Also, the long term effects of 'this isn't bad' false sense of security which leads people to ignore proper medical advice.
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 26 minutes ago
Ad hominem ππ»
Too many dogmatic opinions, people aren't willing to get out from under the envelope of the mainstream umbrella. They conceptualise ideologies from the BBC and regurgitate said ideologies as their own. Fact is the media shapes most people's ideologies and then they make out it that it was all their own thoughts, which is is not.
Conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA as a way to dissuade the population of America over the JFK assassination. So, any person at the time that didn't agree that it was Oswald was termed a conspiracy theorist, which people now use to denigrate people's opinions that don't match their own.
Now clearly there is a line when veering into this stuff and there is a huge amount of false information that should be dismissed, like flat earth, like the fake sky people etc.
But we shouldn't dismiss everything and be open minded to other possibilities because that leads to ignorance. I was reading the matrix theory the other day and I'm always a believer that anything is plausible.
If we remain close minded to other opinions, then we may still believe that the earth is flat etc.
In relation to the original post I came across this on YouTube from a verified physician in America. He explains the link between coronavirus and 5G and gives a very compelling argument.
A lot will dismiss this out of hand and will most likely not watch the video, but I found interesting to say the least.
https://youtu.be/hKeMacZD5xM
Here is also a link to 12 experts across the world that feel the lockdown measures are extreme, unnecessary and more damaging than the virus itself.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
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That 'verified physician' should probably be in prison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar
It really doesn't take long to do a quick check in whether the source you are consuming is full of chit.
If you can't do that I politely suggest that you stop sharing things on the internet, as your negligence could actually kill people.
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So you refer to Wikipedia and that somehow unpins what he says? I think he would have a better opinion on such matters than you. Don't ever point me towards a Wikipedia page and call it fact when anyone can edit the pages.
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It's not my opinion versus his. It's someone who has put people's lives at risk with dangerous practice versus the rest of the profession right now.
I'm sorry you are so attached to this, I suggest again that you stop sharing stuff online. You are part of the problem, not the solution.
http://skepdic.com/buttar.html
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-north-carolina-board-of-medical-examiners-dr-rashid-buttar-and-protecting-the-public-from-practitioners-of-non-science-based-medicine/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/18/book-raises-alarms-about-alternative-medicine/2429385/
https://quackwatch.org/cases/civil/buttar/complaint/
https://quackwatch.org/cases/board/med/buttar/complaint/
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I'm not attached to anything and I said he made a compelling argument, which is different to what you are trying to apply to me. Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions. What's wrong with the world is people like you willing to accept anything they are told without question. It's why when this done we will have zero freedom and people like you were freely and happy to give it away without question. As I said, he made a compelling argument, that was it. I leave it to you to decide what you do with the information. Unlike you I'm not forcing it down your throat, but before you dismiss anything you should consider other outlets.
Question everything, believe nothing.
If you seriously believe this crap you should get rid of your TV, your router, your microwave, your radio and your phone. You can never be too careful with all those radio waves.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Ad hominem ππ»
Too many dogmatic opinions, people aren't willing to get out from under the envelope of the mainstream umbrella. They conceptualise ideologies from the BBC and regurgitate said ideologies as their own. Fact is the media shapes most people's ideologies and then they make out it that it was all their own thoughts, which is is not.
Conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA as a way to dissuade the population of America over the JFK assassination. So, any person at the time that didn't agree that it was Oswald was termed a conspiracy theorist, which people now use to denigrate people's opinions that don't match their own.
Now clearly there is a line when veering into this stuff and there is a huge amount of false information that should be dismissed, like flat earth, like the fake sky people etc.
But we shouldn't dismiss everything and be open minded to other possibilities because that leads to ignorance. I was reading the matrix theory the other day and I'm always a believer that anything is plausible.
If we remain close minded to other opinions, then we may still believe that the earth is flat etc.
In relation to the original post I came across this on YouTube from a verified physician in America. He explains the link between coronavirus and 5G and gives a very compelling argument.
