not just this single event."
I find it an interesting comment from the Inter fans, not to be dismissed out of hand. It raises the wider question of the abuse that players suffer from fans in the cauldron of battle - some will be borne out of hatred but others all part of what they see as the "gamesmanship" of the occasion.
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not actually - your comparison is simply flawed.
I'm not here to rank them in order of what is worse, I'm just saying that your interpretation of racism is actually quite ignorant.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it is.
Lukaku lives with prejudice and discrimination every single day of his life. That is not the same as living with grief.
Neither can be described as worse, I'm just saying they're different.
Devonshirespur (U6316)
What?
You're comparing racism with calling someone fat?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Elvis, that’s because you’re looking at it as a stand-alone event, which is actually quite a poor thing to do.
You need to consider the wider context and how this affects Lukaku’s life, not just this single event.
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Surely the same must apply to all abusive singing .
What the Inter fans are saying , and im not condoning it, is that the abuse was not racist, it doesnt come from their heart, but it is used as they know it can affect how a player plays.
I remember Sol Campbell coming back to WHL (2nd time i think) and he was booed so loudly it really affected him, he couldnt complete a simple 5 yard pass.
You hear songs sung about loads of players, not racist or homophobic, which you can ask yourself "consider the wider context and how this affects the players life, not just this single event."
I find it an interesting comment from the Inter fans, not to be dismissed out of hand. It raises the wider question of the abuse that players suffer from fans in the cauldron of battle - some will be borne out of hatred but others all part of what they see as the "gamesmanship" of the occasion.
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But where does it end? I know you’re not condoning it but if we take a backwards step in terms of finding it abhorrent, say some fans do a ‘hisssss’ when trying to put off a Jewish player etc ? Does that lessen its horrific effect?
Why is the Scott Brown abuse being used as a comparison to the Lukaku abuse? Why is it even being brought into debate?
They are both despicable acts where ‘fans’ have tried to cause as much hurt as they can to an opposition player by saying and doing the worst thing they could think possible.
What’s concerning is how this Inter Milan fan group are defending these particular Cagliari fans, when even their own club has condemned their actions. Baffling.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not actually - your comparison is simply flawed.
I'm not here to rank them in order of what is worse, I'm just saying that your interpretation of racism is actually quite ignorant.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it is.
Lukaku lives with prejudice and discrimination every single day of his life. That is not the same as living with grief.
Neither can be described as worse, I'm just saying they're different.
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Winston, you think every that doesn't agree with you is ignorant. Which is quite ignorant in itself.
For me, dealing with the death of a loved one and being mocked over that loss will always be worse than some idiot verbally abusing you over the colour of your skin.
Elvis (U7425)
"you think every that doesn't agree with you is ignorant"
Well that's just a ridiculous lie.
"For me, dealing with the death of a loved one and being mocked over that loss will always be worse than some idiot verbally abusing you over the colour of your skin."
Of course it is, because you've not been subjected to it for your entire life.
As I said; ignorant.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not actually - your comparison is simply flawed.
I'm not here to rank them in order of what is worse, I'm just saying that your interpretation of racism is actually quite ignorant.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it is.
Lukaku lives with prejudice and discrimination every single day of his life. That is not the same as living with grief.
Neither can be described as worse, I'm just saying they're different.
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This
"Why is the Scott Brown abuse being used as a comparison to the Lukaku abuse? Why is it even being brought into debate?"
By people who have no idea what it's like to suffer discrimination, trying to demonstrate they understand what it means to Lukaku.
It's pathetic.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Elvis (U7425)
"you think every that doesn't agree with you is ignorant"
Well that's just a ridiculous lie.
"For me, dealing with the death of a loved one and being mocked over that loss will always be worse than some idiot verbally abusing you over the colour of your skin."
Of course it is, because you've not been subjected to it for your entire life.
As I said; ignorant.
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Have you dealt with the loss of a sibling?
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not commenting on how Scott Brown is feeling, so whether I have or haven't is entirely irrelevant.
You're the one making the comparison, not me.
Couldn’t believe last night when I heard that the Italian league said they needed more evidence against Calgari.
