comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GeminMallorca FOVAR (U18318)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by GeminMallorca FOVAR (U18318)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
Scrap the entire season, put it down to experience. Start next season in August (Corona permitting) with all teams in the positions they started this season.
Tough titty scousers!
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You wish
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Actually no, I don't wish. I think that is the most sensible solution although 5 months without any football would probably send the suicide rate through the roof. I happen to think Liverpool are good enough to do it all over again next season - no probs.
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Would be more sensible to delay/curtail the next season so the current one can be finished so every club gets the closure it needs based on the efforts exerted in this season.
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Yep
Problem with not playing the cups out is it will have all sorts of implications for European qualification.
And the problem with not finishing the league seasons is that some teams are a game or two behind. Possible solutions you this could be either declaring all remaining fixtures as 0-0 draws. Or, possibly fairer to award each team their average points so far to remaining fixtures.
Priority should be to get their remaining league fixtures played if possible but who knows how long the suspension will be.
If the cups are scrapped then just automatically have 5th - 7th qualify for the Europa League, like they would if the cup winners had already qualified through league positions.
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 23 minutes ago
If the cups are scrapped then just automatically have 5th - 7th qualify for the Europa League, like they would if the cup winners had already qualified through league positions.
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What about champions league and Europa? Further knock on effects there too.
I suspect UEFA will have to reduce numbers of clubs entering the qualifying rounds but that will hit the smaller clubs and associations which benefit most from being in that stage.
Not really fair to scrap cup competitions for the teams that are still in them.
Assuming the situation doesn't improve enough to finish the season in the summer I think we should replay the 2019/20 season. Keeping all the teams in the competitions they were in when it went to chit is the most fair solution IMO. All of the compromise options (such as no. 5 in the OP) are unsatisfactory, and could long-term legal issues and challenges.
Whatever happens I think the bigger issue at play with football being cancelled for an extended period of time is the smaller clubs that rely on gate receipts to stay afloat. I'm sure many clubs would take playing and being relegated over nothing at all happening. Lots of people are going to be out of a job by the time this is over
I would like to see the current season ended. Ideally this summer, virus permitting. But if it drags to the autumn then shorten next season. Maybe by each team playing the other teams once rather than home and away
I thought that DJ but how to determine who plays who where would be a nightmare
Have to just be luck of the draw
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
Not really fair to scrap cup competitions for the teams that are still in them.
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Think you’ve jumped ahead a bit there, or back.
Basically this season, as suspended, should restart to completion as soon as practicable.
Obviously this has implications on next season.
So, it is suggested that in order to ensure next season which will start later can finish at an appropriate time the league cup could be scrapped for one season and the international breaks are either reduced by 2 or scrapped.
This will give back around 8 extra match days (as some league games can be played midweek)
Seems the fairest way considering how much of this season has been played and how well some teams have done or could do in the last few games.
There is no sense whatsoever in disrupting further seasons.
We need to cancel this season and start again in tAutumn 2020/21 with everyone in the same Leagues as they started 2019/20.
It is the simplest, cheapest, and fairest thing to do.
The health and wellbeing of the country must obviously come first, the game/industry as a whole needs some stability and that must override the feelings of individual Clubs and their fans.
Aren’t we going to have to mess around with 2022/23 season to accommodate the World Cup?
Is there a solution that sees this season resume when possible and then realigning the next season to start and finish later giving a break ahead of the WC rather than breaking the league season during it? This may work for European leagues, not sure about others?
I know it messes the traditional season timings, but then kickoffs always used to be 3 pm Saturdays and fee of those nowadays. Games over the summer could become evening kickoffs when temperatures are cooler.
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 21 minutes ago
There is no sense whatsoever in disrupting further seasons.
We need to cancel this season and start again in tAutumn 2020/21 with everyone in the same Leagues as they started 2019/20.
It is the simplest, cheapest, and fairest thing to do.
The health and wellbeing of the country must obviously come first, the game/industry as a whole needs some stability and that must override the feelings of individual Clubs and their fans.
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If footy can be resumed in autumn then this season can be completed then.
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 19 minutes ago
There is no sense whatsoever in disrupting further seasons.
We need to cancel this season and start again in tAutumn 2020/21 with everyone in the same Leagues as they started 2019/20.
It is the simplest, cheapest, and fairest thing to do.
The health and wellbeing of the country must obviously come first, the game/industry as a whole needs some stability and that must override the feelings of individual Clubs and their fans.
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But there are 0 guarantees another season can restart.
The outbreak may happen several times and the virus never go away. It could take over 12 months easily.
Makes more sense to quarantine then play remaining games out behind closed doors. Fans can watch at home and it'd do the masses the world of good.
If the cups are cancelled or not, hard to call. League is the mainstay and priority, and has most ramifications if it's not finished.
