Winston is a stain on the site and makes the final of cvnt of the year annually without fail. He will think I say he people know nothing about football because it gets said to him a lot. Dont see me writing it to the likes of Melton, Darren, Hengy, DJ or GT do ya? That's because they dont talk shiiiiiiiiiit.
So just to recap English football is at a low but they should all qualify the maximum possible in the CL as a minimum because theyre so well resourced, despite only one English club being in the top five richest, and then if they do go deep that's because European football is also at a low.
This is what youre bringing to the world wide web today?
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Winston is a stain on the site and makes the final of cvnt of the year annually without fail. He will think I say he people know nothing about football because it gets said to him a lot. Dont see me writing it to the likes of Melton, Darren, Hengy, DJ or GT do ya? That's because they dont talk shiiiiiiiiiit.
So just to recap English football is at a low but they should all qualify the maximum possible in the CL as a minimum because theyre so well resourced, despite only one English club being in the top five richest, and then if they do go deep that's because European football is also at a low.
This is what youre bringing to the world wide web today?
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Debatable list of people you mention there, Atleast a couple anyway. Again missing the point, the seeding system means most of the top 4 teams get much easier draws, meaning that they are up against teams that have far less resources, just look at your own group if you want clarification. Infact, for most of this years groups, the English teams (minus spurs group) would be the wealthiest. Are you going to prove otherwise? And none of our teams have to qualify through playoffs either.
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
I’m a stain on the site.
Says the guy who’s only answer to an alternative opinion is ‘you don’t understand the subject’, which happily ranges across football, politics and any other point of discussion you care to mention.
Says the guy who posts despicable comments about children’s mental health and mocking people who can’t have children.
I may irritate more people on here, but there’s no question that Robbing is a bigger ‘stain’ than me. Disgusting human being and the very definition of a keyboard warrior.
It is absolutely a fair point that qualification for the knock out stages means jack sheet in the CL anymore, due to the seeding system.
I think it makes the competition harder to win though.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 54 minutes ago
And remember kids if English team go deep in the CL again that's because all of European football is also on a downturn despite lots of teams being chock full of world class players
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No Ive never said that. Youve sarcastically embellished something and then applied it in the wrong context because youve been made to look silly again.
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Bump.
Both Robbing’s posts.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 minutes ago
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
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Talk about making things up - you just did- where did I say Liverpool were the weakthiest in Europe and in the prem ? I said in their group they probably are, along with every other English side bar spurs in the CL. You can dispute that if you want, but I doubt you’ll be successful.
As for ‘fitting in’ having brand new managers against you in the league for your big rivals (bar city) means they won’t be anywhere near developed to the degree as Liverpool, ergo advantage Liverpool, who klopp has had 4 seasons and 8 windows to get the way he wants. They’ll be lucky to have had 2. I didn’t say that makes them bad sides, especially against inferiority equipped smaller european sides.
Seeing that you seem to think new managers come in an immeasurably make teams great, how come klopp has taken 3+ years to win anything?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
I’m a stain on the site.
Says the guy who’s only answer to an alternative opinion is ‘you don’t understand the subject’, which happily ranges across football, politics and any other point of discussion you care to mention.
Says the guy who posts despicable comments about children’s mental health and mocking people who can’t have children.
I may irritate more people on here, but there’s no question that Robbing is a bigger ‘stain’ than me. Disgusting human being and the very definition of a keyboard warrior.
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He really is so blind. Wasn’t aware that he mocks people who can’t have kids, and mocks children’s mental health, but I’m not completely surprised.
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 minutes ago
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
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Talk about making things up - you just did- where did I say Liverpool were the weakthiest in Europe and in the prem ? I said in their group they probably are, along with every other English side bar spurs in the CL. You can dispute that if you want, but I doubt you’ll be successful.
As for ‘fitting in’ having brand new managers against you in the league for your big rivals (bar city) means they won’t be anywhere near developed to the degree as Liverpool, ergo advantage Liverpool, who klopp has had 4 seasons and 8 windows to get the way he wants. They’ll be lucky to have had 2. I didn’t say that makes them bad sides, especially against inferiority equipped smaller european sides.
