comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
Reports suggest the more expensive the ticket, the more likely fans leave early which probably suggests that people who pay top dollar and are frustrated and angry by what they have seen leave, especially when they haven't been entertained.
Germany doesn't appear to have this problem, where ticket prices are much lower.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
What reports?
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Reports on why fans leave early. I've read a few over the past few years.
What is it that doesn't make sense to you? You don't believe there is a correlation between how much you pay and how angry you get at what value you're getting?
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No I don’t.
I also think there’s a reverse argument to say that the less you pay for your ticket, the easier you’d find it to decide to leave early.
Feel free to share any evidence you have because what you’ve said makes little sense imo.
A fair few left before the end v QPR in 2012, probably the impending disappointment was too much to bear.
I bet there was a scramble to get back in when they heard the cheers when Edin made it 2-2
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
Reports suggest the more expensive the ticket, the more likely fans leave early which probably suggests that people who pay top dollar and are frustrated and angry by what they have seen leave, especially when they haven't been entertained.
Germany doesn't appear to have this problem, where ticket prices are much lower.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
What reports?
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Reports on why fans leave early. I've read a few over the past few years.
What is it that doesn't make sense to you? You don't believe there is a correlation between how much you pay and how angry you get at what value you're getting?
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No I don’t.
I also think there’s a reverse argument to say that the less you pay for your ticket, the easier you’d find it to decide to leave early.
Feel free to share any evidence you have because what you’ve said makes little sense imo.
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This was one of the articles I remember reading.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/nov/09/english-football-early-leaving-syndrome
So no actual evidence then, and indeed early in the article it seems contradict your claim.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
So no actual evidence then, and indeed early in the article it seems contradict your claim.
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I didnt make the claim. I stated what it said.
Did you read the article?
"Paradoxically, the more expensive the ticket, the likelier the early leaver".
I didn't say there was evidence. I said the reports I read suggested it.
I know.
I was just reiterating that there’s no evidence, so
I haven’t changed my mind that it makes little sense.
And yes, I read it. See here:
“First of all early leaver syndrome, when it does occasionally crop up in Germany, takes place only in the luxury, expensive seats, whereas at Anfield the departees took part in a more general trudge.”
Contradicts the point.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
I know.
I was just reiterating that there’s no evidence, so
I haven’t changed my mind that it makes little sense.
And yes, I read it. See here:
“First of all early leaver syndrome, when it does occasionally crop up in Germany, takes place only in the luxury, expensive seats, whereas at Anfield the departees took part in a more general trudge.”
Contradicts the point.
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I don't believe Liverpool had much luxury seats at the time the article was written. That has since changed so it would be interesting to see if there has been a change there.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
I know.
I was just reiterating that there’s no evidence, so
I haven’t changed my mind that it makes little sense.
And yes, I read it. See here:
“First of all early leaver syndrome, when it does occasionally crop up in Germany, takes place only in the luxury, expensive seats, whereas at Anfield the departees took part in a more general trudge.”
Contradicts the point.
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I don't believe Liverpool had much luxury seats at the time the article was written. That has since changed so it would be interesting to see if there has been a change there.
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It’d be interesting to see if there’s an ounce of truth in the claim, full stop.
I could get on board with the idea that the corporate seats are more likely to see people swan off to the bar sooner than the normal folk may choose to go home, but that would be different of course.
I realise the thread has taken a different path, and that’s fair enough, but I wasn’t so much wondering why people would leave a game 5-10 minutes before the end (which happens irrespective of whether their team is winning, drawing, or losing).
I was more wondering about why people would leave much earlier in a game based solely on the reason that their team were getting comprehensively beaten at that moment in time.
The example I gave (for example) - Villa fans were seen leaving at 2-0 (after 25 minutes) and many more at 3-0 (after 28 minutes).
Ripley,
It must be the drinking water in Manchester! It's not just a Man City problem. The United fans were booing at half-time and most of them were gone when the score was 2-0.
This is what I love about City fans. The only reasoned, measured, intelligent comments on any board on ja606.
Top of the list is Melton.
I was Blue Stocking on the old BBC 606 and tried to continue on here after its demise but it got too vitriolic and pointless.
There might be only a few left, to keep the flag flying but It’ll be a privilege to be here again.