A lot will dismiss this out of hand and will most likely not watch the video, but I found interesting to say the least.
https://youtu.be/hKeMacZD5xM
Here is also a link to 12 experts across the world that feel the lockdown measures are extreme, unnecessary and more damaging than the virus itself.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
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The mind boggles.
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Elaborate TOOR.
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Ad hominem ππ»
Too many dogmatic opinions, people aren't willing to get out from under the envelope of the mainstream umbrella. They conceptualise ideologies from the BBC and regurgitate said ideologies as their own. Fact is the media shapes most people's ideologies and then they make out it that it was all their own thoughts, which is is not.
Conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA as a way to dissuade the population of America over the JFK assassination. So, any person at the time that didn't agree that it was Oswald was termed a conspiracy theorist, which people now use to denigrate people's opinions that don't match their own.
Now clearly there is a line when veering into this stuff and there is a huge amount of false information that should be dismissed, like flat earth, like the fake sky people etc.
But we shouldn't dismiss everything and be open minded to other possibilities because that leads to ignorance. I was reading the matrix theory the other day and I'm always a believer that anything is plausible.
If we remain close minded to other opinions, then we may still believe that the earth is flat etc.
In relation to the original post I came across this on YouTube from a verified physician in America. He explains the link between coronavirus and 5G and gives a very compelling argument.
A lot will dismiss this out of hand and will most likely not watch the video, but I found interesting to say the least.
https://youtu.be/hKeMacZD5xM
Here is also a link to 12 experts across the world that feel the lockdown measures are extreme, unnecessary and more damaging than the virus itself.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
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The mind boggles.
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Elaborate TOOR.
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You've posted a crackpot conspiracy theory with no scientific basis, which has been proven incorrect by actual science and told people to open their minds, all the while you'll have a TV, a phone, a microwave, a radio etc.
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharing misinformation about a pandemic can lead to people dying. See the drug that Trump mentioned, which lead to people taking water cleaning tablets and dying.
Sharing the work of 'verified physicians' like this hack could directly lead to people following courses of treatment that do them harm. See the articles above about this Buttar guy.
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It depends on how you look at it. It can be argued that people should be held responsible for their own actions
IMO and internet users especially should know how to source information responsibly. This onus must be put on individual persons because if you start shifting blame away from the individual then you're playing a dangerous game.
The freedom of expression and speech should not be curtailed by the negligence or stupidity of another person.
If I am negligent and say something on the internet which someone takes for fact and ends up dead, that person isn't dead because of my negligence. They are dead because of their own negligence.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 51 seconds ago
If you seriously believe this crap you should get rid of your TV, your router, your microwave, your radio and your phone. You can never be too careful with all those radio waves.
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To some extent there maybe some truth in that. The fact that Switzerland, Australia, Japan and Taiwan have banned the use of it is telling in my opinion. There could well be something in that, there may well not be. Are you able to prove the EMR is not harmful to your body?
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Ad hominem ππ»
Too many dogmatic opinions, people aren't willing to get out from under the envelope of the mainstream umbrella. They conceptualise ideologies from the BBC and regurgitate said ideologies as their own. Fact is the media shapes most people's ideologies and then they make out it that it was all their own thoughts, which is is not.
Conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA as a way to dissuade the population of America over the JFK assassination. So, any person at the time that didn't agree that it was Oswald was termed a conspiracy theorist, which people now use to denigrate people's opinions that don't match their own.
Now clearly there is a line when veering into this stuff and there is a huge amount of false information that should be dismissed, like flat earth, like the fake sky people etc.
But we shouldn't dismiss everything and be open minded to other possibilities because that leads to ignorance. I was reading the matrix theory the other day and I'm always a believer that anything is plausible.
If we remain close minded to other opinions, then we may still believe that the earth is flat etc.
In relation to the original post I came across this on YouTube from a verified physician in America. He explains the link between coronavirus and 5G and gives a very compelling argument.
A lot will dismiss this out of hand and will most likely not watch the video, but I found interesting to say the least.
https://youtu.be/hKeMacZD5xM
Here is also a link to 12 experts across the world that feel the lockdown measures are extreme, unnecessary and more damaging than the virus itself.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
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The mind boggles.