Seeing that you seem to think new managers come in an immeasurably make teams great, how come klopp has taken 3+ years to win anything?
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You dudnt say it baz, I asked you a question.
Yes it has taken Klopp three years but we were rattling goals past big sides long before that. My point is that there is no hard and fast rule and youre dealing in absolutes.
I like you Baz, you seem a genuinely nice guy, but I cant accept what youre saying about the quality of opposition for a numver of reasons.
In truth I think youre looking at results and not football and ignoring reletivity. I must admit I do think this is because it's Liverpool as well. Ive literally never heard it before I dont think. The Barca side that merked Utd in the CL final was very good, it certainly wasnt the best Utd side Ive ever seen though. Milan beating us in 2006, certainly not the best Barca and Liverpool sides. City getting 100 piints, certainly not the best Chelsea, Liverpool or Spurs sides. I could go on quite easily.
Ive bever heard this stance before, maybe a touch with Leicester and even then I thought it was bollox.
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
I’m a stain on the site.
Says the guy who’s only answer to an alternative opinion is ‘you don’t understand the subject’, which happily ranges across football, politics and any other point of discussion you care to mention.
Says the guy who posts despicable comments about children’s mental health and mocking people who can’t have children.
I may irritate more people on here, but there’s no question that Robbing is a bigger ‘stain’ than me. Disgusting human being and the very definition of a keyboard warrior.
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He really is so blind. Wasn’t aware that he mocks people who can’t have kids, and mocks children’s mental health, but I’m not completely surprised.
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That’s only the start mate.
He’s done several things I would never, ever do.
Awful person.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 minutes ago
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
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Talk about making things up - you just did- where did I say Liverpool were the weakthiest in Europe and in the prem ? I said in their group they probably are, along with every other English side bar spurs in the CL. You can dispute that if you want, but I doubt you’ll be successful.
As for ‘fitting in’ having brand new managers against you in the league for your big rivals (bar city) means they won’t be anywhere near developed to the degree as Liverpool, ergo advantage Liverpool, who klopp has had 4 seasons and 8 windows to get the way he wants. They’ll be lucky to have had 2. I didn’t say that makes them bad sides, especially against inferiority equipped smaller european sides.
Seeing that you seem to think new managers come in an immeasurably make teams great, how come klopp has taken 3+ years to win anything?
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You dudnt say it baz, I asked you a question.
Yes it has taken Klopp three years but we were rattling goals past big sides long before that. My point is that there is no hard and fast rule and youre dealing in absolutes.
I like you Baz, you seem a genuinely nice guy, but I cant accept what youre saying about the quality of opposition for a numver of reasons.
In truth I think youre looking at results and not football and ignoring reletivity. I must admit I do think this is because it's Liverpool as well. Ive literally never heard it before I dont think. The Barca side that merked Utd in the CL final was very good, it certainly wasnt the best Utd side Ive ever seen though. Milan beating us in 2006, certainly not the best Barca and Liverpool sides. City getting 100 piints, certainly not the best Chelsea, Liverpool or Spurs sides. I could go on quite easily.
Ive bever heard this stance before, maybe a touch with Leicester and even then I thought it was bollox.
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Look I’m not trying to belittle Liverpool’s accomplishments, in the last year or so, they have a place in history and rightly so as there a lot to admire about the way the team plays and your manager who seems like a really decent guy (aswell as a brilliant manager). I’m not even coming from an ‘I hate Liverpool place like some might do’, I’m just simply looking at the environmental factors that led to you becoming very very good at the perfect time.
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 minutes ago
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
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Talk about making things up - you just did- where did I say Liverpool were the weakthiest in Europe and in the prem ? I said in their group they probably are, along with every other English side bar spurs in the CL. You can dispute that if you want, but I doubt you’ll be successful.
