Me too Mags.
That said, there are various views from outside China that they do appear to have it under control now.
Problem is they expect another peak of it in the winter.
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 7 minutes ago
London seems to be the epicentre and most likely to be the most affected, with more people in Greater London than Scotland I suppose that was inevitable.
Unfortunately from an economic POV, what happens in London effects every other part of these Islands.
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I get that-but China had just over 3,000 reported deaths. Italy has just over 2,500 (partly being blamed on having such an elderly population)-where the hell are our numbers coming from?!
Something’s not adding up with that.
Wait, the government said they expect 20,000 deaths?
Is that not maybe worldwide?
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comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 58 seconds ago
Wait, the government said they expect 20,000 deaths?
Is that not maybe worldwide?
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Think it's a UK number mate. They were apparently told over the weekend that their approach would lead to a minimum of 250,000 deaths in the Uk.
Hence the change in approach this week.
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
Wait, the government said they expect 20,000 deaths?
Is that not maybe worldwide?
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UK numbers. And that would be a good result.
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 4 minutes ago
Some of the figure being banded about by idiots on social media would have you think Big Thanos will be clicking his fingers any minute now
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But these are from government related officials, and being said in press conferences and live on TV.
It doesn’t make sense to compare any particular country with another.
China has huge cities and millions of square miles of emptiness. France has a very rural population with the exception of 3-4 large cities. The U.K. is heavily populated with the exception of Scotland outwith the Central belt and mid Wales is practically empty.
The way people life their lives is completely different. The U.K. commutes far more for work than most other countries in the world.
A simple notion that Italy have 2,500 deaths and are by all accounts levelling out whereby nobody has a clue what has or is happening in China and we now expect 20,000 deaths to be a good result is simply not comparable.
Countries are at different stages of the virus cycle and are pretty much doing their own thing.
Also vaccine trials have commenced in the US and again if China is to be believed they have had positive result from animal testing.
Maybe Rangers will survive.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 0 seconds ago
Also vaccine trials have commenced in the US and again if China is to be believed they have had positive result from animal testing.
Maybe Rangers will survive.
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More lives than a cat.
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 0 seconds ago
Also vaccine trials have commenced in the US and again if China is to be believed they have had positive result from animal testing.
Maybe Rangers will survive.
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More lives than a cat.
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And a very nasty cat at that.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
It doesn’t make sense to compare any particular country with another.
China has huge cities and millions of square miles of emptiness. France has a very rural population with the exception of 3-4 large cities. The U.K. is heavily populated with the exception of Scotland outwith the Central belt and mid Wales is practically empty.
The way people life their lives is completely different. The U.K. commutes far more for work than most other countries in the world.
A simple notion that Italy have 2,500 deaths and are by all accounts levelling out whereby nobody has a clue what has or is happening in China and we now expect 20,000 deaths to be a good result is simply not comparable.
Countries are at different stages of the virus cycle and are pretty much doing their own thing.
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You don’t think there’s anything amiss with the estimations for the UK?
You might have some point in it being difficult to compare countries, but using those that are ahead of us in the cycle of infection would give some indication-I think that’s fair?
I don’t think that we’re near a peak for this yet worldwide, but even then, it’s still less than half what they think is a good result for the UK.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
It doesn’t make sense to compare any particular country with another.
China has huge cities and millions of square miles of emptiness. France has a very rural population with the exception of 3-4 large cities. The U.K. is heavily populated with the exception of Scotland outwith the Central belt and mid Wales is practically empty.
The way people life their lives is completely different. The U.K. commutes far more for work than most other countries in the world.
A simple notion that Italy have 2,500 deaths and are by all accounts levelling out whereby nobody has a clue what has or is happening in China and we now expect 20,000 deaths to be a good result is simply not comparable.
Countries are at different stages of the virus cycle and are pretty much doing their own thing.
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You don’t think there’s anything amiss with the estimations for the UK?
You might have some point in it being difficult to compare countries, but using those that are ahead of us in the cycle of infection would give some indication-I think that’s fair?
I don’t think that we’re near a peak for this yet worldwide, but even then, it’s still less than half what they think is a good result for the UK.
