Why won't your leading scorer and winner of numerous trophies not make the top 5?
Higher than the club itself
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 14 minutes ago
Why won't your leading scorer and winner of numerous trophies not make the top 5?
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depends what your basing it on
Best
Charlton
Giggs
Keane
Scholes
Law
Edwards
Ronaldo
Robson
Foulkes
Byrne
plenty of legends but in many different ways
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 3 minutes ago
Why won't your leading scorer and winner of numerous trophies not make the top 5?
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Because I posted a similar article when he left the club and there were a lot of people who didn't put him top ten. I just want to see if those people have developed a brain now
I'd say hes top ten for his 04- to0 10. 12 was decent goal wise but was going down hill overall by then.
I've not developed a brain yet, he's just outside my top 10
5th behind Bruno Fernandes
A more interesting question is why we don't love him more, given his record, his achievements, and the hugely successful period of club history he's associated with. Is it the long, decline in which he was just about good enough (amid a dwindling team) to keep his place? Is it the disloyalty (but then other players get away with threatening to leave)?
I remember absolutely loving Rooney in his first few seasons. I remember loving him more than Ronaldo, thinking he was more important to the team (at least until about 2008), certainly recognising him as 'one of us' more than Ronaldo. Gradually that affinity faded away, and I don't really know myself why.
Is it the long, decline in which he was just about good enough (amid a dwindling team) to keep his place?
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Probably, he was kept easily about 2 or 4 years too long and that is a long time to watch someone decline to the point where they were barely good enough to play for us.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 19 minutes ago
A more interesting question is why we don't love him more, given his record, his achievements, and the hugely successful period of club history he's associated with. Is it the long, decline in which he was just about good enough (amid a dwindling team) to keep his place? Is it the disloyalty (but then other players get away with threatening to leave)?
I remember absolutely loving Rooney in his first few seasons. I remember loving him more than Ronaldo, thinking he was more important to the team (at least until about 2008), certainly recognising him as 'one of us' more than Ronaldo. Gradually that affinity faded away, and I don't really know myself why.
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A good question RR I feel almost the same. Maybe not loved him like I have one or two others. I think it's because I never felt he was one of us, and his heart was with Everton. Never stopped him giving his all thought.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 19 minutes ago
A more interesting question is why we don't love him more, given his record, his achievements, and the hugely successful period of club history he's associated with. Is it the long, decline in which he was just about good enough (amid a dwindling team) to keep his place? Is it the disloyalty (but then other players get away with threatening to leave)?
I remember absolutely loving Rooney in his first few seasons. I remember loving him more than Ronaldo, thinking he was more important to the team (at least until about 2008), certainly recognising him as 'one of us' more than Ronaldo. Gradually that affinity faded away, and I don't really know myself why.
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A good question RR I feel almost the same. Maybe not loved him like I have one or two others. I think it's because I never felt he was one of us, and his heart was with Everton. Never stopped him giving his all thought.
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I can definitely see him managing Everton within the next 10 years
If only Wazza was a bit more selfish - he could have stayed in better fitness. A box-to-box player can't last as long as a more selfish player like CR7. Wayne left a lot of himself on our pitch and looks it!
Wayne doesn’t need to run around much nowadays. He may not be as fleet of foot but his football brain is even more developed now than it was at United. He plays his football a different way too. He knows him limitations and I’d liken him to Pirlo now.
He stands out in the championship as you’d expect but he ran the show in the third round when we beat Palace away and they had their best eleven playing.
You’ll need to have a plan for Wayne otherwise he’ll be taking the mickey.
Top five in terms of contribution and value to the team.
Alongside Messrs Best, Charlton, Keane and Ronaldo (alphabetical order only)
Remarkable really, because he spent much of his career being played out of the position he would have been most effective in.
In no special order..
Tommy Taylor, Duncan Edwards, Law, Charlton, Best, Robbo, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, Keane
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posted on 4/3/20
Why won't your leading scorer and winner of numerous trophies not make the top 5?
posted on 4/3/20
Higher than the club itself
posted on 4/3/20
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 14 minutes ago
Why won't your leading scorer and winner of numerous trophies not make the top 5?