As for ‘fitting in’ having brand new managers against you in the league for your big rivals (bar city) means they won’t be anywhere near developed to the degree as Liverpool, ergo advantage Liverpool, who klopp has had 4 seasons and 8 windows to get the way he wants. They’ll be lucky to have had 2. I didn’t say that makes them bad sides, especially against inferiority equipped smaller european sides.
Seeing that you seem to think new managers come in an immeasurably make teams great, how come klopp has taken 3+ years to win anything?
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You dudnt say it baz, I asked you a question.
Yes it has taken Klopp three years but we were rattling goals past big sides long before that. My point is that there is no hard and fast rule and youre dealing in absolutes.
I like you Baz, you seem a genuinely nice guy, but I cant accept what youre saying about the quality of opposition for a numver of reasons.
In truth I think youre looking at results and not football and ignoring reletivity. I must admit I do think this is because it's Liverpool as well. Ive literally never heard it before I dont think. The Barca side that merked Utd in the CL final was very good, it certainly wasnt the best Utd side Ive ever seen though. Milan beating us in 2006, certainly not the best Barca and Liverpool sides. City getting 100 piints, certainly not the best Chelsea, Liverpool or Spurs sides. I could go on quite easily.
Ive bever heard this stance before, maybe a touch with Leicester and even then I thought it was bollox.
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Look I’m not trying to belittle Liverpool’s accomplishments, in the last year or so, they have a place in history and rightly so as there a lot to admire about the way the team plays and your manager who seems like a really decent guy (aswell as a brilliant manager). I’m not even coming from an ‘I hate Liverpool place like some might do’, I’m just simply looking at the environmental factors that led to you becoming very very good at the perfect time.
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
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I can kind of accept that but after 100 points from 102, losing one game over two years in the league, back to back CL finals and literally beating every team we've faced at some point then Im finally at the point that I do think this team is special. I absolutely believe we'd give and side from history a bloody hard game.
We're setting records that have never been achieved. Better than Juve, PSG and Bayern who I feel are in far weaker leagues in comparison.
At what point do we say 'actually, they are that good'?
I'll try not to pick you up in it again but as said it does seem a new thing and as such a bit partisan in it's motivation.
Just as an aside someone told me the other day that Liverpool have it easier than PSG have ever had it in Ligue 1. Ever. PSG.
So if you wonder why I sometimes say some people on here are clueless there's an example of the motivation.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
Just as an aside someone told me the other day that Liverpool have it easier than PSG have ever had it in Ligue 1. Ever. PSG.
So if you wonder why I sometimes say some people on here are clueless there's an example of the motivation.
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Well that’s nonsense, Sounds like a wum.
Why can’t Liverpool be ‘that good’ but there also be a discussion about things that may be in their favour?
Every successful team requires some things to go their way.
Sometimes that is big things like keeping key players fit or a big rival falling away, sometimes it’s small things like luck in games.
Discussing things that go in teams’ favour doesn’t automatically mean the person raising the discussion is trying to belittle Liverpool’s achievements.
But course, that’s not the narrative that the ‘the world is against us’ Liverpool fans want, is it.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just as an aside someone told me the other day that Liverpool have it easier than PSG have ever had it in Ligue 1. Ever. PSG.
So if you wonder why I sometimes say some people on here are clueless there's an example of the motivation.
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You say it to most people who disagree with you.
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
Just as an aside someone told me the other day that Liverpool have it easier than PSG have ever had it in Ligue 1. Ever. PSG.
So if you wonder why I sometimes say some people on here are clueless there's an example of the motivation.
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Well that’s nonsense, Sounds like a wum.
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I think you were on the thread. Dunno, maybe.
I am a sucker for wums and trolls though. Bit better these days.
TCP, wahl, Winston, Liquid Genius.
I tend to try and stay away now though. There's still good debate to be had if you look for it.
I am many things, but a troll/wum I am not.
Robbing just can’t hold a debate with anyone he disagrees with, without losing his temper.