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Like anyone else I cannot even begin to think of estimates and comparisons are correct. We’re all in the dark with this.
Why have India and Africa very few cases? You can’t just make simplistic comparisons and only after this is over will we know who was nearer the mark and who wasn’t.
China has supposedly peaked as has Italy. Are they to be believed? Who knows
That's why Italy have told UEFA football will start back May 1st, they have peaked and believe in 4 weeks time they'll be on a real downward spiral.
There are serious doubts about next season though, if it does peak again near winter time then it'll be even worse to try fix next season.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/18312936.neil-cameron-jim-traynors-replacement-david-graham-pr-disaster-rangers/
Good read.
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 2 minutes ago
That's why Italy have told UEFA football will start back May 1st, they have peaked and believe in 4 weeks time they'll be on a real downward spiral.
There are serious doubts about next season though, if it does peak again near winter time then it'll be even worse to try fix next season.
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You would hope in a years time we would have or be close to a vaccine. At the least we should be better able to cope.
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
That's why Italy have told UEFA football will start back May 1st, they have peaked and believe in 4 weeks time they'll be on a real downward spiral.
There are serious doubts about next season though, if it does peak again near winter time then it'll be even worse to try fix next season.
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I expect Rangers will have a statement to make about that
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We’re taking measures though based on estimates, and comparing what’s happened in other countries?!
It doesn’t sit right with me that we’ve went from an initial estimate of 250,000 (and I know that was based on the doing nothing scenario) to 50,000, with anything below 20,000 being a good result. We’re at 71 just now, with just over 8,000 dead worldwide.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re taking measures though based on estimates, and comparing what’s happened in other countries?!
It doesn’t sit right with me that we’ve went from an initial estimate of 250,000 (and I know that was based on the doing nothing scenario) to 50,000, with anything below 20,000 being a good result. We’re at 71 just now, with just over 8,000 dead worldwide.
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Are you suggesting it won’t be as bad as is being made out? I’m confused with what you’re saying here.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re taking measures though based on estimates, and comparing what’s happened in other countries?!
It doesn’t sit right with me that we’ve went from an initial estimate of 250,000 (and I know that was based on the doing nothing scenario) to 50,000, with anything below 20,000 being a good result. We’re at 71 just now, with just over 8,000 dead worldwide.
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Are you suggesting it won’t be as bad as is being made out? I’m confused with what you’re saying here.
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I’m not trying to downplay how serious the consequences of contracting it could be, but looking at the numbers then it doesn’t look as if we’ll get anywhere near that. Partly due to the measures we’re taking now.
These are government estimates though based on the measures now in place. They look well wide of the mark. Do you not think so?
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Reading about estimates for deaths in the UK. They initially thought up to 260,000, but have now revised that to 50,000 and anything below 20,000 would be a good result.
We’re sitting at 71 in the UK just now, and 8,012 worldwide.
That seems quite a leap to me.
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Because unchecked it'll spread exponentially until it reaches saturation point.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re taking measures though based on estimates, and comparing what’s happened in other countries?!
It doesn’t sit right with me that we’ve went from an initial estimate of 250,000 (and I know that was based on the doing nothing scenario) to 50,000, with anything below 20,000 being a good result. We’re at 71 just now, with just over 8,000 dead worldwide.
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Are you suggesting it won’t be as bad as is being made out? I’m confused with what you’re saying here.
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I’m not trying to downplay how serious the consequences of contracting it could be, but looking at the numbers then it doesn’t look as if we’ll get anywhere near that. Partly due to the measures we’re taking now.
These are government estimates though based on the measures now in place. They look well wide of the mark. Do you not think so?
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On a purely mathematical basis I agree with you. Many hundreds of scientists don’t however so I’d be extremely cautious that they’ve overestimated this by such a huge margin.
I hope you’re right
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 0 seconds ago
Also vaccine trials have commenced in the US and again if China is to be believed they have had positive result from animal testing.
Maybe Rangers will survive.
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More lives than a cat.
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They're feline good
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posted on 18/3/20
Me too Mags.
That said, there are various views from outside China that they do appear to have it under control now.
