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posted on 13/3/20

What this doesnt include is the fact Wycombe are 3 points behind Rotherham with a game in hand.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 13/3/20

There's no fairness, just the proposal of a system that hopefully allows Leeds to get promoted...

They won't win with any proposal but I believe they will go with the easiest and that is just abandon the season.

One would hope that all clubs are lobbying against that.

posted on 13/3/20

Whilst I agree, that Leeds abs WBA deserve to go up, they just couldn’t allow that to happen without considering the options of the playoffs - and scenario could be argued...it could be argued that those sitting in 10th were biding their time to make a final push over the last 6 weeks of the season - and that it would be totally unfair to not give them the chance to have a fair crack

They couldn’t allow promotion or relegation to just happen because of where the top two or bottom two are currently sitting - especially when this league is so unpredictable - we only have to see some of the score try is season to see nothing can be taken for granted - and WBA & Leeds whilst occupy the top 2 places, they are by no means definite guaranteed those positions with still 9 games to go - you only have to look at both teams form between mid December and February, when both were in relegation form

Sorry but you just can’t take anything for granted

posted on 13/3/20

You can't create any workarounds. You either postpone the end of the season and finish it later this year or next, and you'll most likely go up, or you write off the whole thing and start again.

The problem with postponing is that there's a new season to start and the logistics around this will be a nightmare if this carries on till the autumn.

It's not fair. I've watched you play and you look great and you deserve better, but shiiiit happens sometimes.

posted on 13/3/20

I think all cup competitions and all Leagues should be cancelled until further notice - if it goes beyond May, then all seasons will be cancelled across the world and cast as void - then start afresh next August - it stinks I know, but I can’t see any other acceptable solution - everything cancelled for everyone, and we all just start again

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 13/3/20

What a centenary year....

posted on 13/3/20

comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 26 minutes ago
Whilst I agree, that Leeds abs WBA deserve to go up, they just couldn’t allow that to happen without considering the options of the playoffs - and scenario could be argued...it could be argued that those sitting in 10th were biding their time to make a final push over the last 6 weeks of the season - and that it would be totally unfair to not give them the chance to have a fair crack

They couldn’t allow promotion or relegation to just happen because of where the top two or bottom two are currently sitting - especially when this league is so unpredictable - we only have to see some of the score try is season to see nothing can be taken for granted - and WBA & Leeds whilst occupy the top 2 places, they are by no means definite guaranteed those positions with still 9 games to go - you only have to look at both teams form between mid December and February, when both were in relegation form

Sorry but you just can’t take anything for granted
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No team 'bides their time' to make a final push over the line. Every team tries as desperately to win one match as the next. Admittedly, at this stage of the season there certainly is a bit of chopping and changing, but not usually in the top two or three spots.

posted on 13/3/20

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 38 minutes ago
What this doesnt include is the fact Wycombe are 3 points behind Rotherham with a game in hand.
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Teams with a games in hand should be allotted, for those games, an average of the points they've scored over the season - that's totally fair.

posted on 13/3/20

comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 32 minutes ago
Whilst I agree, that Leeds abs WBA deserve to go up, they just couldn’t allow that to happen without considering the options of the playoffs - and scenario could be argued...it could be argued that those sitting in 10th were biding their time to make a final push over the last 6 weeks of the season - and that it would be totally unfair to not give them the chance to have a fair crack

They couldn’t allow promotion or relegation to just happen because of where the top two or bottom two are currently sitting - especially when this league is so unpredictable - we only have to see some of the score try is season to see nothing can be taken for granted - and WBA & Leeds whilst occupy the top 2 places, they are by no means definite guaranteed those positions with still 9 games to go - you only have to look at both teams form between mid December and February, when both were in relegation form

Sorry but you just can’t take anything for granted
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For a league that is "so unpredictable" the top two have been basically the same throughout. I'd be fine with Forest, or Brentford, or Fulham being allowed to be in this discussion if you'd ever actually got into the top two.

