comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
I honestly can’t believe what I am reading. It took 5 years for America to send their soldiers to European soil. FIVE YEARS. America never intended on getting involved until Hitler himself declared war on them.
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What are you on about?
Five years? The thing started in 1939. They didn’t join in the fight until 1941. They came over to the U.K. in 1942 and later that same year were fighting in North Africa.
Christ. This is elemental stuff.
comment by Weare (U19211)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hitler really lost his shiiiiit in the end.. How many countries did he want to fight ffs
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Everyone.
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I honestly can’t believe what I am reading. It took 5 years for America to send their soldiers to European soil. FIVE YEARS. America never intended on getting involved until Hitler himself declared war on them.
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Exactly.
comment by AFTP - Surfer Of The Decade (U21889)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I honestly can’t believe what I am reading. It took 5 years for America to send their soldiers to European soil. FIVE YEARS. America never intended on getting involved until Hitler himself declared war on them.
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Exactly.
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Exactly what? He’s wrong
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comment by Weare (U19211)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by AFTP - Surfer Of The Decade (U21889)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I honestly can’t believe what I am reading. It took 5 years for America to send their soldiers to European soil. FIVE YEARS. America never intended on getting involved until Hitler himself declared war on them.
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Exactly.
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cluless the pair of you
America came into the war in 1941 .. thats 2 yrs not 5
maths for 1 yr olds here
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Unbelievable
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I said 5 years to enter European soil. Although I was wrong there because a portion of the allied troops forcing Italy’s surrender in 1943 was made up of American troops. So my bad, 4 years
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comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 15 seconds ago
I said 5 years to enter European soil. Although I was wrong there because a portion of the allied troops forcing Italy’s surrender in 1943 was made up of American troops. So my bad, 4 years
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Germany could not have been fought back without machinery, equipment and weapons from the US.
Germany tried very very hard to stop the USA from entering the war. They tried diplomatic means to achieve that. They knew it would hurt them. They had sabotaged and weakened Europe strategically and many nations did not have the means or ability to even move food from one place to where it was needed.
You only seem to focus on troops but war is more than troops. 1000 unequipped troops can be slaughtered by about 20 equipped troops, proverbially speaking, and that's exactly what was happening in Europe. For yhe first years, the Germans were more innovative, better equipped and prepared than anyone else, fighting and ridiculously winning wars on multiple fronts.
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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Ok, let me rephrase. America did not show any aggression towards the Axis until invading a weak Italy in 1943.
All you have to do is look at the death toll suffered by America in comparison to the European superpowers and you are talking fractions. They were very clever with their involvement and only wanted to fight on the winning side. They were supplying Russia and Germany at the same time, whilst they were at odds with one another ffs and we are meant to think they are heroic for effectively earning blood money at the expense of tens of millions of dead civilians
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comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
I said 5 years to enter European soil. Although I was wrong there because a portion of the allied troops forcing Italy’s surrender in 1943 was made up of American troops. So my bad, 4 years
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No. They were in the U.K. from 1942. Working in our factories. Improving our output. Training and preparing for the landings. Helping us to defend a possible invasion. Espionage.
Still wrong.
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
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Agreed.
But they still managed to move entire factories, some 300 miles deeper into Russia. We're talking thousands of factories here and millions of people.
That is simply amazing and it kept them in the war. They did this all themselves
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comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
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AMERICA WERE SUPPLYING GERMANY AT THE EXACT SAME TIME!!! WHY IS NOBODY MENTIONING THIS
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
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Agreed.
But they still managed to move entire factories, some 300 miles deeper into Russia. We're talking thousands of factories here and millions of people.
That is simply amazing and it kept them in the war. They did this all themselves
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No, I just told you they did it with help from allies, they didn't move these factories on their backs. They had trucks and machinery from the US.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/history-of-world-war-ii-americas-was-providing-military-aid-to-the-ussr-while-also-supporting-nazi-germany/5449378
My favorite part is the quote from then president Harry Truman making money at the expense of Germany and Russia destroying one another
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comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
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AMERICA WERE SUPPLYING GERMANY AT THE EXACT SAME TIME!!! WHY IS NOBODY MENTIONING THIS
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Because its not as simple as that. They sold to Germany, they didn't supply Germany, there's a difference.
Secondly, it was before the declaration of war which means they had no obligation to not supply anyone they wanted to supply
Thirdly, so few companies jointly owned by Rockefeller and some Germans happened to sell weapons to Germany. That's doesn't constitute "being supplied by the US".
It was all business, but when it turned to war, the US did its part.
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comment by We-are (U19211)
posted 10 minutes ago
already been said on here .. The UK had no money so the Americans had to pass an act of congress to supply us arms etc and pay later... they made billions out of the war
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Much like the uk does today except we’re not in any wars. We make money out of other people’s wars we have no intention whatsoever of joining in and taking sides.
US confirms ZERO Casualties in Iraq
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posted on 9/1/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
I honestly can’t believe what I am reading. It took 5 years for America to send their soldiers to European soil. FIVE YEARS. America never intended on getting involved until Hitler himself declared war on them.
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What are you on about?
Five years? The thing started in 1939. They didn’t join in the fight until 1941. They came over to the U.K. in 1942 and later that same year were fighting in North Africa.
Christ. This is elemental stuff.
posted on 9/1/20
comment by Weare (U19211)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hitler really lost his shiiiiit in the end.. How many countries did he want to fight ffs
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Everyone.
posted on 9/1/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I honestly can’t believe what I am reading. It took 5 years for America to send their soldiers to European soil. FIVE YEARS. America never intended on getting involved until Hitler himself declared war on them.