Problem is they expect another peak of it in the winter.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 7 minutes ago
London seems to be the epicentre and most likely to be the most affected, with more people in Greater London than Scotland I suppose that was inevitable.
Unfortunately from an economic POV, what happens in London effects every other part of these Islands.
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I get that-but China had just over 3,000 reported deaths. Italy has just over 2,500 (partly being blamed on having such an elderly population)-where the hell are our numbers coming from?!
Something’s not adding up with that.
posted on 18/3/20
Wait, the government said they expect 20,000 deaths?
Is that not maybe worldwide?
posted on 18/3/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/3/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 58 seconds ago
Wait, the government said they expect 20,000 deaths?
Is that not maybe worldwide?
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Think it's a UK number mate. They were apparently told over the weekend that their approach would lead to a minimum of 250,000 deaths in the Uk.
Hence the change in approach this week.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
Wait, the government said they expect 20,000 deaths?
Is that not maybe worldwide?
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UK numbers. And that would be a good result.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 4 minutes ago
Some of the figure being banded about by idiots on social media would have you think Big Thanos will be clicking his fingers any minute now
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But these are from government related officials, and being said in press conferences and live on TV.
posted on 18/3/20
It doesn’t make sense to compare any particular country with another.
China has huge cities and millions of square miles of emptiness. France has a very rural population with the exception of 3-4 large cities. The U.K. is heavily populated with the exception of Scotland outwith the Central belt and mid Wales is practically empty.
The way people life their lives is completely different. The U.K. commutes far more for work than most other countries in the world.
A simple notion that Italy have 2,500 deaths and are by all accounts levelling out whereby nobody has a clue what has or is happening in China and we now expect 20,000 deaths to be a good result is simply not comparable.
Countries are at different stages of the virus cycle and are pretty much doing their own thing.
posted on 18/3/20
Also vaccine trials have commenced in the US and again if China is to be believed they have had positive result from animal testing.
Maybe Rangers will survive.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 0 seconds ago
Also vaccine trials have commenced in the US and again if China is to be believed they have had positive result from animal testing.
Maybe Rangers will survive.
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More lives than a cat.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 0 seconds ago
Also vaccine trials have commenced in the US and again if China is to be believed they have had positive result from animal testing.
Maybe Rangers will survive.
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More lives than a cat.
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And a very nasty cat at that.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
It doesn’t make sense to compare any particular country with another.
China has huge cities and millions of square miles of emptiness. France has a very rural population with the exception of 3-4 large cities. The U.K. is heavily populated with the exception of Scotland outwith the Central belt and mid Wales is practically empty.
The way people life their lives is completely different. The U.K. commutes far more for work than most other countries in the world.
A simple notion that Italy have 2,500 deaths and are by all accounts levelling out whereby nobody has a clue what has or is happening in China and we now expect 20,000 deaths to be a good result is simply not comparable.
Countries are at different stages of the virus cycle and are pretty much doing their own thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You don’t think there’s anything amiss with the estimations for the UK?
You might have some point in it being difficult to compare countries, but using those that are ahead of us in the cycle of infection would give some indication-I think that’s fair?
I don’t think that we’re near a peak for this yet worldwide, but even then, it’s still less than half what they think is a good result for the UK.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
It doesn’t make sense to compare any particular country with another.
China has huge cities and millions of square miles of emptiness. France has a very rural population with the exception of 3-4 large cities. The U.K. is heavily populated with the exception of Scotland outwith the Central belt and mid Wales is practically empty.
The way people life their lives is completely different. The U.K. commutes far more for work than most other countries in the world.
A simple notion that Italy have 2,500 deaths and are by all accounts levelling out whereby nobody has a clue what has or is happening in China and we now expect 20,000 deaths to be a good result is simply not comparable.
Countries are at different stages of the virus cycle and are pretty much doing their own thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You don’t think there’s anything amiss with the estimations for the UK?
You might have some point in it being difficult to compare countries, but using those that are ahead of us in the cycle of infection would give some indication-I think that’s fair?
I don’t think that we’re near a peak for this yet worldwide, but even then, it’s still less than half what they think is a good result for the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like anyone else I cannot even begin to think of estimates and comparisons are correct. We’re all in the dark with this.