Pathetic.
A massive ignorance from the posters on here yet again. They were not racially abusing him because of the colour of his skin. They were racially abusing him because they were trying to put him off scoring a penalty. Stop being so ignorant.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not commenting on how Scott Brown is feeling, so whether I have or haven't is entirely irrelevant.
You're the one making the comparison, not me.
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You said that what was said to Scott Brown wasn't worse than racism. So you are commenting on it. Especially if we are taking on your method of considering the overall impact and not just the stand alone incident. Yet you have't lost a sibling. But it is ok for you to comment on whether or not what was said to him was worse than racism, despite not having any personal experience of it. But I can't compare it to racism, despite not having any personal experience of it?
Give your head a wobble.
Lukaku is a snow flake and needs to man up, he should take it on the chin. It’s Italian culture and immigrants like Rom should integrate instead of trying to change things!
Plus... shouldn’t he be working on his close control instead of complaining?
Just wow. The utter stupidity and ignorance of this. It’s actually confused me.
Is it possible to re-educate a nation?
Here are some things that happened in Italy last year:
Macerata shooting, Marche: On 3 February 2018, a 28-year-old Italian, Luca Traini, performed a terror attack by severely injuring six migrants from Sub-Saharan Africa in a drive-by shooting incident that was described as an act of revenge motivated by the Murder of Pamela Mastropietro. The suspect was later arrested while wearing the Flag of Italy draped over his shoulders near a WW2 memorial in Macerata.
Traini was described as a far-right political sympathizer who ran for the League and was reported to be supposedly acquainted with Mastropietro.
S.Calogero, Calabria. On 2 June - The evening of Saturday, June 2 - in San Calogero, in the province of Vibo Valentia - a 29-year-old trade unionist from Mali, Soumayla Sacko, died of a shot in the temple. The attack may have been actually ordered by the local mafia on the ground of the man's political activism.
Caserta, Campania, 11 June 2018. Two Malian men were attacked by a few people with air guns from a car and got shot. According to the victims, the aggressors were heard singing in praise the Interior minister Matteo Salvini.
Naples, Campania, 20 June 2018. Konate, a young Malian immigrant, was injured by a few people shooting him in the belly with a pellet gun while returning home after his work at a restaurant.
Forlì, Emilia-Romagna, 5 July 2018. An Ivorian man was injured by air gun shots from a running car.
Latina, Lazio, 11 July 2018. Two African migrants got shot at a bus stop, again from a running car.
Rome, Lazio, 17 July 2018. A Roma child was wounded after being shot with an air gun. Some days later, the shooter was found and justified himself on the score of “doing some training with the new gun, without intention of shooting anyone”.
Vicenza, Veneto, 26 July 2018. An Italian man shot a builder from Capo Verde who was working across the street. He justified himself stating that he was “just taking aim at a pigeon”
Partinico Sicily. A migrant from Senegal got beaten up by some Italian men that were yelling “Go back to your country, dirty nagger”.
Roseto, Abruzzo, 30 July 2018. An Italian-Senegalese man tried to renew his health card at a local hospital. An employee refused to offer him service and told him: “This is not a veterinary office”
Pistoia, Tuscany, 2 August 2018. An immigrant of unknown nationality was assaulted by two men that were shouting racist comments against him.
Falerna, Calabria, 14 August 2018. A Dominican citizen was assaulted and injured by a group of assailants that shouted racist comments against him. His Italian mother-in-law was also beaten.
Partinico, Sicily, 14 August 2018. Four Gambians and an Ivorian citizen were beaten and assaulted by several attackers for racist motives.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
Of course it is, or atleast has racial connotations.
Either way not relevant
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Its not racist. Rio is calling Cole a coward.
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Brings race and colour into it either way. OF course it has racist connotations, basically because cole didn't feel a certain way and share Rios viewpoint he wasn't "black enough". He's calling cole a coward due to him being black and not sharing his same viewpoint, and thinking that all black people should think the same as rio is inadvertently racist.
The country has elected to power racists who have repeatedly attacked African immigrants and, particularly, Roma people.