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Elaborate TOOR.
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You've posted a crackpot conspiracy theory with no scientific basis, which has been proven incorrect by actual science and told people to open their minds, all the while you'll have a TV, a phone, a microwave, a radio etc.
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Where has this been proven?
Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions.
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I was hoping for an analysis of their Wikipedia pages to be honest. Perhaps they're all crackpots or shamed scientists, you never know.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 40 seconds ago
Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions.
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I was hoping for an analysis of their Wikipedia pages to be honest. Perhaps they're all crackpots or shamed scientists, you never know.
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Anyone who goes against the grain is classed as a crackpot.
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 51 seconds ago
If you seriously believe this crap you should get rid of your TV, your router, your microwave, your radio and your phone. You can never be too careful with all those radio waves.
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To some extent there maybe some truth in that. The fact that Switzerland, Australia, Japan and Taiwan have banned the use of it is telling in my opinion. There could well be something in that, there may well not be. Are you able to prove the EMR is not harmful to your body?
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Ok so you're actually insane.
FWIW I did watch most of the video - enough to realize it's typical conspiracy butter bullcrap.
I skimmed the article and it might be interesting to follow up some of the doctors in there. However due to the fact you shared it, the credibility of the source is low.
I won't bother replying to you again because you're bad for people. But I can't urge you strongly enough to stop sharing the things you read and watch. You do not have a realistic worldview, appreciate critical thinking, or take basic steps to check that what you are sharing is true or even credible.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharing misinformation about a pandemic can lead to people dying. See the drug that Trump mentioned, which lead to people taking water cleaning tablets and dying.
Sharing the work of 'verified physicians' like this hack could directly lead to people following courses of treatment that do them harm. See the articles above about this Buttar guy.
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It depends on how you look at it. It can be argued that people should be held responsible for their own actions
IMO and internet users especially should know how to source information responsibly. This onus must be put on individual persons because if you start shifting blame away from the individual then you're playing a dangerous game.
The freedom of expression and speech should not be curtailed by the negligence or stupidity of another person.
If I am negligent and say something on the internet which someone takes for fact and ends up dead, that person isn't dead because of my negligence. They are dead because of their own negligence.
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“I am free to post without caveat unresearched, unconsidered and (let’s be honest) blatantly counterfactual, unscientific tripe online all day, and if any of that disinformation might happen to contribute to the misfortune of others, well, it won’t keep me up at night.”
You’re a facking pal.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions.
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I was hoping for an analysis of their Wikipedia pages to be honest. Perhaps they're all crackpots or shamed scientists, you never know.
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How about you do some reading yourself? It'll learn you. It's really not hard. The tough part is reality.
Thank for your clinical diagnosis.
"However due to the fact you shared it, the credibility of the source is low."
Classic.
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharing misinformation about a pandemic can lead to people dying. See the drug that Trump mentioned, which lead to people taking water cleaning tablets and dying.
Sharing the work of 'verified physicians' like this hack could directly lead to people following courses of treatment that do them harm. See the articles above about this Buttar guy.
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It depends on how you look at it. It can be argued that people should be held responsible for their own actions
IMO and internet users especially should know how to source information responsibly. This onus must be put on individual persons because if you start shifting blame away from the individual then you're playing a dangerous game.
The freedom of expression and speech should not be curtailed by the negligence or stupidity of another person.
If I am negligent and say something on the internet which someone takes for fact and ends up dead, that person isn't dead because of my negligence. They are dead because of their own negligence.
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“I am free to post without caveat unresearched, unconsidered and (let’s be honest) blatantly counterfactual, unscientific tripe online all day, and if any of that disinformation might happen to contribute to the misfortune of others, well, it won’t keep me up at night.”
You’re a fackingpal.
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Yup. That's a sociopath right there
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 0 seconds ago
Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions.
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I was hoping for an analysis of their Wikipedia pages to be honest. Perhaps they're all crackpots or shamed scientists, you never know.
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Genuine question BTW.
Also, none of them have supported the 5G theory but some of their other points make some sense.
