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posted on 21/2/20

comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 1 minute ago
I have more bad news for you United supporters.

Your beloved football club would actually be 11th in the league without VAR. That's 4 positions lower than your current standing. Sucks huh!

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Of course it doesn't suck. VAR put us in our rightful place.
More bad news for you really.

posted on 21/2/20

comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Navigator (U22280)
posted 26 seconds ago
Fullbacks when defending deep in their own half will drop in line with the centre backs, wingbacks won't.
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This is false statement. I remember Ashley Young defending deep as a fullback and clearly saw a back 5 at times when United needed to defend.

It also wouldn't make sense to ignore defending the space behind you as a wingback since they occupy the same position as fullbacks when defending. Wingbacks operate the entire sides and are usually more apt in attacking than defending, just like Andy and Trend.
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Trent and Robertson are basically wingbacks deployed in a fullback system as they have three midfielders to cover for them.

posted on 21/2/20

Banter aside, I'd like to wish you all a good weekend!

posted on 21/2/20

comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 7 minutes ago
I have more bad news for you United supporters.

Your beloved football club would actually be 11th in the league without VAR. That's 4 positions lower than your current standing. Sucks huh!

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Expected points table is where it's at.

posted on 21/2/20

comment by Navigator (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Navigator (U22280)
posted 26 seconds ago
Fullbacks when defending deep in their own half will drop in line with the centre backs, wingbacks won't.
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This is false statement. I remember Ashley Young defending deep as a fullback and clearly saw a back 5 at times when United needed to defend.

It also wouldn't make sense to ignore defending the space behind you as a wingback since they occupy the same position as fullbacks when defending. Wingbacks operate the entire sides and are usually more apt in attacking than defending, just like Andy and Trend.
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Trent and Robertson are basically wingbacks deployed in a fullback system as they have three midfielders to cover for them.
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The two cb's cover for the fullbacks. As a result the commentators find some tim to applaud the speed or recovery of the cb's. Henderson/Fabinho sometimes slot in between the cb's, giving the cb's less ground to cover. But both fullbacks are caught sometimes. When this happens the cb's spring to action, not the midfielders.

posted on 21/2/20

comment by Navigator (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 7 minutes ago
I have more bad news for you United supporters.

Your beloved football club would actually be 11th in the league without VAR. That's 4 positions lower than your current standing. Sucks huh!

https://gmsrp.cachefly.net/images/20/02/20/88ef66005b85a4311fae2aa4741a687e/690.jpg
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Expected points table is where it's at.
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Perhaps. But surely we can put the LiVARpool meme to bed with this knowledge? Of course Liverpool benefited with 4 extra points, but as you can see, the difference between 1 and 2 is still significant. Meaning the title will be won on own effort.

posted on 21/2/20

comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Navigator (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Navigator (U22280)
posted 26 seconds ago
Fullbacks when defending deep in their own half will drop in line with the centre backs, wingbacks won't.
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This is false statement. I remember Ashley Young defending deep as a fullback and clearly saw a back 5 at times when United needed to defend.

It also wouldn't make sense to ignore defending the space behind you as a wingback since they occupy the same position as fullbacks when defending. Wingbacks operate the entire sides and are usually more apt in attacking than defending, just like Andy and Trend.
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Trent and Robertson are basically wingbacks deployed in a fullback system as they have three midfielders to cover for them.
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The two cb's cover for the fullbacks. As a result the commentators find some tim to applaud the speed or recovery of the cb's. Henderson/Fabinho sometimes slot in between the cb's, giving the cb's less ground to cover. But both fullbacks are caught sometimes. When this happens the cb's spring to action, not the midfielders.
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So you admit they're fullbacks?

And yes technically the centre backs do cover for the fullbacks as the midfield un turn covers for them.

posted on 21/2/20

comment by Navigator (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Navigator (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Navigator (U22280)
posted 26 seconds ago
Fullbacks when defending deep in their own half will drop in line with the centre backs, wingbacks won't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is false statement. I remember Ashley Young defending deep as a fullback and clearly saw a back 5 at times when United needed to defend.

It also wouldn't make sense to ignore defending the space behind you as a wingback since they occupy the same position as fullbacks when defending. Wingbacks operate the entire sides and are usually more apt in attacking than defending, just like Andy and Trend.
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Trent and Robertson are basically wingbacks deployed in a fullback system as they have three midfielders to cover for them.
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The two cb's cover for the fullbacks. As a result the commentators find some tim to applaud the speed or recovery of the cb's. Henderson/Fabinho sometimes slot in between the cb's, giving the cb's less ground to cover. But both fullbacks are caught sometimes. When this happens the cb's spring to action, not the midfielders.
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So you admit they're fullbacks?

And yes technically the centre backs do cover for the fullbacks as the midfield un turn covers for them.
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No, I don't. it was both a general observation and laziness on my part. Only one midfielder slots in between vvd and Gomez, not Always though. The rest of the midfield is busy with pressing, finding/making space and sorting out passing lanes. They don't have the speed to 'cover' for the fullbacks since it's usually a speed merchant who gets the ball on the sides, bypassing the midfield or a high ball that is usually intercepted by one of the cb's. People think the midfield helps them out being solid and to an extend this is true, but the cb's do the real work. Underrated imo. The cb's also make it possible for the midfield to press more efficient by moving close to the midfield line, narrowing the space between the players and so there is less space to cover/press. The danger comes from throughballs, highballs and dribbles.

posted on 21/2/20

comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 58 minutes ago
I have more bad news for you United supporters.

