Unfortunately I do not think the demand for electricity can be met by renewable energy
Not right now Frederic, but renewables are growing rapidly. But if you are talking about meeting demand for EV's, EV's will actually be part of the solution, than part of the problem.
The sale of petrol and diesel or petrol and diesel cars? Its another government racket, just like the TV licence.
comment by Frederic Daquin (U1734)
posted 8 hours, 26 minutes ago
Unfortunately I do not think the demand for electricity can be met by renewable energy
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Battery electric vehicles might be a great way to stabilise the grid. As 90% of the time vehicles are sitting doing nothing, they could be plugged in and be used as a means of stabilising the power produced by renewables.
Hobo is correct, and why people thinking we havn't got enough power for all these electric vehicles, are not understanding how the world especially energy and how we use it is changing.
I like the idea but not 100% convinced. Imagine everyone in the country charging their vehicles overnight as most would for use the next day, it would be very difficult to meet that demand taking into account the unreliable nature of wind/solar etc. Energy prices will certainly be going up by a lot.
Federick, There is something called peak power. that is the maximum electricity this country would need, and those times are actually quite rare and short lived. Like everyone turning on the kettle at half time for example. But power needs to be available for such times.
So most the time we have more than enough power for our normal everyday activities. At night much of that power generation is not needed, power station run on idle, Wind turbines turned off. It is horribly inefficient and does not make the most out our grid system.
EV's will actually use that power, and as Hobo pointed out, during peak times be able to support the grid ( some research going on with that in mind now we seem to have settled on CCS)
The last thing about electricity is unlike petrol we can make our own through Solar. and there are many initiatives happening, to utilise neighbourhood solar, so energy generation is shared.
I could go on. But like I said most people have no idea of the energy revolution that is coming, and EV's play a massive part in that.
I am just going by my dad's point of view as he was tasked with meeting the demand throughout the country. It was his job before he retired. Wind/solar were a real ball ache in his experience. I will raise the point of V2G with him next time but think he already showed his scepticism on it.
Thoughts on driverless cars? Seems to have quietened down a bit on that front. Not sure there is the desire for fully autonomous vehicles at the moment, but it may just be the case that parts of the technology being adopted over time which then naturally leads on to full autonomy.
Wind power has come a long way. It is one of the cheapest forms of electricity generation, and is making up more and more of out grid. another large offshore wind farm being built as we speak. And modern turbines can generate a lot of power.
Vehicle to grid will happen, CCS does not allow this at the moment, but Chademo does, and is being used in Japan. So it will come.
It would be interesting to chat with your dad, he would offer some interesting insights.
Oh, as for driverless cars, they are coming, and a lot sooner than people think.
They are inevitable, and will change the way we view owning cars.
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 9 minutes ago
Oh, as for driverless cars, they are coming, and a lot sooner than people think.
They are inevitable, and will change the way we view owning cars.
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In theory and in an ideal world. It is a much bigger step than going to electric vehicles though. It may only take one stumbling block to put the general public off for good. Most likely relating to the perception of safety (they may be statistically safer but it's perception that counts for people).
Also people just like having their own vehicle and the independence it brings.
Also, a large percentage of the country is rural. I do not think it is possible for technology to navigate some of the roads and conditions in rural Scotland. And again where is the need in rural areas?
So yes it will come eventually, public transport in the near future, which may give the public trust. It will likely only be over limited geographies, where it is beneficial.
I think you make some fair points Frederic. And automation is not going to happen overnight, it will probably have to prove itself in some country (probably America) and then prove itself in small areas over here.
One thing I will say, I recently watched footage of the information gathered by a Tesla as it drove along. It didn't seem to missing a thing, pedestrians, cars, stop lights and signs.
The Ai governing it now has over 3 billion miles of real world data, and it is learning very quickly. People will be apprehensive, but that is mainly because they do not understand the technology behind it.