Also, now I understand how the theory itself comes about. Like, weakening the immune system in a manner that makes it easier for this particular virus to penetrate us?
Thanks for the link and info. Pretty interesting read but there's no way this one could turn out to be true IMO.
I'm actually shocked there are people out there that will believe any crap they read and it's painful that these people can then spread it to others gullible enough to take it in.
The YouTube video linked I switched off after about 30 seconds or so when it started openly lying about 5G.
Literally no country in the world has “banned 5G”. The Swiss have a moratorium whilst they undertake their own further research on potential health impacts. They haven’t “banned” it at all. Ffs.
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharing misinformation about a pandemic can lead to people dying. See the drug that Trump mentioned, which lead to people taking water cleaning tablets and dying.
Sharing the work of 'verified physicians' like this hack could directly lead to people following courses of treatment that do them harm. See the articles above about this Buttar guy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It depends on how you look at it. It can be argued that people should be held responsible for their own actions
IMO and internet users especially should know how to source information responsibly. This onus must be put on individual persons because if you start shifting blame away from the individual then you're playing a dangerous game.
The freedom of expression and speech should not be curtailed by the negligence or stupidity of another person.
If I am negligent and say something on the internet which someone takes for fact and ends up dead, that person isn't dead because of my negligence. They are dead because of their own negligence.
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“I am free to post without caveat unresearched, unconsidered and (let’s be honest) blatantly counterfactual, unscientific tripe online all day, and if any of that disinformation might happen to contribute to the misfortune of others, well, it won’t keep me up at night.”
You’re a fackingpal.
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Preach my brother preach.
That's not what I said. It would bother me, the misfortune of others, but on a governance scale the state cannot baby people like this. The onus must be placed on the individual IMO.
Furthermore, you cant really police the internet, you'd be better served educating people in responsible use of the internet. You can't stop people from posting so any action will be reactionary punishment after the damage has been done. Meanwhile you're telling your population that other people should watch out what they tell them, instead of telling your population to be careful which advise to follow.
Secondly, whether an opinion is unresearched, unscientific and everything else you said is completely a subjective matter. Will you be providing us with some guidelines and rules around which a comment is considered unscientific and misleading? Could you make this available to all Facebook and Twitter users ASAP? Thanks.
Its just another mode of censorship that will be misused in future if it becomes main stream.
I'm not saying it's true either, all I said was I saw this and there was a compelling argument. That's all. Is 5G a factor? Maybe. Is it a bio weapon? Maybe. Is it naturally occurring? Maybe. Thing is, even the experts don't know.
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comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
The YouTube video linked I switched off after about 30 seconds or so when it started openly lying about 5G.
Literally no country in the world has “banned 5G”. The Swiss have a moratorium whilst they undertake their own further research on potential health impacts. They haven’t “banned” it at all. Ffs.
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So would that not infer that there might be something to be concerned about?
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 8 minutes ago
Jesus
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Here's another one for us to discuss.
Good suggestion Cal
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
The YouTube video linked I switched off after about 30 seconds or so when it started openly lying about 5G.
Literally no country in the world has “banned 5G”. The Swiss have a moratorium whilst they undertake their own further research on potential health impacts. They haven’t “banned” it at all. Ffs.
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So would that not infer that there might be something to be concerned about?
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The article is about 5g and links to coronavirus. This is complete nonsense.
There are several countries that don't have 5g and have many infected.
Still nobody is considering the fact that low frequency non ionized radio waves don't do any damage to people. If you think they do then why don't you get rid of your TV, radio, microwave, satellite, phone, router etc.
In fact I'd the people who created these conspiracies actually believed them and got rid of those devices for as they consider them dangerous, there wouldn't be so many gullible people lapping it up, burning masts etc.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 8 minutes ago
Jesus
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Here's another one for us to discuss.
Good suggestion Cal
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Is he even real? Oh wait, there was a book about him, it must be true.