Every opposition supporter of a losing club in finals at Wembley vanish long before the trophy is presented. Modern fans are not very gracious.
comment by Blue Stocking (U22255)
posted 14 hours, 27 minutes ago
This is what I love about City fans. The only reasoned, measured, intelligent comments on any board on ja606.
Top of the list is Melton.
I was Blue Stocking on the old BBC 606 and tried to continue on here after its demise but it got too vitriolic and pointless.
There might be only a few left, to keep the flag flying but It’ll be a privilege to be here again.
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Yeh, paulspowerleftfoot and LQ are just delightful people.
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comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 3 minutes ago
When I was ST holder at Leeds a man next to me always left with 10 mins to go. Missed some amazing finishes.
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A couple of guys that sat near me at OT for many years were two brothers, one would leave with 5 mins to go every game to get the car out and ready.
Think of the goals he missed - I'd rather have been there for it and sat in traffic for another hour.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Blue Stocking (U22255)
posted 14 hours, 27 minutes ago
This is what I love about City fans. The only reasoned, measured, intelligent comments on any board on ja606.
Top of the list is Melton.
I was Blue Stocking on the old BBC 606 and tried to continue on here after its demise but it got too vitriolic and pointless.
There might be only a few left, to keep the flag flying but It’ll be a privilege to be here again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, paulspowerleftfoot and LQ are just delightful people.
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As I say, vitriolic and pointless.
comment by Blue Stocking (U22255)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Blue Stocking (U22255)
posted 14 hours, 27 minutes ago
This is what I love about City fans. The only reasoned, measured, intelligent comments on any board on ja606.
Top of the list is Melton.
I was Blue Stocking on the old BBC 606 and tried to continue on here after its demise but it got too vitriolic and pointless.
There might be only a few left, to keep the flag flying but It’ll be a privilege to be here again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, paulspowerleftfoot and LQ are just delightful people.
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As I say, vitriolic and pointless.
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posted on 21/1/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
Reports suggest the more expensive the ticket, the more likely fans leave early which probably suggests that people who pay top dollar and are frustrated and angry by what they have seen leave, especially when they haven't been entertained.
Germany doesn't appear to have this problem, where ticket prices are much lower.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
What reports?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reports on why fans leave early. I've read a few over the past few years.
What is it that doesn't make sense to you? You don't believe there is a correlation between how much you pay and how angry you get at what value you're getting?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I don’t.
I also think there’s a reverse argument to say that the less you pay for your ticket, the easier you’d find it to decide to leave early.
Feel free to share any evidence you have because what you’ve said makes little sense imo.
posted on 21/1/20
A fair few left before the end v QPR in 2012, probably the impending disappointment was too much to bear.
I bet there was a scramble to get back in when they heard the cheers when Edin made it 2-2
posted on 21/1/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
Reports suggest the more expensive the ticket, the more likely fans leave early which probably suggests that people who pay top dollar and are frustrated and angry by what they have seen leave, especially when they haven't been entertained.
Germany doesn't appear to have this problem, where ticket prices are much lower.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
What reports?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reports on why fans leave early. I've read a few over the past few years.
What is it that doesn't make sense to you? You don't believe there is a correlation between how much you pay and how angry you get at what value you're getting?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I don’t.
I also think there’s a reverse argument to say that the less you pay for your ticket, the easier you’d find it to decide to leave early.
Feel free to share any evidence you have because what you’ve said makes little sense imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was one of the articles I remember reading.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/nov/09/english-football-early-leaving-syndrome
posted on 21/1/20
So no actual evidence then, and indeed early in the article it seems contradict your claim.
posted on 21/1/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
So no actual evidence then, and indeed early in the article it seems contradict your claim.
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I didnt make the claim. I stated what it said.
Did you read the article?
"Paradoxically, the more expensive the ticket, the likelier the early leaver".
I didn't say there was evidence. I said the reports I read suggested it.
posted on 21/1/20
I know.
I was just reiterating that there’s no evidence, so
I haven’t changed my mind that it makes little sense.
And yes, I read it. See here:
“First of all early leaver syndrome, when it does occasionally crop up in Germany, takes place only in the luxury, expensive seats, whereas at Anfield the departees took part in a more general trudge.”