If Liverpool mange to win the CL as well as the obvious league then there's not much debate to be had as to whether they're great or not. An unbeaten season plus the CL? Well, up there with any former great teams.
Id love the situation where Liverpool would win everything ( my club excepted of course) for the next five years and finally watch some Nelly come here and give us: Next season will not be our season.
On second thoughts perish dat.....
Anybody but Liverpool. Preferably someone foreign.
What’s predictions for the next round?
Liverpool and city through, spurs and Chelsea could be tight, think Chelsea might go out.
Every season you can make out a case for why the winner won.
Last season we had Keita, Ox and Lallana out injured nearly all season and lost the league by a point.
If just one of these had been fit long enough then one of those draws would have been a win to give us the title by 2 points and we'd have been going for 2 in a row this season. This season its about Kompany, Laporte, new managers etc but none of this stuff is new to football. Its always been like this.
Its just a coping mechanism to help fans to cope with their rivals being successful.
*Gomez is our second best CB and he was injured nearly all last season.
Clearly we'd have won the league and City only took advantage of a weak league and a weakened Liverpool, no?
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 16 minutes ago
Every season you can make out a case for why the winner won.
Last season we had Keita, Ox and Lallana out injured nearly all season and lost the league by a point.
If just one of these had been fit long enough then one of those draws would have been a win to give us the title by 2 points and we'd have been going for 2 in a row this season. This season its about Kompany, Laporte, new managers etc but none of this stuff is new to football. Its always been like this.
Its just a coping mechanism to help fans to cope with their rivals being successful.
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Not sure those 3 players make that much difference for you. Now, if it had been vvd, Allison and salah.....
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posted on 9/2/20
Winston is a stain on the site and makes the final of cvnt of the year annually without fail. He will think I say he people know nothing about football because it gets said to him a lot. Dont see me writing it to the likes of Melton, Darren, Hengy, DJ or GT do ya? That's because they dont talk shiiiiiiiiiit.
So just to recap English football is at a low but they should all qualify the maximum possible in the CL as a minimum because theyre so well resourced, despite only one English club being in the top five richest, and then if they do go deep that's because European football is also at a low.
This is what youre bringing to the world wide web today?
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Winston is a stain on the site and makes the final of cvnt of the year annually without fail. He will think I say he people know nothing about football because it gets said to him a lot. Dont see me writing it to the likes of Melton, Darren, Hengy, DJ or GT do ya? That's because they dont talk shiiiiiiiiiit.
So just to recap English football is at a low but they should all qualify the maximum possible in the CL as a minimum because theyre so well resourced, despite only one English club being in the top five richest, and then if they do go deep that's because European football is also at a low.
This is what youre bringing to the world wide web today?
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Debatable list of people you mention there, Atleast a couple anyway. Again missing the point, the seeding system means most of the top 4 teams get much easier draws, meaning that they are up against teams that have far less resources, just look at your own group if you want clarification. Infact, for most of this years groups, the English teams (minus spurs group) would be the wealthiest. Are you going to prove otherwise? And none of our teams have to qualify through playoffs either.
posted on 9/2/20
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
posted on 9/2/20
I’m a stain on the site.
Says the guy who’s only answer to an alternative opinion is ‘you don’t understand the subject’, which happily ranges across football, politics and any other point of discussion you care to mention.
Says the guy who posts despicable comments about children’s mental health and mocking people who can’t have children.
I may irritate more people on here, but there’s no question that Robbing is a bigger ‘stain’ than me. Disgusting human being and the very definition of a keyboard warrior.
posted on 9/2/20
It is absolutely a fair point that qualification for the knock out stages means jack sheet in the CL anymore, due to the seeding system.
I think it makes the competition harder to win though.
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 54 minutes ago
And remember kids if English team go deep in the CL again that's because all of European football is also on a downturn despite lots of teams being chock full of world class players
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No Ive never said that. Youve sarcastically embellished something and then applied it in the wrong context because youve been made to look silly again.
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Bump.