Barry with serious comments AND comes off looking educated
I feel like I've been Barry'd, but different
Barry
Holland WTF are you going on about?
Proper cycle infrastructure + electric bikes > everything else (in cities)
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 27 minutes ago
Holland WTF are you going on about?
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Frederic, AKA Barry, is known for posting absurd comments. This is widely known by many posters, but not everyone, and when these posters reply to Barry's comment they have been Barry'd
Ok, but for once he wasn't being so absurd. Even if he was trying to be
We are in the darkest corner of the website. No one reads comments here. I can get away with posting something relatively sensible and it not having an unwanted positive effect on my reputation.
comment by Frederic Daquin (U1734)
posted 45 seconds ago
We are in the darkest corner of the website. No one reads comments here. I can get away with posting something relatively sensible and it not having an unwanted positive effect on my reputation.
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secret is safe with me
Amigawolf what are your thoughts on my solar powered cooling suit to enable people to cycle in hot countries where otherwise it would be unbearable? It can also be powered by a dynamo or turbine on your bike
Frederic I think it's a great idea would love to see you take it to the dragons den
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 18 hours, 21 minutes ago
Barry with serious commentsAND comes off looking educated
I feel like I've been Barry'd, but different
Barry
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Barry is the most intelligent person on this site.
Apparently the ban could come in even sooner. With 2032 a possibility.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51474769
Also, as much as I like to keep up with Electric cars, and the tech behind them. I was wondering if people would like me to carry on posting news on the PS4 section?
Or would you prefer me to keep it just PS4, and forget the EV stuff?
Keep it to just EV and forget the PS4 stuff.
comment by Ollie Crankshaw (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
Keep it to just EV and forget the PS4 stuff.
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posted on 5/2/20
Unfortunately I do not think the demand for electricity can be met by renewable energy
posted on 5/2/20
Not right now Frederic, but renewables are growing rapidly. But if you are talking about meeting demand for EV's, EV's will actually be part of the solution, than part of the problem.
posted on 5/2/20
The sale of petrol and diesel or petrol and diesel cars? Its another government racket, just like the TV licence.
posted on 5/2/20
comment by Frederic Daquin (U1734)
posted 8 hours, 26 minutes ago
Unfortunately I do not think the demand for electricity can be met by renewable energy
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Battery electric vehicles might be a great way to stabilise the grid. As 90% of the time vehicles are sitting doing nothing, they could be plugged in and be used as a means of stabilising the power produced by renewables.
posted on 6/2/20
Hobo is correct, and why people thinking we havn't got enough power for all these electric vehicles, are not understanding how the world especially energy and how we use it is changing.
posted on 6/2/20
I like the idea but not 100% convinced. Imagine everyone in the country charging their vehicles overnight as most would for use the next day, it would be very difficult to meet that demand taking into account the unreliable nature of wind/solar etc. Energy prices will certainly be going up by a lot.
posted on 6/2/20
Federick, There is something called peak power. that is the maximum electricity this country would need, and those times are actually quite rare and short lived. Like everyone turning on the kettle at half time for example. But power needs to be available for such times.
So most the time we have more than enough power for our normal everyday activities. At night much of that power generation is not needed, power station run on idle, Wind turbines turned off. It is horribly inefficient and does not make the most out our grid system.
EV's will actually use that power, and as Hobo pointed out, during peak times be able to support the grid ( some research going on with that in mind now we seem to have settled on CCS)
The last thing about electricity is unlike petrol we can make our own through Solar. and there are many initiatives happening, to utilise neighbourhood solar, so energy generation is shared.
I could go on. But like I said most people have no idea of the energy revolution that is coming, and EV's play a massive part in that.
posted on 6/2/20
I am just going by my dad's point of view as he was tasked with meeting the demand throughout the country. It was his job before he retired. Wind/solar were a real ball ache in his experience. I will raise the point of V2G with him next time but think he already showed his scepticism on it.