If the season is cancelled (which I both don't think it will be and hope it doesn't) then it will be a travesty for us and West Brom, because we deserved to go up.

posted on 13/3/20

comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 26 minutes ago
Whilst I agree, that Leeds abs WBA deserve to go up, they just couldn’t allow that to happen without considering the options of the playoffs - and scenario could be argued...it could be argued that those sitting in 10th were biding their time to make a final push over the last 6 weeks of the season - and that it would be totally unfair to not give them the chance to have a fair crack

They couldn’t allow promotion or relegation to just happen because of where the top two or bottom two are currently sitting - especially when this league is so unpredictable - we only have to see some of the score try is season to see nothing can be taken for granted - and WBA & Leeds whilst occupy the top 2 places, they are by no means definite guaranteed those positions with still 9 games to go - you only have to look at both teams form between mid December and February, when both were in relegation form

Sorry but you just can’t take anything for granted
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No team 'bides their time' to make a final push over the line. Every team tries as desperately to win one match as the next. Admittedly, at this stage of the season there certainly is a bit of chopping and changing, but not usually in the top two or three spots.
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Yes au agree, but you just cannot write off the opportunity of any team that is within a chance of promotion just because they don’t occupy an automatic place at present

It’s slightly arrogant to believe try e top 2 at present are the only ones that have the divine right to be given automatic promotion

posted on 13/3/20

comment by Lubo - Super Cooper! (U14008)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 32 minutes ago
Whilst I agree, that Leeds abs WBA deserve to go up, they just couldn’t allow that to happen without considering the options of the playoffs - and scenario could be argued...it could be argued that those sitting in 10th were biding their time to make a final push over the last 6 weeks of the season - and that it would be totally unfair to not give them the chance to have a fair crack

They couldn’t allow promotion or relegation to just happen because of where the top two or bottom two are currently sitting - especially when this league is so unpredictable - we only have to see some of the score try is season to see nothing can be taken for granted - and WBA & Leeds whilst occupy the top 2 places, they are by no means definite guaranteed those positions with still 9 games to go - you only have to look at both teams form between mid December and February, when both were in relegation form

Sorry but you just can’t take anything for granted
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For a league that is "so unpredictable" the top two have been basically the same throughout. I'd be fine with Forest, or Brentford, or Fulham being allowed to be in this discussion if you'd ever actually got into the top two.

If the season is cancelled (which I both don't think it will be and hope it doesn't) then it will be a travesty for us and West Brom, because we deserved to go up.
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Who deserves to go down? Or up from div one etc etc.

This won't end well for anyone (except Norwich probably)

posted on 13/3/20

comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Lubo - Super Cooper! (U14008)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 32 minutes ago
Whilst I agree, that Leeds abs WBA deserve to go up, they just couldn’t allow that to happen without considering the options of the playoffs - and scenario could be argued...it could be argued that those sitting in 10th were biding their time to make a final push over the last 6 weeks of the season - and that it would be totally unfair to not give them the chance to have a fair crack

They couldn’t allow promotion or relegation to just happen because of where the top two or bottom two are currently sitting - especially when this league is so unpredictable - we only have to see some of the score try is season to see nothing can be taken for granted - and WBA & Leeds whilst occupy the top 2 places, they are by no means definite guaranteed those positions with still 9 games to go - you only have to look at both teams form between mid December and February, when both were in relegation form

Sorry but you just can’t take anything for granted
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For a league that is "so unpredictable" the top two have been basically the same throughout. I'd be fine with Forest, or Brentford, or Fulham being allowed to be in this discussion if you'd ever actually got into the top two.

If the season is cancelled (which I both don't think it will be and hope it doesn't) then it will be a travesty for us and West Brom, because we deserved to go up.
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Who deserves to go down? Or up from div one etc etc.

This won't end well for anyone (except Norwich probably)
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No team can or should be relegated or promoted by default unless the are mathematically certainties

As none of the are, no team can be seated or punished as such - the whole season should be null and voided - yes it’s scandalous, but not as scandalous as the alternative

posted on 13/3/20

comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 38 minutes ago
What this doesnt include is the fact Wycombe are 3 points behind Rotherham with a game in hand.
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Teams with a games in hand should be allotted, for those games, an average of the points they've scored over the season - that's totally fair.
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But their game is against Bolton, where the probability of a win is surely far higher than if it were against Coventry. So do you take into account that, or judge it on their results against the top teams as well as the bottom?

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 13/3/20

Just scrap relegation and let the top three go up. Then next season the PL teams will play six more games. The season after have six relegated from the PL.

Liverpool should be given the title as they really won it weeks ago. They won’t be caught now.

posted on 13/3/20

comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just scrap relegation and let the top three go up. Then next season the PL teams will play six more games. The season after have six relegated from the PL.

Liverpool should be given the title as they really won it weeks ago. They won’t be caught now.
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You just would not be allowed to ‘let the top 3 teams go up’

Especially as in the championship, the team currently holding 3rd have done so for just 2 weeks, and they’re only 1 point ahead of the team in 4th and have yet to play them away - just too many ifs and buts to just allow those occupying those place now to be given the prize - it just cannot and will not happen

posted on 13/3/20

I’d be happy for top 2 in championship to be given automatic promotion, but you MUST then allow those sitting between 3rd-6th to fulfil a playoff tournament - it’s just 5 games after all

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 13/3/20

comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just scrap relegation and let the top three go up. Then next season the PL teams will play six more games. The season after have six relegated from the PL.