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posted on 4/4/20
Also, the long term effects of 'this isn't bad' false sense of security which leads people to ignore proper medical advice.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 26 minutes ago
Ad hominem ππ»
Too many dogmatic opinions, people aren't willing to get out from under the envelope of the mainstream umbrella. They conceptualise ideologies from the BBC and regurgitate said ideologies as their own. Fact is the media shapes most people's ideologies and then they make out it that it was all their own thoughts, which is is not.
Conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA as a way to dissuade the population of America over the JFK assassination. So, any person at the time that didn't agree that it was Oswald was termed a conspiracy theorist, which people now use to denigrate people's opinions that don't match their own.
Now clearly there is a line when veering into this stuff and there is a huge amount of false information that should be dismissed, like flat earth, like the fake sky people etc.
But we shouldn't dismiss everything and be open minded to other possibilities because that leads to ignorance. I was reading the matrix theory the other day and I'm always a believer that anything is plausible.
If we remain close minded to other opinions, then we may still believe that the earth is flat etc.
In relation to the original post I came across this on YouTube from a verified physician in America. He explains the link between coronavirus and 5G and gives a very compelling argument.
A lot will dismiss this out of hand and will most likely not watch the video, but I found interesting to say the least.
https://youtu.be/hKeMacZD5xM
Here is also a link to 12 experts across the world that feel the lockdown measures are extreme, unnecessary and more damaging than the virus itself.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
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That 'verified physician' should probably be in prison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar
It really doesn't take long to do a quick check in whether the source you are consuming is full of chit.
If you can't do that I politely suggest that you stop sharing things on the internet, as your negligence could actually kill people.
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So you refer to Wikipedia and that somehow unpins what he says? I think he would have a better opinion on such matters than you. Don't ever point me towards a Wikipedia page and call it fact when anyone can edit the pages.
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It's not my opinion versus his. It's someone who has put people's lives at risk with dangerous practice versus the rest of the profession right now.
I'm sorry you are so attached to this, I suggest again that you stop sharing stuff online. You are part of the problem, not the solution.
http://skepdic.com/buttar.html
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-north-carolina-board-of-medical-examiners-dr-rashid-buttar-and-protecting-the-public-from-practitioners-of-non-science-based-medicine/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/18/book-raises-alarms-about-alternative-medicine/2429385/
https://quackwatch.org/cases/civil/buttar/complaint/
https://quackwatch.org/cases/board/med/buttar/complaint/
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I'm not attached to anything and I said he made a compelling argument, which is different to what you are trying to apply to me. Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions. What's wrong with the world is people like you willing to accept anything they are told without question. It's why when this done we will have zero freedom and people like you were freely and happy to give it away without question. As I said, he made a compelling argument, that was it. I leave it to you to decide what you do with the information. Unlike you I'm not forcing it down your throat, but before you dismiss anything you should consider other outlets.
Question everything, believe nothing.
posted on 4/4/20
If you seriously believe this crap you should get rid of your TV, your router, your microwave, your radio and your phone. You can never be too careful with all those radio waves.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Ad hominem ππ»
Too many dogmatic opinions, people aren't willing to get out from under the envelope of the mainstream umbrella. They conceptualise ideologies from the BBC and regurgitate said ideologies as their own. Fact is the media shapes most people's ideologies and then they make out it that it was all their own thoughts, which is is not.
Conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA as a way to dissuade the population of America over the JFK assassination. So, any person at the time that didn't agree that it was Oswald was termed a conspiracy theorist, which people now use to denigrate people's opinions that don't match their own.
Now clearly there is a line when veering into this stuff and there is a huge amount of false information that should be dismissed, like flat earth, like the fake sky people etc.
But we shouldn't dismiss everything and be open minded to other possibilities because that leads to ignorance. I was reading the matrix theory the other day and I'm always a believer that anything is plausible.
If we remain close minded to other opinions, then we may still believe that the earth is flat etc.
In relation to the original post I came across this on YouTube from a verified physician in America. He explains the link between coronavirus and 5G and gives a very compelling argument.
A lot will dismiss this out of hand and will most likely not watch the video, but I found interesting to say the least.
https://youtu.be/hKeMacZD5xM
Here is also a link to 12 experts across the world that feel the lockdown measures are extreme, unnecessary and more damaging than the virus itself.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
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The mind boggles.