Both Robbing’s posts.
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 minutes ago
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
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Talk about making things up - you just did- where did I say Liverpool were the weakthiest in Europe and in the prem ? I said in their group they probably are, along with every other English side bar spurs in the CL. You can dispute that if you want, but I doubt you’ll be successful.
As for ‘fitting in’ having brand new managers against you in the league for your big rivals (bar city) means they won’t be anywhere near developed to the degree as Liverpool, ergo advantage Liverpool, who klopp has had 4 seasons and 8 windows to get the way he wants. They’ll be lucky to have had 2. I didn’t say that makes them bad sides, especially against inferiority equipped smaller european sides.
Seeing that you seem to think new managers come in an immeasurably make teams great, how come klopp has taken 3+ years to win anything?
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
I’m a stain on the site.
Says the guy who’s only answer to an alternative opinion is ‘you don’t understand the subject’, which happily ranges across football, politics and any other point of discussion you care to mention.
Says the guy who posts despicable comments about children’s mental health and mocking people who can’t have children.
I may irritate more people on here, but there’s no question that Robbing is a bigger ‘stain’ than me. Disgusting human being and the very definition of a keyboard warrior.
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He really is so blind. Wasn’t aware that he mocks people who can’t have kids, and mocks children’s mental health, but I’m not completely surprised.
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 minutes ago
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
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Talk about making things up - you just did- where did I say Liverpool were the weakthiest in Europe and in the prem ? I said in their group they probably are, along with every other English side bar spurs in the CL. You can dispute that if you want, but I doubt you’ll be successful.
As for ‘fitting in’ having brand new managers against you in the league for your big rivals (bar city) means they won’t be anywhere near developed to the degree as Liverpool, ergo advantage Liverpool, who klopp has had 4 seasons and 8 windows to get the way he wants. They’ll be lucky to have had 2. I didn’t say that makes them bad sides, especially against inferiority equipped smaller european sides.
Seeing that you seem to think new managers come in an immeasurably make teams great, how come klopp has taken 3+ years to win anything?
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You dudnt say it baz, I asked you a question.
Yes it has taken Klopp three years but we were rattling goals past big sides long before that. My point is that there is no hard and fast rule and youre dealing in absolutes.
I like you Baz, you seem a genuinely nice guy, but I cant accept what youre saying about the quality of opposition for a numver of reasons.
In truth I think youre looking at results and not football and ignoring reletivity. I must admit I do think this is because it's Liverpool as well. Ive literally never heard it before I dont think. The Barca side that merked Utd in the CL final was very good, it certainly wasnt the best Utd side Ive ever seen though. Milan beating us in 2006, certainly not the best Barca and Liverpool sides. City getting 100 piints, certainly not the best Chelsea, Liverpool or Spurs sides. I could go on quite easily.
Ive bever heard this stance before, maybe a touch with Leicester and even then I thought it was bollox.
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
I’m a stain on the site.
Says the guy who’s only answer to an alternative opinion is ‘you don’t understand the subject’, which happily ranges across football, politics and any other point of discussion you care to mention.
Says the guy who posts despicable comments about children’s mental health and mocking people who can’t have children.
I may irritate more people on here, but there’s no question that Robbing is a bigger ‘stain’ than me. Disgusting human being and the very definition of a keyboard warrior.
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He really is so blind. Wasn’t aware that he mocks people who can’t have kids, and mocks children’s mental health, but I’m not completely surprised.
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That’s only the start mate.
He’s done several things I would never, ever do.
Awful person.
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 minutes ago
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
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Talk about making things up - you just did- where did I say Liverpool were the weakthiest in Europe and in the prem ? I said in their group they probably are, along with every other English side bar spurs in the CL. You can dispute that if you want, but I doubt you’ll be successful.
As for ‘fitting in’ having brand new managers against you in the league for your big rivals (bar city) means they won’t be anywhere near developed to the degree as Liverpool, ergo advantage Liverpool, who klopp has had 4 seasons and 8 windows to get the way he wants. They’ll be lucky to have had 2. I didn’t say that makes them bad sides, especially against inferiority equipped smaller european sides.