Why have India and Africa very few cases? You can’t just make simplistic comparisons and only after this is over will we know who was nearer the mark and who wasn’t.
China has supposedly peaked as has Italy. Are they to be believed? Who knows
posted on 18/3/20
That's why Italy have told UEFA football will start back May 1st, they have peaked and believe in 4 weeks time they'll be on a real downward spiral.
There are serious doubts about next season though, if it does peak again near winter time then it'll be even worse to try fix next season.
posted on 18/3/20
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/18312936.neil-cameron-jim-traynors-replacement-david-graham-pr-disaster-rangers/
Good read.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 2 minutes ago
That's why Italy have told UEFA football will start back May 1st, they have peaked and believe in 4 weeks time they'll be on a real downward spiral.
There are serious doubts about next season though, if it does peak again near winter time then it'll be even worse to try fix next season.
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You would hope in a years time we would have or be close to a vaccine. At the least we should be better able to cope.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
That's why Italy have told UEFA football will start back May 1st, they have peaked and believe in 4 weeks time they'll be on a real downward spiral.
There are serious doubts about next season though, if it does peak again near winter time then it'll be even worse to try fix next season.
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I expect Rangers will have a statement to make about that
posted on 18/3/20
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posted on 18/3/20
We’re taking measures though based on estimates, and comparing what’s happened in other countries?!
It doesn’t sit right with me that we’ve went from an initial estimate of 250,000 (and I know that was based on the doing nothing scenario) to 50,000, with anything below 20,000 being a good result. We’re at 71 just now, with just over 8,000 dead worldwide.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re taking measures though based on estimates, and comparing what’s happened in other countries?!
It doesn’t sit right with me that we’ve went from an initial estimate of 250,000 (and I know that was based on the doing nothing scenario) to 50,000, with anything below 20,000 being a good result. We’re at 71 just now, with just over 8,000 dead worldwide.
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Are you suggesting it won’t be as bad as is being made out? I’m confused with what you’re saying here.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re taking measures though based on estimates, and comparing what’s happened in other countries?!
It doesn’t sit right with me that we’ve went from an initial estimate of 250,000 (and I know that was based on the doing nothing scenario) to 50,000, with anything below 20,000 being a good result. We’re at 71 just now, with just over 8,000 dead worldwide.
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Are you suggesting it won’t be as bad as is being made out? I’m confused with what you’re saying here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not trying to downplay how serious the consequences of contracting it could be, but looking at the numbers then it doesn’t look as if we’ll get anywhere near that. Partly due to the measures we’re taking now.
These are government estimates though based on the measures now in place. They look well wide of the mark. Do you not think so?
posted on 18/3/20
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Reading about estimates for deaths in the UK. They initially thought up to 260,000, but have now revised that to 50,000 and anything below 20,000 would be a good result.
We’re sitting at 71 in the UK just now, and 8,012 worldwide.
That seems quite a leap to me.
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Because unchecked it'll spread exponentially until it reaches saturation point.
posted on 18/3/20
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re taking measures though based on estimates, and comparing what’s happened in other countries?!
It doesn’t sit right with me that we’ve went from an initial estimate of 250,000 (and I know that was based on the doing nothing scenario) to 50,000, with anything below 20,000 being a good result. We’re at 71 just now, with just over 8,000 dead worldwide.
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Are you suggesting it won’t be as bad as is being made out? I’m confused with what you’re saying here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not trying to downplay how serious the consequences of contracting it could be, but looking at the numbers then it doesn’t look as if we’ll get anywhere near that. Partly due to the measures we’re taking now.
These are government estimates though based on the measures now in place. They look well wide of the mark. Do you not think so?
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On a purely mathematical basis I agree with you. Many hundreds of scientists don’t however so I’d be extremely cautious that they’ve overestimated this by such a huge margin.
I hope you’re right
posted on 18/3/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 0 seconds ago
Also vaccine trials have commenced in the US and again if China is to be believed they have had positive result from animal testing.
Maybe Rangers will survive.
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More lives than a cat.
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They're feline good
posted on 18/3/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
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