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Elaborate TOOR.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Ad hominem ππ»
Too many dogmatic opinions, people aren't willing to get out from under the envelope of the mainstream umbrella. They conceptualise ideologies from the BBC and regurgitate said ideologies as their own. Fact is the media shapes most people's ideologies and then they make out it that it was all their own thoughts, which is is not.
Conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA as a way to dissuade the population of America over the JFK assassination. So, any person at the time that didn't agree that it was Oswald was termed a conspiracy theorist, which people now use to denigrate people's opinions that don't match their own.
Now clearly there is a line when veering into this stuff and there is a huge amount of false information that should be dismissed, like flat earth, like the fake sky people etc.
But we shouldn't dismiss everything and be open minded to other possibilities because that leads to ignorance. I was reading the matrix theory the other day and I'm always a believer that anything is plausible.
If we remain close minded to other opinions, then we may still believe that the earth is flat etc.
In relation to the original post I came across this on YouTube from a verified physician in America. He explains the link between coronavirus and 5G and gives a very compelling argument.
A lot will dismiss this out of hand and will most likely not watch the video, but I found interesting to say the least.
https://youtu.be/hKeMacZD5xM
Here is also a link to 12 experts across the world that feel the lockdown measures are extreme, unnecessary and more damaging than the virus itself.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
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The mind boggles.
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Elaborate TOOR.
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You've posted a crackpot conspiracy theory with no scientific basis, which has been proven incorrect by actual science and told people to open their minds, all the while you'll have a TV, a phone, a microwave, a radio etc.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharing misinformation about a pandemic can lead to people dying. See the drug that Trump mentioned, which lead to people taking water cleaning tablets and dying.
Sharing the work of 'verified physicians' like this hack could directly lead to people following courses of treatment that do them harm. See the articles above about this Buttar guy.
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It depends on how you look at it. It can be argued that people should be held responsible for their own actions
IMO and internet users especially should know how to source information responsibly. This onus must be put on individual persons because if you start shifting blame away from the individual then you're playing a dangerous game.
The freedom of expression and speech should not be curtailed by the negligence or stupidity of another person.
If I am negligent and say something on the internet which someone takes for fact and ends up dead, that person isn't dead because of my negligence. They are dead because of their own negligence.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 51 seconds ago
If you seriously believe this crap you should get rid of your TV, your router, your microwave, your radio and your phone. You can never be too careful with all those radio waves.
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To some extent there maybe some truth in that. The fact that Switzerland, Australia, Japan and Taiwan have banned the use of it is telling in my opinion. There could well be something in that, there may well not be. Are you able to prove the EMR is not harmful to your body?
posted on 4/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Ad hominem ππ»
Too many dogmatic opinions, people aren't willing to get out from under the envelope of the mainstream umbrella. They conceptualise ideologies from the BBC and regurgitate said ideologies as their own. Fact is the media shapes most people's ideologies and then they make out it that it was all their own thoughts, which is is not.
Conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA as a way to dissuade the population of America over the JFK assassination. So, any person at the time that didn't agree that it was Oswald was termed a conspiracy theorist, which people now use to denigrate people's opinions that don't match their own.
Now clearly there is a line when veering into this stuff and there is a huge amount of false information that should be dismissed, like flat earth, like the fake sky people etc.
But we shouldn't dismiss everything and be open minded to other possibilities because that leads to ignorance. I was reading the matrix theory the other day and I'm always a believer that anything is plausible.
If we remain close minded to other opinions, then we may still believe that the earth is flat etc.
In relation to the original post I came across this on YouTube from a verified physician in America. He explains the link between coronavirus and 5G and gives a very compelling argument.
A lot will dismiss this out of hand and will most likely not watch the video, but I found interesting to say the least.
https://youtu.be/hKeMacZD5xM
Here is also a link to 12 experts across the world that feel the lockdown measures are extreme, unnecessary and more damaging than the virus itself.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
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The mind boggles.
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Elaborate TOOR.