Contradicts the point.
posted on 21/1/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
I know.
I was just reiterating that there’s no evidence, so
I haven’t changed my mind that it makes little sense.
And yes, I read it. See here:
“First of all early leaver syndrome, when it does occasionally crop up in Germany, takes place only in the luxury, expensive seats, whereas at Anfield the departees took part in a more general trudge.”
Contradicts the point.
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I don't believe Liverpool had much luxury seats at the time the article was written. That has since changed so it would be interesting to see if there has been a change there.
posted on 21/1/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
I know.
I was just reiterating that there’s no evidence, so
I haven’t changed my mind that it makes little sense.
And yes, I read it. See here:
“First of all early leaver syndrome, when it does occasionally crop up in Germany, takes place only in the luxury, expensive seats, whereas at Anfield the departees took part in a more general trudge.”
Contradicts the point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't believe Liverpool had much luxury seats at the time the article was written. That has since changed so it would be interesting to see if there has been a change there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’d be interesting to see if there’s an ounce of truth in the claim, full stop.
I could get on board with the idea that the corporate seats are more likely to see people swan off to the bar sooner than the normal folk may choose to go home, but that would be different of course.
posted on 21/1/20
I realise the thread has taken a different path, and that’s fair enough, but I wasn’t so much wondering why people would leave a game 5-10 minutes before the end (which happens irrespective of whether their team is winning, drawing, or losing).
I was more wondering about why people would leave much earlier in a game based solely on the reason that their team were getting comprehensively beaten at that moment in time.
The example I gave (for example) - Villa fans were seen leaving at 2-0 (after 25 minutes) and many more at 3-0 (after 28 minutes).
posted on 23/1/20
Ripley,
It must be the drinking water in Manchester! It's not just a Man City problem. The United fans were booing at half-time and most of them were gone when the score was 2-0.
posted on 23/1/20
This is what I love about City fans. The only reasoned, measured, intelligent comments on any board on ja606.
Top of the list is Melton.
I was Blue Stocking on the old BBC 606 and tried to continue on here after its demise but it got too vitriolic and pointless.
There might be only a few left, to keep the flag flying but It’ll be a privilege to be here again.
posted on 24/1/20
Every opposition supporter of a losing club in finals at Wembley vanish long before the trophy is presented. Modern fans are not very gracious.
posted on 24/1/20
comment by Blue Stocking (U22255)
posted 14 hours, 27 minutes ago
This is what I love about City fans. The only reasoned, measured, intelligent comments on any board on ja606.
Top of the list is Melton.
I was Blue Stocking on the old BBC 606 and tried to continue on here after its demise but it got too vitriolic and pointless.
There might be only a few left, to keep the flag flying but It’ll be a privilege to be here again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, paulspowerleftfoot and LQ are just delightful people.
posted on 24/1/20
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posted on 24/1/20
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 3 minutes ago
When I was ST holder at Leeds a man next to me always left with 10 mins to go. Missed some amazing finishes.
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A couple of guys that sat near me at OT for many years were two brothers, one would leave with 5 mins to go every game to get the car out and ready.
Think of the goals he missed - I'd rather have been there for it and sat in traffic for another hour.
posted on 24/1/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Blue Stocking (U22255)
posted 14 hours, 27 minutes ago
This is what I love about City fans. The only reasoned, measured, intelligent comments on any board on ja606.
Top of the list is Melton.
I was Blue Stocking on the old BBC 606 and tried to continue on here after its demise but it got too vitriolic and pointless.
There might be only a few left, to keep the flag flying but It’ll be a privilege to be here again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, paulspowerleftfoot and LQ are just delightful people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I say, vitriolic and pointless.
posted on 24/1/20
comment by Blue Stocking (U22255)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Blue Stocking (U22255)
posted 14 hours, 27 minutes ago
This is what I love about City fans. The only reasoned, measured, intelligent comments on any board on ja606.
Top of the list is Melton.
I was Blue Stocking on the old BBC 606 and tried to continue on here after its demise but it got too vitriolic and pointless.
There might be only a few left, to keep the flag flying but It’ll be a privilege to be here again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, paulspowerleftfoot and LQ are just delightful people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I say, vitriolic and pointless.
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What is vitriolic here?
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