Yet racism is not a “real problem”. Yah.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
Of course it is, or atleast has racial connotations.
Either way not relevant
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Its not racist. Rio is calling Cole a coward.
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Brings race and colour into it either way. OF course it has racist connotations, basically because cole didn't feel a certain way and share Rios viewpoint he wasn't "black enough". He's calling cole a coward due to him being black and not sharing his same viewpoint, and thinking that all black people should think the same as rio is inadvertently racist.
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Believing that people should stand up to racism is racist? Ok then.
way to twist words I take it your being like this because you are a utd fan and Rio was a favourite? read what I said again.
Not really relevant. What Rio said to Cole wasn't racist. I'd say ridiculing the death of someone's family is worse than racist (verbal) abuse.
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It is on a different level altogether.
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posted on 4/9/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
Of course it is, or atleast has racial connotations.
Either way not relevant
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Its not racist. Rio is calling Cole a coward.
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Elvin, you're wrong mate, Rio meant that Cole is black on the outside, and white on the inside... meaning he has white traits, not black traits
posted on 4/9/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
Elvis, that’s because you’re looking at it as a stand-alone event, which is actually quite a poor thing to do.
You need to consider the wider context and how this affects Lukaku’s life, not just this single event.
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And you are looking at the abuse of Scott Brown as a stand alone event, rather than considering the impact of his sister's death.
Neither is nice to have to deal with, but verbal abuse is verbal abuse, no matter how horrid. Factor in dealing with the loss of a loved one and what Brown was subjected to is worse for me.
posted on 4/9/19
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
Of course it is, or atleast has racial connotations.
Either way not relevant
------------------
Its not racist. Rio is calling Cole a coward.
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Elvin, you're wrong mate, Rio meant that Cole is black on the outside, and white on the inside... meaning he has white traits, not black traits
------------------
I know what the comment means - choice, malteser, vice versa etc. But the comment was aimed at Cole because in Rio's opinion he would rather keep his mouth shut and accept racism rather than cause any disruption. He was calling him a coward.
posted on 4/9/19
Elvis, I don't believe so, but we'll agree to disagree fella
posted on 4/9/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Elvis, that’s because you’re looking at it as a stand-alone event, which is actually quite a poor thing to do.
You need to consider the wider context and how this affects Lukaku’s life, not just this single event.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Surely the same must apply to all abusive singing .
What the Inter fans are saying , and im not condoning it, is that the abuse was not racist, it doesnt come from their heart, but it is used as they know it can affect how a player plays.
I remember Sol Campbell coming back to WHL (2nd time i think) and he was booed so loudly it really affected him, he couldnt complete a simple 5 yard pass.
You hear songs sung about loads of players, not racist or homophobic, which you can ask yourself "consider the wider context and how this affects the players life, not just this single event."
I find it an interesting comment from the Inter fans, not to be dismissed out of hand. It raises the wider question of the abuse that players suffer from fans in the cauldron of battle - some will be borne out of hatred but others all part of what they see as the "gamesmanship" of the occasion.
posted on 4/9/19
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not actually - your comparison is simply flawed.
I'm not here to rank them in order of what is worse, I'm just saying that your interpretation of racism is actually quite ignorant.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it is.
Lukaku lives with prejudice and discrimination every single day of his life. That is not the same as living with grief.
Neither can be described as worse, I'm just saying they're different.
posted on 4/9/19
Devonshirespur (U6316)
What?
You're comparing racism with calling someone fat?
posted on 4/9/19
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Elvis, that’s because you’re looking at it as a stand-alone event, which is actually quite a poor thing to do.
You need to consider the wider context and how this affects Lukaku’s life, not just this single event.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Surely the same must apply to all abusive singing .
What the Inter fans are saying , and im not condoning it, is that the abuse was not racist, it doesnt come from their heart, but it is used as they know it can affect how a player plays.
I remember Sol Campbell coming back to WHL (2nd time i think) and he was booed so loudly it really affected him, he couldnt complete a simple 5 yard pass.
You hear songs sung about loads of players, not racist or homophobic, which you can ask yourself "consider the wider context and how this affects the players life, not just this single event."