I get lots of small clubs will probably go broke so it will be hard times ahead. A null and void season with 8 games to go simply won't happen. 0 chance I'm
Behind closed doors or voiding the season, it's a no brainer. How does playing behind closed doors pose any risk? It doesn't.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 19 minutes ago
There is no sense whatsoever in disrupting further seasons.
We need to cancel this season and start again in tAutumn 2020/21 with everyone in the same Leagues as they started 2019/20.
It is the simplest, cheapest, and fairest thing to do.
The health and wellbeing of the country must obviously come first, the game/industry as a whole needs some stability and that must override the feelings of individual Clubs and their fans.
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But there are 0 guarantees another season can restart.
The outbreak may happen several times and the virus never go away. It could take over 12 months easily.
Makes more sense to quarantine then play remaining games out behind closed doors. Fans can watch at home and it'd do the masses the world of good.
If the cups are cancelled or not, hard to call. League is the mainstay and priority, and has most ramifications if it's not finished.
I get lots of small clubs will probably go broke so it will be hard times ahead. A null and void season with 8 games to go simply won't happen. 0 chance I'm
Behind closed doors or voiding the season, it's a no brainer. How does playing behind closed doors pose any risk? It doesn't.
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Blimey.
All Football isn't televised.
Clubs will go broke if they cannot plan
Clubs do not want to play games behind closed doors, that is like Asda opening the shops but not operating the tills, they will go broke if they have no gate receipts.
Playing behind closed doors still involves up to 100 people risking infection.
Playing behind closed doors still involves travelling and overnight stays in hotels or flights
Playing behind closed doors still puts pressure on medical services/staff when they are needed elsewhere
And seriously, many many more issues with your post
Depending on how long this situation persists, certainly erasing 2019/20 from the history books and starting again in August as we were last August (or July depending on when your season started) must be an option on the table. Tough on those close to winning something but for the majority the fairest thing to do as a last resort. League cup being the exception of course.
why not simply play the 2 games in hand ie sheffu-villa and city-arsenal and the declare that the final completed table.
Could do that to even it up yes.
By the way, anyone know where I can score some Andrex? No questions asked, now what I mean?
comment by Uli der Dicke (U8869)
posted 45 minutes ago
why not simply play the 2 games in hand ie sheffu-villa and city-arsenal and the declare that the final completed table.
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Because some teams will have played top teams twice and some once, some at home, some away...
Imagine being relegated on goal difference when you still have to play the surviving team at home?
Just scrap it, start afresh in the Autumn.
No one has factored in the transfer window.
That would also be a farce as clubs looking to survive or to get into Europe would be able to enhance their team with games left to play.
What about the players and medals etc. its all crazy.
The remainder of this season can be used as the pre-season for next season.
With the crucial part of the 19/20 season still to come I think it would be really unfair to pull up the stumps now. Every team has earned the position they are in, be it in the league, fa cup or Europe, and the season needs to be finished properly.
Not until that has happened should any decision be made about the 20/21 season
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Uli der Dicke (U8869)
posted 45 minutes ago
why not simply play the 2 games in hand ie sheffu-villa and city-arsenal and the declare that the final completed table.
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Because some teams will have played top teams twice and some once, some at home, some away...
Imagine being relegated on goal difference when you still have to play the surviving team at home?
Just scrap it, start afresh in the Autumn.
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i've no great love of the scousers but it would be an obscenity to rob them of the title at this stage.
plus it should see villa relegated.
comment by Uli der Dicke (U8869)
posted 15 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Uli der Dicke (U8869)
posted 45 minutes ago
why not simply play the 2 games in hand ie sheffu-villa and city-arsenal and the declare that the final completed table.
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Because some teams will have played top teams twice and some once, some at home, some away...
Imagine being relegated on goal difference when you still have to play the surviving team at home?
Just scrap it, start afresh in the Autumn.
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i've no great love of the scousers but it would be an obscenity to rob them of the title at this stage.
plus it should see villa relegated.
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Football extends beyond the Winner of the Premier League.
My club are in the Playoffs, we desperately need to win promotion, and believe me our return to the EFL is an existential matter; but we have to suck it up.
Torquay have 13 matches left to play if they finish in the top 7, when would they fit them in?
We will be faced with completing this season at the expense of next season, then what? Delay or curtail 2021/22? Which is already in turmoil because of the World Cup being played in winter...
Stop
Start again fresh
Disagree with that scarf.
Teams have earned whatever position they are currently in and the only fair approach is to finish this season off. Not reasonable to pretend the last 7 months haven't happened and wipe the slate clean
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posted on 15/3/20
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by GeminMallorca FOVAR (U18318)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by GeminMallorca FOVAR (U18318)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
Scrap the entire season, put it down to experience. Start next season in August (Corona permitting) with all teams in the positions they started this season.
Tough titty scousers!