Seeing that you seem to think new managers come in an immeasurably make teams great, how come klopp has taken 3+ years to win anything?
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You dudnt say it baz, I asked you a question.
Yes it has taken Klopp three years but we were rattling goals past big sides long before that. My point is that there is no hard and fast rule and youre dealing in absolutes.
I like you Baz, you seem a genuinely nice guy, but I cant accept what youre saying about the quality of opposition for a numver of reasons.
In truth I think youre looking at results and not football and ignoring reletivity. I must admit I do think this is because it's Liverpool as well. Ive literally never heard it before I dont think. The Barca side that merked Utd in the CL final was very good, it certainly wasnt the best Utd side Ive ever seen though. Milan beating us in 2006, certainly not the best Barca and Liverpool sides. City getting 100 piints, certainly not the best Chelsea, Liverpool or Spurs sides. I could go on quite easily.
Ive bever heard this stance before, maybe a touch with Leicester and even then I thought it was bollox.
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Look I’m not trying to belittle Liverpool’s accomplishments, in the last year or so, they have a place in history and rightly so as there a lot to admire about the way the team plays and your manager who seems like a really decent guy (aswell as a brilliant manager). I’m not even coming from an ‘I hate Liverpool place like some might do’, I’m just simply looking at the environmental factors that led to you becoming very very good at the perfect time.
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
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comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 minutes ago
So are Liverpool the wealthiest side in the Prem and Europe then and if not how does this all fit in with English teams not being very good (along with all of world football)?
I mean I don't want to sit here and suggest you make things up as you go along but you're making it really fvcking hard not to
Tbf I remember you saying all this a couple of seasons ago when City got 100 points and romped the league so at least you're consistent.
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Talk about making things up - you just did- where did I say Liverpool were the weakthiest in Europe and in the prem ? I said in their group they probably are, along with every other English side bar spurs in the CL. You can dispute that if you want, but I doubt you’ll be successful.
As for ‘fitting in’ having brand new managers against you in the league for your big rivals (bar city) means they won’t be anywhere near developed to the degree as Liverpool, ergo advantage Liverpool, who klopp has had 4 seasons and 8 windows to get the way he wants. They’ll be lucky to have had 2. I didn’t say that makes them bad sides, especially against inferiority equipped smaller european sides.
Seeing that you seem to think new managers come in an immeasurably make teams great, how come klopp has taken 3+ years to win anything?
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You dudnt say it baz, I asked you a question.
Yes it has taken Klopp three years but we were rattling goals past big sides long before that. My point is that there is no hard and fast rule and youre dealing in absolutes.
I like you Baz, you seem a genuinely nice guy, but I cant accept what youre saying about the quality of opposition for a numver of reasons.
In truth I think youre looking at results and not football and ignoring reletivity. I must admit I do think this is because it's Liverpool as well. Ive literally never heard it before I dont think. The Barca side that merked Utd in the CL final was very good, it certainly wasnt the best Utd side Ive ever seen though. Milan beating us in 2006, certainly not the best Barca and Liverpool sides. City getting 100 piints, certainly not the best Chelsea, Liverpool or Spurs sides. I could go on quite easily.
Ive bever heard this stance before, maybe a touch with Leicester and even then I thought it was bollox.
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Look I’m not trying to belittle Liverpool’s accomplishments, in the last year or so, they have a place in history and rightly so as there a lot to admire about the way the team plays and your manager who seems like a really decent guy (aswell as a brilliant manager). I’m not even coming from an ‘I hate Liverpool place like some might do’, I’m just simply looking at the environmental factors that led to you becoming very very good at the perfect time.
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
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I can kind of accept that but after 100 points from 102, losing one game over two years in the league, back to back CL finals and literally beating every team we've faced at some point then Im finally at the point that I do think this team is special. I absolutely believe we'd give and side from history a bloody hard game.