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You've posted a crackpot conspiracy theory with no scientific basis, which has been proven incorrect by actual science and told people to open their minds, all the while you'll have a TV, a phone, a microwave, a radio etc.
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Where has this been proven?
posted on 4/4/20
Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions.
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I was hoping for an analysis of their Wikipedia pages to be honest. Perhaps they're all crackpots or shamed scientists, you never know.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 40 seconds ago
Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions.
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I was hoping for an analysis of their Wikipedia pages to be honest. Perhaps they're all crackpots or shamed scientists, you never know.
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Anyone who goes against the grain is classed as a crackpot.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 51 seconds ago
If you seriously believe this crap you should get rid of your TV, your router, your microwave, your radio and your phone. You can never be too careful with all those radio waves.
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To some extent there maybe some truth in that. The fact that Switzerland, Australia, Japan and Taiwan have banned the use of it is telling in my opinion. There could well be something in that, there may well not be. Are you able to prove the EMR is not harmful to your body?
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Ok so you're actually insane.
FWIW I did watch most of the video - enough to realize it's typical conspiracy butter bullcrap.
I skimmed the article and it might be interesting to follow up some of the doctors in there. However due to the fact you shared it, the credibility of the source is low.
I won't bother replying to you again because you're bad for people. But I can't urge you strongly enough to stop sharing the things you read and watch. You do not have a realistic worldview, appreciate critical thinking, or take basic steps to check that what you are sharing is true or even credible.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharing misinformation about a pandemic can lead to people dying. See the drug that Trump mentioned, which lead to people taking water cleaning tablets and dying.
Sharing the work of 'verified physicians' like this hack could directly lead to people following courses of treatment that do them harm. See the articles above about this Buttar guy.
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It depends on how you look at it. It can be argued that people should be held responsible for their own actions
IMO and internet users especially should know how to source information responsibly. This onus must be put on individual persons because if you start shifting blame away from the individual then you're playing a dangerous game.
The freedom of expression and speech should not be curtailed by the negligence or stupidity of another person.
If I am negligent and say something on the internet which someone takes for fact and ends up dead, that person isn't dead because of my negligence. They are dead because of their own negligence.
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“I am free to post without caveat unresearched, unconsidered and (let’s be honest) blatantly counterfactual, unscientific tripe online all day, and if any of that disinformation might happen to contribute to the misfortune of others, well, it won’t keep me up at night.”
You’re a facking pal.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions.
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I was hoping for an analysis of their Wikipedia pages to be honest. Perhaps they're all crackpots or shamed scientists, you never know.
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How about you do some reading yourself? It'll learn you. It's really not hard. The tough part is reality.
posted on 4/4/20
Thank for your clinical diagnosis.
"However due to the fact you shared it, the credibility of the source is low."
Classic.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharing misinformation about a pandemic can lead to people dying. See the drug that Trump mentioned, which lead to people taking water cleaning tablets and dying.
Sharing the work of 'verified physicians' like this hack could directly lead to people following courses of treatment that do them harm. See the articles above about this Buttar guy.
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It depends on how you look at it. It can be argued that people should be held responsible for their own actions
IMO and internet users especially should know how to source information responsibly. This onus must be put on individual persons because if you start shifting blame away from the individual then you're playing a dangerous game.
The freedom of expression and speech should not be curtailed by the negligence or stupidity of another person.
If I am negligent and say something on the internet which someone takes for fact and ends up dead, that person isn't dead because of my negligence. They are dead because of their own negligence.
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“I am free to post without caveat unresearched, unconsidered and (let’s be honest) blatantly counterfactual, unscientific tripe online all day, and if any of that disinformation might happen to contribute to the misfortune of others, well, it won’t keep me up at night.”
You’re a fackingpal.
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Yup. That's a sociopath right there
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 0 seconds ago
Did you watch the video? Of course not. Did you read the article about the 12 experts? Of course not. I've noticed you've mentioned nothing about them with any of your links to denigrate their opinions.
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I was hoping for an analysis of their Wikipedia pages to be honest. Perhaps they're all crackpots or shamed scientists, you never know.
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Genuine question BTW.