Thoughts on driverless cars? Seems to have quietened down a bit on that front. Not sure there is the desire for fully autonomous vehicles at the moment, but it may just be the case that parts of the technology being adopted over time which then naturally leads on to full autonomy.
posted on 6/2/20
Wind power has come a long way. It is one of the cheapest forms of electricity generation, and is making up more and more of out grid. another large offshore wind farm being built as we speak. And modern turbines can generate a lot of power.
Vehicle to grid will happen, CCS does not allow this at the moment, but Chademo does, and is being used in Japan. So it will come.
It would be interesting to chat with your dad, he would offer some interesting insights.
posted on 6/2/20
Oh, as for driverless cars, they are coming, and a lot sooner than people think.
They are inevitable, and will change the way we view owning cars.
posted on 6/2/20
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 9 minutes ago
Oh, as for driverless cars, they are coming, and a lot sooner than people think.
They are inevitable, and will change the way we view owning cars.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In theory and in an ideal world. It is a much bigger step than going to electric vehicles though. It may only take one stumbling block to put the general public off for good. Most likely relating to the perception of safety (they may be statistically safer but it's perception that counts for people).
Also people just like having their own vehicle and the independence it brings.
Also, a large percentage of the country is rural. I do not think it is possible for technology to navigate some of the roads and conditions in rural Scotland. And again where is the need in rural areas?
So yes it will come eventually, public transport in the near future, which may give the public trust. It will likely only be over limited geographies, where it is beneficial.
posted on 6/2/20
I think you make some fair points Frederic. And automation is not going to happen overnight, it will probably have to prove itself in some country (probably America) and then prove itself in small areas over here.
One thing I will say, I recently watched footage of the information gathered by a Tesla as it drove along. It didn't seem to missing a thing, pedestrians, cars, stop lights and signs.
The Ai governing it now has over 3 billion miles of real world data, and it is learning very quickly. People will be apprehensive, but that is mainly because they do not understand the technology behind it.
posted on 6/2/20
Barry with serious comments AND comes off looking educated
I feel like I've been Barry'd, but different
Barry
posted on 6/2/20
Holland WTF are you going on about?
posted on 6/2/20
Proper cycle infrastructure + electric bikes > everything else (in cities)
posted on 6/2/20
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 27 minutes ago
Holland WTF are you going on about?
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Frederic, AKA Barry, is known for posting absurd comments. This is widely known by many posters, but not everyone, and when these posters reply to Barry's comment they have been Barry'd
posted on 6/2/20
Ok, but for once he wasn't being so absurd. Even if he was trying to be
posted on 6/2/20
We are in the darkest corner of the website. No one reads comments here. I can get away with posting something relatively sensible and it not having an unwanted positive effect on my reputation.
posted on 6/2/20
comment by Frederic Daquin (U1734)
posted 45 seconds ago
We are in the darkest corner of the website. No one reads comments here. I can get away with posting something relatively sensible and it not having an unwanted positive effect on my reputation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
secret is safe with me
posted on 6/2/20
Amigawolf what are your thoughts on my solar powered cooling suit to enable people to cycle in hot countries where otherwise it would be unbearable? It can also be powered by a dynamo or turbine on your bike
posted on 6/2/20
Frederic I think it's a great idea would love to see you take it to the dragons den
posted on 7/2/20
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 18 hours, 21 minutes ago
Barry with serious commentsAND comes off looking educated
I feel like I've been Barry'd, but different
Barry
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Barry is the most intelligent person on this site.
posted on 12/2/20
Apparently the ban could come in even sooner. With 2032 a possibility.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51474769
Also, as much as I like to keep up with Electric cars, and the tech behind them. I was wondering if people would like me to carry on posting news on the PS4 section?
Or would you prefer me to keep it just PS4, and forget the EV stuff?
posted on 12/2/20
Keep it to just EV and forget the PS4 stuff.
posted on 12/2/20
comment by Ollie Crankshaw (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
Keep it to just EV and forget the PS4 stuff.
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