We're setting records that have never been achieved. Better than Juve, PSG and Bayern who I feel are in far weaker leagues in comparison.
At what point do we say 'actually, they are that good'?
I'll try not to pick you up in it again but as said it does seem a new thing and as such a bit partisan in it's motivation.
posted on 9/2/20
Just as an aside someone told me the other day that Liverpool have it easier than PSG have ever had it in Ligue 1. Ever. PSG.
So if you wonder why I sometimes say some people on here are clueless there's an example of the motivation.
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
Just as an aside someone told me the other day that Liverpool have it easier than PSG have ever had it in Ligue 1. Ever. PSG.
So if you wonder why I sometimes say some people on here are clueless there's an example of the motivation.
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Well that’s nonsense, Sounds like a wum.
posted on 9/2/20
Why can’t Liverpool be ‘that good’ but there also be a discussion about things that may be in their favour?
Every successful team requires some things to go their way.
Sometimes that is big things like keeping key players fit or a big rival falling away, sometimes it’s small things like luck in games.
Discussing things that go in teams’ favour doesn’t automatically mean the person raising the discussion is trying to belittle Liverpool’s achievements.
But course, that’s not the narrative that the ‘the world is against us’ Liverpool fans want, is it.
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just as an aside someone told me the other day that Liverpool have it easier than PSG have ever had it in Ligue 1. Ever. PSG.
So if you wonder why I sometimes say some people on here are clueless there's an example of the motivation.
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You say it to most people who disagree with you.
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
Just as an aside someone told me the other day that Liverpool have it easier than PSG have ever had it in Ligue 1. Ever. PSG.
So if you wonder why I sometimes say some people on here are clueless there's an example of the motivation.
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Well that’s nonsense, Sounds like a wum.
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I think you were on the thread. Dunno, maybe.
I am a sucker for wums and trolls though. Bit better these days.
TCP, wahl, Winston, Liquid Genius.
I tend to try and stay away now though. There's still good debate to be had if you look for it.
posted on 9/2/20
I am many things, but a troll/wum I am not.
Robbing just can’t hold a debate with anyone he disagrees with, without losing his temper.
posted on 9/2/20
If Liverpool mange to win the CL as well as the obvious league then there's not much debate to be had as to whether they're great or not. An unbeaten season plus the CL? Well, up there with any former great teams.
posted on 9/2/20
Id love the situation where Liverpool would win everything ( my club excepted of course) for the next five years and finally watch some Nelly come here and give us: Next season will not be our season.
On second thoughts perish dat.....
posted on 9/2/20
Anybody but Liverpool. Preferably someone foreign.
posted on 9/2/20
What’s predictions for the next round?
Liverpool and city through, spurs and Chelsea could be tight, think Chelsea might go out.
posted on 9/2/20
Every season you can make out a case for why the winner won.
Last season we had Keita, Ox and Lallana out injured nearly all season and lost the league by a point.
If just one of these had been fit long enough then one of those draws would have been a win to give us the title by 2 points and we'd have been going for 2 in a row this season. This season its about Kompany, Laporte, new managers etc but none of this stuff is new to football. Its always been like this.
Its just a coping mechanism to help fans to cope with their rivals being successful.
posted on 9/2/20
*Gomez is our second best CB and he was injured nearly all last season.
Clearly we'd have won the league and City only took advantage of a weak league and a weakened Liverpool, no?
posted on 9/2/20
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 16 minutes ago
Every season you can make out a case for why the winner won.
Last season we had Keita, Ox and Lallana out injured nearly all season and lost the league by a point.
If just one of these had been fit long enough then one of those draws would have been a win to give us the title by 2 points and we'd have been going for 2 in a row this season. This season its about Kompany, Laporte, new managers etc but none of this stuff is new to football. Its always been like this.
Its just a coping mechanism to help fans to cope with their rivals being successful.
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Not sure those 3 players make that much difference for you. Now, if it had been vvd, Allison and salah.....
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