Also, none of them have supported the 5G theory but some of their other points make some sense.
Also, now I understand how the theory itself comes about. Like, weakening the immune system in a manner that makes it easier for this particular virus to penetrate us?
Thanks for the link and info. Pretty interesting read but there's no way this one could turn out to be true IMO.
posted on 4/4/20
I'm actually shocked there are people out there that will believe any crap they read and it's painful that these people can then spread it to others gullible enough to take it in.
posted on 4/4/20
The YouTube video linked I switched off after about 30 seconds or so when it started openly lying about 5G.
Literally no country in the world has “banned 5G”. The Swiss have a moratorium whilst they undertake their own further research on potential health impacts. They haven’t “banned” it at all. Ffs.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Sharing misinformation about a pandemic can lead to people dying. See the drug that Trump mentioned, which lead to people taking water cleaning tablets and dying.
Sharing the work of 'verified physicians' like this hack could directly lead to people following courses of treatment that do them harm. See the articles above about this Buttar guy.
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It depends on how you look at it. It can be argued that people should be held responsible for their own actions
IMO and internet users especially should know how to source information responsibly. This onus must be put on individual persons because if you start shifting blame away from the individual then you're playing a dangerous game.
The freedom of expression and speech should not be curtailed by the negligence or stupidity of another person.
If I am negligent and say something on the internet which someone takes for fact and ends up dead, that person isn't dead because of my negligence. They are dead because of their own negligence.
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“I am free to post without caveat unresearched, unconsidered and (let’s be honest) blatantly counterfactual, unscientific tripe online all day, and if any of that disinformation might happen to contribute to the misfortune of others, well, it won’t keep me up at night.”
You’re a fackingpal.
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Preach my brother preach.
That's not what I said. It would bother me, the misfortune of others, but on a governance scale the state cannot baby people like this. The onus must be placed on the individual IMO.
Furthermore, you cant really police the internet, you'd be better served educating people in responsible use of the internet. You can't stop people from posting so any action will be reactionary punishment after the damage has been done. Meanwhile you're telling your population that other people should watch out what they tell them, instead of telling your population to be careful which advise to follow.
Secondly, whether an opinion is unresearched, unscientific and everything else you said is completely a subjective matter. Will you be providing us with some guidelines and rules around which a comment is considered unscientific and misleading? Could you make this available to all Facebook and Twitter users ASAP? Thanks.
Its just another mode of censorship that will be misused in future if it becomes main stream.
posted on 4/4/20
I'm not saying it's true either, all I said was I saw this and there was a compelling argument. That's all. Is 5G a factor? Maybe. Is it a bio weapon? Maybe. Is it naturally occurring? Maybe. Thing is, even the experts don't know.
posted on 4/4/20
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posted on 4/4/20
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
The YouTube video linked I switched off after about 30 seconds or so when it started openly lying about 5G.
Literally no country in the world has “banned 5G”. The Swiss have a moratorium whilst they undertake their own further research on potential health impacts. They haven’t “banned” it at all. Ffs.
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So would that not infer that there might be something to be concerned about?
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 8 minutes ago
Jesus
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Here's another one for us to discuss.
Good suggestion Cal
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
The YouTube video linked I switched off after about 30 seconds or so when it started openly lying about 5G.
Literally no country in the world has “banned 5G”. The Swiss have a moratorium whilst they undertake their own further research on potential health impacts. They haven’t “banned” it at all. Ffs.
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So would that not infer that there might be something to be concerned about?
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The article is about 5g and links to coronavirus. This is complete nonsense.
There are several countries that don't have 5g and have many infected.
Still nobody is considering the fact that low frequency non ionized radio waves don't do any damage to people. If you think they do then why don't you get rid of your TV, radio, microwave, satellite, phone, router etc.
In fact I'd the people who created these conspiracies actually believed them and got rid of those devices for as they consider them dangerous, there wouldn't be so many gullible people lapping it up, burning masts etc.
posted on 4/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 8 minutes ago
Jesus
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Here's another one for us to discuss.
Good suggestion Cal
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Is he even real? Oh wait, there was a book about him, it must be true.
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