Your beloved football club would actually be 11th in the league without VAR. That's 4 positions lower than your current standing. Sucks huh!

https://gmsrp.cachefly.net/images/20/02/20/88ef66005b85a4311fae2aa4741a687e/690.jpg
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How does it suck? You really are not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?

posted on 21/2/20

comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Liverpool play with two fullbacks, who are two of the best in they world, certainly from an attacking point of view. They are not wingbacks. Their roles are not those of wingbacks.

Thursday night we played with three centrebacks, and two wingbacks.

All of that is pretty clear, and entirely uncontroversial.
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Robertson and Alexander-Arnold are no wingbacks?Thanks for the big laugh. I guess lying to yourself gives a big comfort.
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Don’t you think it’s kinda funny that nobody in the football world refers to them or their roles as fullbacks?

Journalists? Pundits? Klopp?
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The world is lazy with it's terminology and don't feel the need to be accurate.
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Ah, that’s it, is it? *Everyone* else in the world is being lazy when they refer to TAA and Robertson’s roles as being those of fullbacks...

...despite the fact that they’ll refer to the likes of Doherty, Traore, Baldock, Yedlin and others variously as wingbacks?

posted on 21/2/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Very well and impressive? bit of a stretch

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Not at all. I was at the game and watched it play out first hand. The Chelsea wide men were forced inside and you had zero width and the fullbacks were pressed the moment they got it. How many times did Azpi lose it having to hit is aimlessly first time cos AWB was on him?
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I was also at the game. Bats missed sitters. We still scored two, one very dubious disallowed goals. And dominated for the most part. Azpi always loses it aimlessly crossing. Nothing to do with Utd

posted on 21/2/20

Don’t get it twisted, it was one poor game of football. We were poor but still dominated and should have won the game bar dodgy decisions and poor finishing.

posted on 22/2/20

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posted on 22/2/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Very well and impressive? bit of a stretch

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Not at all. I was at the game and watched it play out first hand. The Chelsea wide men were forced inside and you had zero width and the fullbacks were pressed the moment they got it. How many times did Azpi lose it having to hit is aimlessly first time cos AWB was on him?
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I was also at the game. Bats missed sitters. We still scored two, one very dubious disallowed goals. And dominated for the most part. Azpi always loses it aimlessly crossing. Nothing to do with Utd
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I'm not talking about his crossing. I'm talking about when he got the ball from your CBs or CM. And you did have a couple of chances but on the whole were really flat and didn't have any space to hurt them.
I'm not saying United are anything special, but their set up without the ball was impressive and on the whole, you didn't have answer.
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The real game changer for everyone was when Kante came off. Before that Kovacic was bossing they game and causing us loads of issues. When Kante came off Kovacic had to sit back more than before and it hurt Chelsea

posted on 22/2/20

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posted on 22/2/20

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 10 hours, 13 minutes ago
Don’t get it twisted, it was one poor game of football. We were poor but still dominated and should have won the game bar dodgy decisions and poor finishing.
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Dodgy decision? Or just decisions you disagree with?

You’d expect Chelsea at home to have more of the ball. I am not a fan of using things like that to say you deserved to win.

United defended fairly well and we’re dangerous in attack.

Who’s to say a team set up to contain and break quickly isn’t deserving of a win? Always been a strange one for me, that.

posted on 22/2/20

No dodgy decisions. Willian yellow card. Maguire should have seen red. first girl should have stood.

Very poor decisions. Your clutching with ur last comment too. As a Chelsea fan I’ve seen plenty defensive master classes on the counter.
Utd on Monday was not one of them. Just inept finishing on our part and poor refereeing performance.

The two are not synonymous.

posted on 22/2/20

They’re your opinions, not dodgy decisions.

posted on 22/2/20

Okay mine and 99% of people’s opinions then. They were dodgy decisions. Even my Utd mates conceded that.,

posted on 22/2/20

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 29 minutes ago

first girl should have stood.
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yea, the lazy bittch

posted on 22/2/20

You know women ji!

posted on 22/2/20

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
Okay mine and 99% of people’s opinions then. They were dodgy decisions. Even my Utd mates conceded that.,
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At least you’ve done a survey of the country anyway.

posted on 23/2/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 day, 17 hours ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 58 minutes ago
I have more bad news for you United supporters.

Your beloved football club would actually be 11th in the league without VAR. That's 4 positions lower than your current standing. Sucks huh!

https://gmsrp.cachefly.net/images/20/02/20/88ef66005b85a4311fae2aa4741a687e/690.jpg
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How does it suck? You really are not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?

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More irony. It's funny how you label me as the dimwit while you clearly miss point after point. In this case I'll explain (again).
1. The table shows that Liverpool did not benefit the most from VAR
2. The point difference is merely 4 points, meaning that Liverpool would still stand strong without VAR and would likely still not feel any heavy pressure from City.
3. The tables have turned. You gained 4 places WITH VAR. The second highest position difference in the league. There is irony and perhaps some shame.
4. The Livarpool meme is no longer valid and it would be incredible stupid to even use it considering how United and VAR are more buddy-buddy!

Hope you understand now why it sucks for you. Have some coffee before you reply the next time!

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