I find it an interesting comment from the Inter fans, not to be dismissed out of hand. It raises the wider question of the abuse that players suffer from fans in the cauldron of battle - some will be borne out of hatred but others all part of what they see as the "gamesmanship" of the occasion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But where does it end? I know you’re not condoning it but if we take a backwards step in terms of finding it abhorrent, say some fans do a ‘hisssss’ when trying to put off a Jewish player etc ? Does that lessen its horrific effect?
posted on 4/9/19
Why is the Scott Brown abuse being used as a comparison to the Lukaku abuse? Why is it even being brought into debate?
They are both despicable acts where ‘fans’ have tried to cause as much hurt as they can to an opposition player by saying and doing the worst thing they could think possible.
What’s concerning is how this Inter Milan fan group are defending these particular Cagliari fans, when even their own club has condemned their actions. Baffling.
posted on 4/9/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not actually - your comparison is simply flawed.
I'm not here to rank them in order of what is worse, I'm just saying that your interpretation of racism is actually quite ignorant.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it is.
Lukaku lives with prejudice and discrimination every single day of his life. That is not the same as living with grief.
Neither can be described as worse, I'm just saying they're different.
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Winston, you think every that doesn't agree with you is ignorant. Which is quite ignorant in itself.
For me, dealing with the death of a loved one and being mocked over that loss will always be worse than some idiot verbally abusing you over the colour of your skin.
posted on 4/9/19
Elvis (U7425)
"you think every that doesn't agree with you is ignorant"
Well that's just a ridiculous lie.
"For me, dealing with the death of a loved one and being mocked over that loss will always be worse than some idiot verbally abusing you over the colour of your skin."
Of course it is, because you've not been subjected to it for your entire life.
As I said; ignorant.
posted on 4/9/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not actually - your comparison is simply flawed.
I'm not here to rank them in order of what is worse, I'm just saying that your interpretation of racism is actually quite ignorant.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it is.
Lukaku lives with prejudice and discrimination every single day of his life. That is not the same as living with grief.
Neither can be described as worse, I'm just saying they're different.
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This
posted on 4/9/19
"Why is the Scott Brown abuse being used as a comparison to the Lukaku abuse? Why is it even being brought into debate?"
By people who have no idea what it's like to suffer discrimination, trying to demonstrate they understand what it means to Lukaku.
It's pathetic.
posted on 4/9/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Elvis (U7425)
"you think every that doesn't agree with you is ignorant"
Well that's just a ridiculous lie.
"For me, dealing with the death of a loved one and being mocked over that loss will always be worse than some idiot verbally abusing you over the colour of your skin."
Of course it is, because you've not been subjected to it for your entire life.
As I said; ignorant.
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Have you dealt with the loss of a sibling?
posted on 4/9/19
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not commenting on how Scott Brown is feeling, so whether I have or haven't is entirely irrelevant.
You're the one making the comparison, not me.
posted on 4/9/19
Couldn’t believe last night when I heard that the Italian league said they needed more evidence against Calgari.
Pathetic.
posted on 4/9/19
A massive ignorance from the posters on here yet again. They were not racially abusing him because of the colour of his skin. They were racially abusing him because they were trying to put him off scoring a penalty. Stop being so ignorant.
posted on 4/9/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Elvis (U7425)
I'm not commenting on how Scott Brown is feeling, so whether I have or haven't is entirely irrelevant.
You're the one making the comparison, not me.
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You said that what was said to Scott Brown wasn't worse than racism. So you are commenting on it. Especially if we are taking on your method of considering the overall impact and not just the stand alone incident. Yet you have't lost a sibling. But it is ok for you to comment on whether or not what was said to him was worse than racism, despite not having any personal experience of it. But I can't compare it to racism, despite not having any personal experience of it?
Give your head a wobble.
posted on 4/9/19
Lukaku is a snow flake and needs to man up, he should take it on the chin. It’s Italian culture and immigrants like Rom should integrate instead of trying to change things!
