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comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 20/10/19

Did you honestly think our goal should gave been disallowed? He failed to control the ball and took a dive.

posted on 20/10/19

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 9 seconds ago
Did you honestly think our goal should gave been disallowed? He failed to control the ball and took a dive.
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There is contact. I think if Origi hadnt gone over like a sniper got him then VAR may have given the foul.

posted on 20/10/19

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 23 seconds ago
Did you honestly think our goal should gave been disallowed? He failed to control the ball and took a dive.
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It was deffo a kick. And most people would agree we got lucky with the goal. We didn’t deserve to lose the game and I doubt any Liverpool fans would have felt the goal was out of the blue but it was a million percent a foul and another VaR failure

posted on 20/10/19

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Did you honestly think our goal should gave been disallowed? He failed to control the ball and took a dive.
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As much as I would have liked a foul to be given, I dont think it was a foul on Origi to be fair.
There might have been the slightest contact on the inside of his left knee, possibly, but he went down clutching his calf, so no, no foul for me.

posted on 20/10/19

If you bother to look up Klopps record at Old Trafford then there is nothing strange about today’s game and besides this match has served up this kind of dull encounter consistently. The only thing that made this interesting was the sub plot that apparently all Liverpool has to turn up and choose how many goals they would win by.

VAR then obviously made it a spectacle

posted on 20/10/19

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Did you honestly think our goal should gave been disallowed? He failed to control the ball and took a dive.
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As much as I would have liked a foul to be given, I dont think it was a foul on Origi to be fair.
There might have been the slightest contact on the inside of his left knee, possibly, but he went down clutching his calf, so no, no foul for me.
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Did you not see the replays? On the station I watched it on it was slowed down and a clear kick on the leg. Something that should have been clear on VAR to a competent video referee

Either way, it was given as a goal but I just worry with VAR being so awful it’s one day gonna screw us over

posted on 20/10/19

Was probably a foul but I dont think its 'clear and obvious' by any stretch

posted on 20/10/19

Not sure we were that lucky with our goal. You’ve seen them given but it was exceptionally soft. I’d like to think it would teach players not to try and buy cheap free-kicks from minimal contact in the opposition’s half.

I thought it was a poor game. Not impressed with Liverpool at all - I think City would have won that by a couple. We looked pretty clueless going forward but deserved at least a point.

Pereira was better but not great. No one really stood out for me.

posted on 20/10/19

I thought United were good 1st half but once 60 minutes cane they seemed to try and just hold what they had which was strange as weren’t playing well and a second for them kills the game
Though both VAR were correct and a fair result in the end

posted on 20/10/19

comment by Robb : Time for a change (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Did you honestly think our goal should gave been disallowed? He failed to control the ball and took a dive.
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As much as I would have liked a foul to be given, I dont think it was a foul on Origi to be fair.
There might have been the slightest contact on the inside of his left knee, possibly, but he went down clutching his calf, so no, no foul for me.
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Did you not see the replays? On the station I watched it on it was slowed down and a clear kick on the leg. Something that should have been clear on VAR to a competent video referee

Either way, it was given as a goal but I just worry with VAR being so awful it’s one day gonna screw us over
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Beyond todays game, there is no doubt, VAR is a mess.

posted on 20/10/19

Ole is pretty good at Jose-ing a game against a better side

Shame he plays like that against all the dross you should be brushing aside too

posted on 20/10/19

We weren’t playing well

posted on 20/10/19

Fair comment except for the Ole bottling it. They were always be pushing for the equaliser, so we decided to play for the time out, as a capable manager would.

posted on 20/10/19

I think a draw was fair. I do think the loss of Salah screwed a bit with Liverpool as they just had nothing from the right side to cause us any concern until we say back and allowed them back in

posted on 20/10/19

It barely looked like Origi was touched, so not clear cut for me. Which means it shouldn’t be overturned.

posted on 20/10/19

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb : Time for a change (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Did you honestly think our goal should gave been disallowed? He failed to control the ball and took a dive.
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As much as I would have liked a foul to be given, I dont think it was a foul on Origi to be fair.
There might have been the slightest contact on the inside of his left knee, possibly, but he went down clutching his calf, so no, no foul for me.
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Did you not see the replays? On the station I watched it on it was slowed down and a clear kick on the leg. Something that should have been clear on VAR to a competent video referee

Either way, it was given as a goal but I just worry with VAR being so awful it’s one day gonna screw us over
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Beyond todays game, there is no doubt, VAR is a mess.
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It is. And every team will suffer from it

posted on 20/10/19

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 29 seconds ago
I thought United were good 1st half but once 60 minutes cane they seemed to try and just hold what they had which was strange as weren’t playing well and a second for them kills the game
Though both VAR were correct and a fair result in the end
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I think there were a number of players visibly tiring and with a lack of any real quality to bring off the bench, we were better off sticking with what we had. We couldn't maintain what we did in the first half all game.