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You wish
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually no, I don't wish. I think that is the most sensible solution although 5 months without any football would probably send the suicide rate through the roof. I happen to think Liverpool are good enough to do it all over again next season - no probs.
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Would be more sensible to delay/curtail the next season so the current one can be finished so every club gets the closure it needs based on the efforts exerted in this season.
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Yep
posted on 15/3/20
Problem with not playing the cups out is it will have all sorts of implications for European qualification.
And the problem with not finishing the league seasons is that some teams are a game or two behind. Possible solutions you this could be either declaring all remaining fixtures as 0-0 draws. Or, possibly fairer to award each team their average points so far to remaining fixtures.
Priority should be to get their remaining league fixtures played if possible but who knows how long the suspension will be.
posted on 15/3/20
If the cups are scrapped then just automatically have 5th - 7th qualify for the Europa League, like they would if the cup winners had already qualified through league positions.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 23 minutes ago
If the cups are scrapped then just automatically have 5th - 7th qualify for the Europa League, like they would if the cup winners had already qualified through league positions.
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What about champions league and Europa? Further knock on effects there too.
I suspect UEFA will have to reduce numbers of clubs entering the qualifying rounds but that will hit the smaller clubs and associations which benefit most from being in that stage.
posted on 15/3/20
Not really fair to scrap cup competitions for the teams that are still in them.
posted on 15/3/20
Assuming the situation doesn't improve enough to finish the season in the summer I think we should replay the 2019/20 season. Keeping all the teams in the competitions they were in when it went to chit is the most fair solution IMO. All of the compromise options (such as no. 5 in the OP) are unsatisfactory, and could long-term legal issues and challenges.
Whatever happens I think the bigger issue at play with football being cancelled for an extended period of time is the smaller clubs that rely on gate receipts to stay afloat. I'm sure many clubs would take playing and being relegated over nothing at all happening. Lots of people are going to be out of a job by the time this is over
posted on 15/3/20
I would like to see the current season ended. Ideally this summer, virus permitting. But if it drags to the autumn then shorten next season. Maybe by each team playing the other teams once rather than home and away
posted on 15/3/20
I thought that DJ but how to determine who plays who where would be a nightmare
posted on 15/3/20
Have to just be luck of the draw
posted on 16/3/20
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
Not really fair to scrap cup competitions for the teams that are still in them.
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Think you’ve jumped ahead a bit there, or back.
Basically this season, as suspended, should restart to completion as soon as practicable.
Obviously this has implications on next season.
So, it is suggested that in order to ensure next season which will start later can finish at an appropriate time the league cup could be scrapped for one season and the international breaks are either reduced by 2 or scrapped.
This will give back around 8 extra match days (as some league games can be played midweek)
Seems the fairest way considering how much of this season has been played and how well some teams have done or could do in the last few games.
posted on 16/3/20
There is no sense whatsoever in disrupting further seasons.
We need to cancel this season and start again in tAutumn 2020/21 with everyone in the same Leagues as they started 2019/20.
It is the simplest, cheapest, and fairest thing to do.
The health and wellbeing of the country must obviously come first, the game/industry as a whole needs some stability and that must override the feelings of individual Clubs and their fans.
posted on 16/3/20
Aren’t we going to have to mess around with 2022/23 season to accommodate the World Cup?
Is there a solution that sees this season resume when possible and then realigning the next season to start and finish later giving a break ahead of the WC rather than breaking the league season during it? This may work for European leagues, not sure about others?
I know it messes the traditional season timings, but then kickoffs always used to be 3 pm Saturdays and fee of those nowadays. Games over the summer could become evening kickoffs when temperatures are cooler.
posted on 16/3/20
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 21 minutes ago
There is no sense whatsoever in disrupting further seasons.
We need to cancel this season and start again in tAutumn 2020/21 with everyone in the same Leagues as they started 2019/20.
It is the simplest, cheapest, and fairest thing to do.
The health and wellbeing of the country must obviously come first, the game/industry as a whole needs some stability and that must override the feelings of individual Clubs and their fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If footy can be resumed in autumn then this season can be completed then.
posted on 16/3/20
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 19 minutes ago
There is no sense whatsoever in disrupting further seasons.
We need to cancel this season and start again in tAutumn 2020/21 with everyone in the same Leagues as they started 2019/20.
It is the simplest, cheapest, and fairest thing to do.
The health and wellbeing of the country must obviously come first, the game/industry as a whole needs some stability and that must override the feelings of individual Clubs and their fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But there are 0 guarantees another season can restart.
The outbreak may happen several times and the virus never go away. It could take over 12 months easily.
Makes more sense to quarantine then play remaining games out behind closed doors. Fans can watch at home and it'd do the masses the world of good.
If the cups are cancelled or not, hard to call. League is the mainstay and priority, and has most ramifications if it's not finished.