Liverpool should be given the title as they really won it weeks ago. They won’t be caught now.
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You just would not be allowed to ‘let the top 3 teams go up’

Especially as in the championship, the team currently holding 3rd have done so for just 2 weeks, and they’re only 1 point ahead of the team in 4th and have yet to play them away - just too many ifs and buts to just allow those occupying those place now to be given the prize - it just cannot and will not happen
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It’s not how long they’ve been there it’s how many games they’ve played and ended up there. They are there on merit and if the season is cancelled then it’s the fairest way.

I don’t think it will happen. I think they will play the games to complete the season even if next season has to start later.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 13/3/20

comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’d be happy for top 2 in championship to be given automatic promotion, but you MUST then allow those sitting between 3rd-6th to fulfil a playoff tournament - it’s just 5 games after all
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Might be a good compromise.

posted on 13/3/20

comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’d be happy for top 2 in championship to be given automatic promotion, but you MUST then allow those sitting between 3rd-6th to fulfil a playoff tournament - it’s just 5 games after all
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Might be a good compromise.
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I suppose the argument will be, who gets relegated from the PL - I can’t see any of the bottom 3 allowing themselves to just take relegation on the chin when there are still 9 games to push

posted on 13/3/20

comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just scrap relegation and let the top three go up. Then next season the PL teams will play six more games. The season after have six relegated from the PL.

Liverpool should be given the title as they really won it weeks ago. They won’t be caught now.
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You just would not be allowed to ‘let the top 3 teams go up’

Especially as in the championship, the team currently holding 3rd have done so for just 2 weeks, and they’re only 1 point ahead of the team in 4th and have yet to play them away - just too many ifs and buts to just allow those occupying those place now to be given the prize - it just cannot and will not happen
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It’s not how long they’ve been there it’s how many games they’ve played and ended up there. They are there on merit and if the season is cancelled then it’s the fairest way.

I don’t think it will happen. I think they will play the games to complete the season even if next season has to start later.
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This is the best suggestion by far

If the end of this season drags on then for the new season, scrap international friendlies (which nobody gives a fuсk about anyway) and scrap the League Cup for a season (for similar reasons)

posted on 13/3/20

In 10 to 14 weeks we should have passed the peak of Corona virus in Europe.
So it is still feasible to wait 14 weeks, then have a two week training / preparation plan and then have a five week period to play the final 9 games of the season and be completed by the end of August. Play offs would be tight or as others have suggested top 3 go up bottom 3 come down.

A month off, start the new season end of September and finish mid June.
This would mean either a late start for Euro 2020 (and consequently a knock on for the next season) of delay 2020 to 2021.

posted on 13/3/20

I would rather the opening post ad used the Championship as an example. Our relegation is too close to call,any three out of a possible eight are candidates. The top end wiv the Premiers massive financial benefits also as it's problems. There would probably be a different eight clubs prepared to sue the E.F.L. If this season is not completed den the only answer is to void it and start the 2020-2021 season wiv the same teams. I know dis won't go down well wiv a lot of Leeds fans's. In dis sad money world we choose to live in it's money once again dat will decide the outcome.

posted on 13/3/20

comment by RRthedrum (U7933)
posted 5 minutes ago
I would rather the opening post ad used the Championship as an example. Our relegation is too close to call,any three out of a possible eight are candidates. The top end wiv the Premiers massive financial benefits also as it's problems. There would probably be a different eight clubs prepared to sue the E.F.L. If this season is not completed den the only answer is to void it and start the 2020-2021 season wiv the same teams. I know dis won't go down well wiv a lot of Leeds fans's. In dis sad money world we choose to live in it's money once again dat will decide the outcome.
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He's right

posted on 13/3/20

We should use the Duckworth Lewis method

posted on 13/3/20

comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RRthedrum (U7933)
posted 5 minutes ago
I would rather the opening post ad used the Championship as an example. Our relegation is too close to call,any three out of a possible eight are candidates. The top end wiv the Premiers massive financial benefits also as it's problems. There would probably be a different eight clubs prepared to sue the E.F.L. If this season is not completed den the only answer is to void it and start the 2020-2021 season wiv the same teams. I know dis won't go down well wiv a lot of Leeds fans's. In dis sad money world we choose to live in it's money once again dat will decide the outcome.
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He's right
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Really do not think he is.

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