Plus... shouldn’t he be working on his close control instead of complaining?
posted on 4/9/19
Just wow. The utter stupidity and ignorance of this. It’s actually confused me.
Is it possible to re-educate a nation?
Here are some things that happened in Italy last year:
Macerata shooting, Marche: On 3 February 2018, a 28-year-old Italian, Luca Traini, performed a terror attack by severely injuring six migrants from Sub-Saharan Africa in a drive-by shooting incident that was described as an act of revenge motivated by the Murder of Pamela Mastropietro. The suspect was later arrested while wearing the Flag of Italy draped over his shoulders near a WW2 memorial in Macerata.
Traini was described as a far-right political sympathizer who ran for the League and was reported to be supposedly acquainted with Mastropietro.
S.Calogero, Calabria. On 2 June - The evening of Saturday, June 2 - in San Calogero, in the province of Vibo Valentia - a 29-year-old trade unionist from Mali, Soumayla Sacko, died of a shot in the temple. The attack may have been actually ordered by the local mafia on the ground of the man's political activism.
Caserta, Campania, 11 June 2018. Two Malian men were attacked by a few people with air guns from a car and got shot. According to the victims, the aggressors were heard singing in praise the Interior minister Matteo Salvini.
Naples, Campania, 20 June 2018. Konate, a young Malian immigrant, was injured by a few people shooting him in the belly with a pellet gun while returning home after his work at a restaurant.
Forlì, Emilia-Romagna, 5 July 2018. An Ivorian man was injured by air gun shots from a running car.
Latina, Lazio, 11 July 2018. Two African migrants got shot at a bus stop, again from a running car.
Rome, Lazio, 17 July 2018. A Roma child was wounded after being shot with an air gun. Some days later, the shooter was found and justified himself on the score of “doing some training with the new gun, without intention of shooting anyone”.
Vicenza, Veneto, 26 July 2018. An Italian man shot a builder from Capo Verde who was working across the street. He justified himself stating that he was “just taking aim at a pigeon”
Partinico Sicily. A migrant from Senegal got beaten up by some Italian men that were yelling “Go back to your country, dirty nagger”.
Roseto, Abruzzo, 30 July 2018. An Italian-Senegalese man tried to renew his health card at a local hospital. An employee refused to offer him service and told him: “This is not a veterinary office”
Pistoia, Tuscany, 2 August 2018. An immigrant of unknown nationality was assaulted by two men that were shouting racist comments against him.
Falerna, Calabria, 14 August 2018. A Dominican citizen was assaulted and injured by a group of assailants that shouted racist comments against him. His Italian mother-in-law was also beaten.
Partinico, Sicily, 14 August 2018. Four Gambians and an Ivorian citizen were beaten and assaulted by several attackers for racist motives.
posted on 4/9/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
Of course it is, or atleast has racial connotations.
Either way not relevant
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Its not racist. Rio is calling Cole a coward.
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Brings race and colour into it either way. OF course it has racist connotations, basically because cole didn't feel a certain way and share Rios viewpoint he wasn't "black enough". He's calling cole a coward due to him being black and not sharing his same viewpoint, and thinking that all black people should think the same as rio is inadvertently racist.
posted on 4/9/19
The country has elected to power racists who have repeatedly attacked African immigrants and, particularly, Roma people.
Yet racism is not a “real problem”. Yah.
posted on 4/9/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
Of course it is, or atleast has racial connotations.
Either way not relevant
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Its not racist. Rio is calling Cole a coward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brings race and colour into it either way. OF course it has racist connotations, basically because cole didn't feel a certain way and share Rios viewpoint he wasn't "black enough". He's calling cole a coward due to him being black and not sharing his same viewpoint, and thinking that all black people should think the same as rio is inadvertently racist.
-------------------------
Believing that people should stand up to racism is racist? Ok then.
posted on 4/9/19
way to twist words I take it your being like this because you are a utd fan and Rio was a favourite? read what I said again.
posted on 4/9/19
Not really relevant. What Rio said to Cole wasn't racist. I'd say ridiculing the death of someone's family is worse than racist (verbal) abuse.
................
It is on a different level altogether.
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