I get lots of small clubs will probably go broke so it will be hard times ahead. A null and void season with 8 games to go simply won't happen. 0 chance I'm
Behind closed doors or voiding the season, it's a no brainer. How does playing behind closed doors pose any risk? It doesn't.
posted on 16/3/20
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 19 minutes ago
There is no sense whatsoever in disrupting further seasons.
We need to cancel this season and start again in tAutumn 2020/21 with everyone in the same Leagues as they started 2019/20.
It is the simplest, cheapest, and fairest thing to do.
The health and wellbeing of the country must obviously come first, the game/industry as a whole needs some stability and that must override the feelings of individual Clubs and their fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But there are 0 guarantees another season can restart.
The outbreak may happen several times and the virus never go away. It could take over 12 months easily.
Makes more sense to quarantine then play remaining games out behind closed doors. Fans can watch at home and it'd do the masses the world of good.
If the cups are cancelled or not, hard to call. League is the mainstay and priority, and has most ramifications if it's not finished.
I get lots of small clubs will probably go broke so it will be hard times ahead. A null and void season with 8 games to go simply won't happen. 0 chance I'm
Behind closed doors or voiding the season, it's a no brainer. How does playing behind closed doors pose any risk? It doesn't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blimey.
All Football isn't televised.
Clubs will go broke if they cannot plan
Clubs do not want to play games behind closed doors, that is like Asda opening the shops but not operating the tills, they will go broke if they have no gate receipts.
Playing behind closed doors still involves up to 100 people risking infection.
Playing behind closed doors still involves travelling and overnight stays in hotels or flights
Playing behind closed doors still puts pressure on medical services/staff when they are needed elsewhere
And seriously, many many more issues with your post
posted on 16/3/20
Depending on how long this situation persists, certainly erasing 2019/20 from the history books and starting again in August as we were last August (or July depending on when your season started) must be an option on the table. Tough on those close to winning something but for the majority the fairest thing to do as a last resort. League cup being the exception of course.
posted on 16/3/20
why not simply play the 2 games in hand ie sheffu-villa and city-arsenal and the declare that the final completed table.
posted on 16/3/20
Could do that to even it up yes.
By the way, anyone know where I can score some Andrex? No questions asked, now what I mean?
posted on 16/3/20
comment by Uli der Dicke (U8869)
posted 45 minutes ago
why not simply play the 2 games in hand ie sheffu-villa and city-arsenal and the declare that the final completed table.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because some teams will have played top teams twice and some once, some at home, some away...
Imagine being relegated on goal difference when you still have to play the surviving team at home?
Just scrap it, start afresh in the Autumn.
posted on 16/3/20
No one has factored in the transfer window.
That would also be a farce as clubs looking to survive or to get into Europe would be able to enhance their team with games left to play.
What about the players and medals etc. its all crazy.
posted on 16/3/20
The remainder of this season can be used as the pre-season for next season.
posted on 16/3/20
With the crucial part of the 19/20 season still to come I think it would be really unfair to pull up the stumps now. Every team has earned the position they are in, be it in the league, fa cup or Europe, and the season needs to be finished properly.
Not until that has happened should any decision be made about the 20/21 season
posted on 16/3/20
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Uli der Dicke (U8869)
posted 45 minutes ago
why not simply play the 2 games in hand ie sheffu-villa and city-arsenal and the declare that the final completed table.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because some teams will have played top teams twice and some once, some at home, some away...
Imagine being relegated on goal difference when you still have to play the surviving team at home?
Just scrap it, start afresh in the Autumn.
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i've no great love of the scousers but it would be an obscenity to rob them of the title at this stage.
plus it should see villa relegated.
posted on 17/3/20
comment by Uli der Dicke (U8869)
posted 15 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Uli der Dicke (U8869)
posted 45 minutes ago
why not simply play the 2 games in hand ie sheffu-villa and city-arsenal and the declare that the final completed table.
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Because some teams will have played top teams twice and some once, some at home, some away...
Imagine being relegated on goal difference when you still have to play the surviving team at home?
Just scrap it, start afresh in the Autumn.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i've no great love of the scousers but it would be an obscenity to rob them of the title at this stage.
plus it should see villa relegated.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Football extends beyond the Winner of the Premier League.
My club are in the Playoffs, we desperately need to win promotion, and believe me our return to the EFL is an existential matter; but we have to suck it up.
Torquay have 13 matches left to play if they finish in the top 7, when would they fit them in?
We will be faced with completing this season at the expense of next season, then what? Delay or curtail 2021/22? Which is already in turmoil because of the World Cup being played in winter...
Stop
Start again fresh
posted on 17/3/20
Disagree with that scarf.
Teams have earned whatever position they are currently in and the only fair approach is to finish this season off. Not reasonable to pretend the last 7 months haven't happened and wipe the slate clean
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