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Exactly.
posted on 9/1/20
comment by AFTP - Surfer Of The Decade (U21889)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I honestly can’t believe what I am reading. It took 5 years for America to send their soldiers to European soil. FIVE YEARS. America never intended on getting involved until Hitler himself declared war on them.
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Exactly.
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Exactly what? He’s wrong
posted on 9/1/20
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posted on 9/1/20
comment by Weare (U19211)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by AFTP - Surfer Of The Decade (U21889)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I honestly can’t believe what I am reading. It took 5 years for America to send their soldiers to European soil. FIVE YEARS. America never intended on getting involved until Hitler himself declared war on them.
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Exactly.
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cluless the pair of you
America came into the war in 1941 .. thats 2 yrs not 5
maths for 1 yr olds here
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Unbelievable
posted on 9/1/20
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posted on 9/1/20
I said 5 years to enter European soil. Although I was wrong there because a portion of the allied troops forcing Italy’s surrender in 1943 was made up of American troops. So my bad, 4 years
posted on 9/1/20
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posted on 9/1/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 15 seconds ago
I said 5 years to enter European soil. Although I was wrong there because a portion of the allied troops forcing Italy’s surrender in 1943 was made up of American troops. So my bad, 4 years
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Germany could not have been fought back without machinery, equipment and weapons from the US.
Germany tried very very hard to stop the USA from entering the war. They tried diplomatic means to achieve that. They knew it would hurt them. They had sabotaged and weakened Europe strategically and many nations did not have the means or ability to even move food from one place to where it was needed.
You only seem to focus on troops but war is more than troops. 1000 unequipped troops can be slaughtered by about 20 equipped troops, proverbially speaking, and that's exactly what was happening in Europe. For yhe first years, the Germans were more innovative, better equipped and prepared than anyone else, fighting and ridiculously winning wars on multiple fronts.
posted on 9/1/20
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
posted on 9/1/20
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posted on 9/1/20
Ok, let me rephrase. America did not show any aggression towards the Axis until invading a weak Italy in 1943.
All you have to do is look at the death toll suffered by America in comparison to the European superpowers and you are talking fractions. They were very clever with their involvement and only wanted to fight on the winning side. They were supplying Russia and Germany at the same time, whilst they were at odds with one another ffs and we are meant to think they are heroic for effectively earning blood money at the expense of tens of millions of dead civilians
posted on 9/1/20
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posted on 9/1/20
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
posted on 9/1/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
I said 5 years to enter European soil. Although I was wrong there because a portion of the allied troops forcing Italy’s surrender in 1943 was made up of American troops. So my bad, 4 years
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No. They were in the U.K. from 1942. Working in our factories. Improving our output. Training and preparing for the landings. Helping us to defend a possible invasion. Espionage.
Still wrong.
posted on 9/1/20
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
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Agreed.
But they still managed to move entire factories, some 300 miles deeper into Russia. We're talking thousands of factories here and millions of people.
That is simply amazing and it kept them in the war. They did this all themselves
posted on 9/1/20
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posted on 9/1/20
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
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AMERICA WERE SUPPLYING GERMANY AT THE EXACT SAME TIME!!! WHY IS NOBODY MENTIONING THIS
posted on 9/1/20
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
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Agreed.
But they still managed to move entire factories, some 300 miles deeper into Russia. We're talking thousands of factories here and millions of people.
That is simply amazing and it kept them in the war. They did this all themselves
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No, I just told you they did it with help from allies, they didn't move these factories on their backs. They had trucks and machinery from the US.
posted on 9/1/20
https://www.globalresearch.ca/history-of-world-war-ii-americas-was-providing-military-aid-to-the-ussr-while-also-supporting-nazi-germany/5449378
My favorite part is the quote from then president Harry Truman making money at the expense of Germany and Russia destroying one another
posted on 9/1/20
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posted on 9/1/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 minute ago
Hitler thought he could steamroll Russia with the same blitzkrieg tactics that crushed Poland.
It started well and they had Russia at their knees, but the harshest winter in decades slowed the German advance. Russia were able to relocate thousands of tank factories deeper into Russia and were able to out-produce Germany. In the time it took the Germans to build a Tiger, Russia could build at least 25 T34, T43, or T44 - Even the Panzer IV was complicated and required huge resources/man-power.
The Russians were able to build simpler tanks in huge numbers. Their losses were huge, but were able to replace their loses at a much quicker rate than the Germans.
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In developing the the ability to out-produce Germany, the Russians had a lot of help.
They could never have done it before the end of winter if it wasn't for the USA and the allies and would have been defeated if winter had arrived wothoutvyhem being prepared. It was a race against time, having been badly hurt by Germany in the initial encounters.
Russia did not save itself, nobody saved themselves on their own.
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AMERICA WERE SUPPLYING GERMANY AT THE EXACT SAME TIME!!! WHY IS NOBODY MENTIONING THIS
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Because its not as simple as that. They sold to Germany, they didn't supply Germany, there's a difference.
Secondly, it was before the declaration of war which means they had no obligation to not supply anyone they wanted to supply
Thirdly, so few companies jointly owned by Rockefeller and some Germans happened to sell weapons to Germany. That's doesn't constitute "being supplied by the US".
It was all business, but when it turned to war, the US did its part.
posted on 9/1/20
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posted on 9/1/20
comment by We-are (U19211)
posted 10 minutes ago
already been said on here .. The UK had no money so the Americans had to pass an act of congress to supply us arms etc and pay later... they made billions out of the war
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Much like the uk does today except we’re not in any wars. We make money out of other people’s wars we have no intention whatsoever of joining in and taking sides.
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