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depends what your basing it on
Best
Charlton
Giggs
Keane
Scholes
Law
Edwards
Ronaldo
Robson
Foulkes
Byrne
plenty of legends but in many different ways
posted on 4/3/20
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 3 minutes ago
Why won't your leading scorer and winner of numerous trophies not make the top 5?
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Because I posted a similar article when he left the club and there were a lot of people who didn't put him top ten. I just want to see if those people have developed a brain now
posted on 4/3/20
I'd say hes top ten for his 04- to0 10. 12 was decent goal wise but was going down hill overall by then.
posted on 4/3/20
I've not developed a brain yet, he's just outside my top 10
posted on 4/3/20
5th behind Bruno Fernandes
posted on 4/3/20
A more interesting question is why we don't love him more, given his record, his achievements, and the hugely successful period of club history he's associated with. Is it the long, decline in which he was just about good enough (amid a dwindling team) to keep his place? Is it the disloyalty (but then other players get away with threatening to leave)?
I remember absolutely loving Rooney in his first few seasons. I remember loving him more than Ronaldo, thinking he was more important to the team (at least until about 2008), certainly recognising him as 'one of us' more than Ronaldo. Gradually that affinity faded away, and I don't really know myself why.
posted on 4/3/20
Is it the long, decline in which he was just about good enough (amid a dwindling team) to keep his place?
======================================
Probably, he was kept easily about 2 or 4 years too long and that is a long time to watch someone decline to the point where they were barely good enough to play for us.
posted on 4/3/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 19 minutes ago
A more interesting question is why we don't love him more, given his record, his achievements, and the hugely successful period of club history he's associated with. Is it the long, decline in which he was just about good enough (amid a dwindling team) to keep his place? Is it the disloyalty (but then other players get away with threatening to leave)?
I remember absolutely loving Rooney in his first few seasons. I remember loving him more than Ronaldo, thinking he was more important to the team (at least until about 2008), certainly recognising him as 'one of us' more than Ronaldo. Gradually that affinity faded away, and I don't really know myself why.
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A good question RR I feel almost the same. Maybe not loved him like I have one or two others. I think it's because I never felt he was one of us, and his heart was with Everton. Never stopped him giving his all thought.
posted on 4/3/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 19 minutes ago
A more interesting question is why we don't love him more, given his record, his achievements, and the hugely successful period of club history he's associated with. Is it the long, decline in which he was just about good enough (amid a dwindling team) to keep his place? Is it the disloyalty (but then other players get away with threatening to leave)?
I remember absolutely loving Rooney in his first few seasons. I remember loving him more than Ronaldo, thinking he was more important to the team (at least until about 2008), certainly recognising him as 'one of us' more than Ronaldo. Gradually that affinity faded away, and I don't really know myself why.
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A good question RR I feel almost the same. Maybe not loved him like I have one or two others. I think it's because I never felt he was one of us, and his heart was with Everton. Never stopped him giving his all thought.
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I can definitely see him managing Everton within the next 10 years
posted on 4/3/20
If only Wazza was a bit more selfish - he could have stayed in better fitness. A box-to-box player can't last as long as a more selfish player like CR7. Wayne left a lot of himself on our pitch and looks it!
posted on 4/3/20
Wayne doesn’t need to run around much nowadays. He may not be as fleet of foot but his football brain is even more developed now than it was at United. He plays his football a different way too. He knows him limitations and I’d liken him to Pirlo now.
He stands out in the championship as you’d expect but he ran the show in the third round when we beat Palace away and they had their best eleven playing.
You’ll need to have a plan for Wayne otherwise he’ll be taking the mickey.
posted on 4/3/20
Top five in terms of contribution and value to the team.
Alongside Messrs Best, Charlton, Keane and Ronaldo (alphabetical order only)
Remarkable really, because he spent much of his career being played out of the position he would have been most effective in.
posted on 4/3/20
In no special order..
Tommy Taylor, Duncan Edwards, Law, Charlton, Best, Robbo, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, Keane
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