Had we a couple of half decent midfielders to bring off the bench it might have been a different story. But hey ho.

posted on 20/10/19

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Did you honestly think our goal should gave been disallowed? He failed to control the ball and took a dive.
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As much as I would have liked a foul to be given, I dont think it was a foul on Origi to be fair.
There might have been the slightest contact on the inside of his left knee, possibly, but he went down clutching his calf, so no, no foul for me.
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Well Robb thinks most people think it was a clear foul. It wasn’t a clear foul, it was a kick but football is a contact sport. Mane was denied at least three of those kind of so called fouls and the ref chose to play on

posted on 20/10/19

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 29 seconds ago
I thought United were good 1st half but once 60 minutes cane they seemed to try and just hold what they had which was strange as weren’t playing well and a second for them kills the game
Though both VAR were correct and a fair result in the end
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I think there were a number of players visibly tiring and with a lack of any real quality to bring off the bench, we were better off sticking with what we had. We couldn't maintain what we did in the first half all game.

Had we a couple of half decent midfielders to bring off the bench it might have been a different story. But hey ho.
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Said it to my United mate I was watching the game with I thought you’d tore 2nd half after the effort put in the first

posted on 20/10/19

comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Did you honestly think our goal should gave been disallowed? He failed to control the ball and took a dive.
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As much as I would have liked a foul to be given, I dont think it was a foul on Origi to be fair.
There might have been the slightest contact on the inside of his left knee, possibly, but he went down clutching his calf, so no, no foul for me.
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Well Robb thinks most people think it was a clear foul. It wasn’t a clear foul, it was a kick but football is a contact sport. Mane was denied at least three of those kind of so called fouls and the ref chose to play on


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That’s the issue with the current iteration of VAR. You say football is a contact sport but a foul is a foul. And if VAR didn’t have the stupid ‘high bar’ rubbish then it would have been given

Again, doesn’t bother me that much as we benefitted but my wider issue is how ridiculous VaR is right now.

posted on 20/10/19

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 29 seconds ago
I thought United were good 1st half but once 60 minutes cane they seemed to try and just hold what they had which was strange as weren’t playing well and a second for them kills the game
Though both VAR were correct and a fair result in the end
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I think there were a number of players visibly tiring and with a lack of any real quality to bring off the bench, we were better off sticking with what we had. We couldn't maintain what we did in the first half all game.

Had we a couple of half decent midfielders to bring off the bench it might have been a different story. But hey ho.
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Said it to my United mate I was watching the game with I thought you’d tore 2nd half after the effort put in the first
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Yeah, was totally inevitable.

Sitting back was the only way we would get through that game. Unfortunately one really poor piece of defending let us down again. It's a shame because as a defensive unit we are really not that bad.

comment by Shugs (U14253)

posted on 20/10/19

Ole went more defensive because of their subs... If he'd done nothing and they equalised the same people screaming he'd bottled it would be destroying him for not reacting

We were pretty comfortable imo... And then 2 mistakes cost us the goal... Not stopping the cross and Ashley young leaving lallana

I don't think he got the change right tho... I'd have went 451 rather than 541... Rojo left back, young left mid, james right wing/mid... Left Pereira as a 10 dropping on to fabinho... Might have taken their wide threat out

Some people were squealing about the teams quality before the game... Now squealing because we didn't beat one of the top 2 sides in the league.

There's plenty of positives about today... Bit if tempo, heart, no 4231 and a return to a bit of mixing up the tactics

For 80 odd minutes we barely put a foot wrong

posted on 20/10/19

Very disappointed this afternoon. Soon as ole parked the bus it was obvs that they would get back in the game and even maybe win it. Which is what they almost did.

posted on 20/10/19

Lindelof’s toe hit Origi’s knee, he could have easily stayed on his feet IMO, contact doesn’t mean foul. It certainly wasn’t a clear mistake by the on-field referee.

posted on 20/10/19

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 29 seconds ago
I thought United were good 1st half but once 60 minutes cane they seemed to try and just hold what they had which was strange as weren’t playing well and a second for them kills the game
Though both VAR were correct and a fair result in the end
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I think there were a number of players visibly tiring and with a lack of any real quality to bring off the bench, we were better off sticking with what we had. We couldn't maintain what we did in the first half all game.

Had we a couple of half decent midfielders to bring off the bench it might have been a different story. But hey ho.
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Said it to my United mate I was watching the game with I thought you’d tore 2nd half after the effort put in the first
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Yeah, was totally inevitable.

Sitting back was the only way we would get through that game. Unfortunately one really poor piece of defending let us down again. It's a shame because as a defensive unit we are really not that bad.
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Must be frustrating though to play that way against us in comparison to some of the other performances this season

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