Interesting article, if somewhat lacking in depth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/caught-in-a-superpower-struggle-the-inside-story-of-the-whos-response-to-coronavirus
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
Interesting article, if somewhat lacking in depth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/caught-in-a-superpower-struggle-the-inside-story-of-the-whos-response-to-coronavirus
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Was just reading that
Think politics has played a part in things not being addressed early enough by the WHO. That and China clearly covering up - for which they should be punished.
What is also a joke though is when idiots like Trump abuse the WHO for that while then waiting far longer themselves...
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
Interesting article, if somewhat lacking in depth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/caught-in-a-superpower-struggle-the-inside-story-of-the-whos-response-to-coronavirus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was just reading that
Think politics has played a part in things not being addressed early enough by the WHO. That and China clearly covering up - for which they should be punished.
What is also a joke though is when idiots like Trump abuse the WHO for that while then waiting far longer themselves...
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Trump really should be hold responsible for the deaths in the us- it’s his fault for the most part thanks to bungling decisions and foolish statements.
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In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
The WHO don't seem to be able to locate Taiwan on their "moral compass"
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 14 minutes ago
The WHO don't seem to be able to locate Taiwan on their "moral compass"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The UK and US dont recognise Taiwan as a country either. Taiwan is not recognised by the UN and therefore cannot be a member of the WHO.
People seem to think that WHO have a lot more power than they actually do. They are reliant on nations giving them access and updates, they are reliant on funding from organisations like the UN and from individual nations etc.
If people really feel this strongly about what their role should be, they should really be in favour of giving them more power and jurisdiction. Instead, people come across like they want them disbanded, leaving a vacuum in its place. Which is probably what people like Trump want to happen.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prev with SARS they were vigilant with data. This episode has shown they are no longer fit, as far as circulating info is concerned.
If Joe blogs see WHO state China is fine, or the US closing airports to Chinese flights is over zealous, then they take this as informed, factual info.
If they worded the initial tweets/replies as China has told us something but we have not validated it, it would have painted a dif picture.
The fact they ignored Taiwan pleas just seems moronic, plain and simple. They have people nominated to hold positions to act as their members eyes and ears, and by refusing to even acknowledge Twain concerns they put their members in danger.
As an example, if Taiwan had an outbreak and approached WHO to tell them, would they also ignore it?
As I've said countless times now, they are simply victims of what they set out to prevent, manipulation and misinformation.
If they have little power to validate info they post, let others do so. Otherwise it's no dif to my mate dave saying his mate in China said it's fine, don't worry.
If they have little power to validate info they post, let others do so.
------
Like who?
If WHO can't do it then who can?
Otherwise it's no dif to my mate dave saying his mate in China said it's fine, don't worry.
------
And that's exactly what nations want. They don't want to be supervised and anything that takes away control of these situations has often been amended out or rejected outright.
I don't know if there's an online source detailing their powers but if their powers are limited to that then what do you want them to do?
If you read the article, WHO had to wait for weeks to get info to make a decision. If they had powers to observe, test and obtain samples from Wuhan then that's exactly what they would have done and all this could have very well been averted.
You are being shown what is possible if you strengthen these institutions but I'm surprised people want to see them weakened further or abolished.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 9 minutes ago
Otherwise it's no dif to my mate dave saying his mate in China said it's fine, don't worry.
------
And that's exactly what nations want. They don't want to be supervised and anything that takes away control of these situations has often been amended out or rejected outright.
I don't know if there's an online source detailing their powers but if their powers are limited to that then what do you want them to do?
If you read the article, WHO had to wait for weeks to get info to make a decision. If they had powers to observe, test and obtain samples from Wuhan then that's exactly what they would have done and all this could have very well been averted.
You are being shown what is possible if you strengthen these institutions but I'm surprised people want to see them weakened further or abolished.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I totally understand the situation and the problems they would incur even if they did visit. They would see what the CCP wants them to see. It just reinforces the fact that for as long as people take their statements as gospel, we have an issue. It effects safety. It has crested in ill communication and allowed the virus to spread unnecessarily.
We need a body that is funded on the pretence is can validate all info and won't be a pr company used to spread it's members own narratives.
If I revert back to the Taiwan scenario. If they had the initial outbreak would WHO have just ignored the alarm?
After this they will be under so much scrutiny I don't see how they can continue to hold the torch as the publics go to for info, in these situations.
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 6 hours, 59 minutes ago
The WHO don't seem to be able to locate Taiwan on their "moral compass"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
China told WHO not to mention them, and china fund WHO and give them "data" lol!
WHO a!lowing wuhan and china back to work with no warnings?
So, its not a virus here for a year, at least, with second waves etc?
Europe not fu!ly locking down and now German schools and businesss open again, so al! good😷
WHO are you?
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 7 hours, 53 minutes ago
Btw Trump is an absolute terwat for encouraging people in certain states to protest the lockdown . Vile person for politcising this .
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Trump is trump😵
But in Germany, Spain, Italy and nordic nations, lockdown protests take p!ace and they are living normal lives, back to school and work!
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless and partisan WHO then.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless and partisan WHO then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless perhaps, but partisan?
Does anyone imagine they would not have been equally pliant to U.S. or Russian pressure not to declare a Public Health Emergency of International Concern?
And does anyone imagine those other countries (or any other with enough clout in these international organisations) wouldn't have put pressure on the WHO because of the potential repercussions to their international trade interests?
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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 7 hours, 53 minutes ago
Btw Trump is an absolute terwat for encouraging people in certain states to protest the lockdown . Vile person for politcising this .
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Trump is a caaant😵
Who puts his re-election above any American lives. All of them if there was a point in being president thereafter.
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Fixed that for you. You didn’t need the rest
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless and partisan WHO then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless perhaps, but partisan?
Does anyone imagine they would not have been equally pliant to U.S. or Russian pressure not to declare a Public Health Emergency of International Concern?
And does anyone imagine those other countries (or any other with enough clout in these international organisations) wouldn't have put pressure on the WHO because of the potential repercussions to their international trade interests?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My ref was more geared towards WHO deflecting criticism but claiming 'some people' wanted to test the vaccine in Africa, and WHO wouldn't accept such racism.
Meanwhile China are putting black people in quarantine, even if they have tested negative and not had cover.
Some have been residents for over a decade and now can't use certain shops/restuarants etc.
Surely that is something WHO could also condemn publicly on much the same way?
I think a new independent body is required, that has power and can act in the best interest of its members, whilst staying focused on its job and not politics.
If people won't conform after thus outbreak then exclude them and publicly state why. Transparency is key from now on. If hundreds of millions can't aid that it's doomed.
If WHO is suitable and can mislead the masses (intentional or not) then let's promote a body that can.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Interesting article, if somewhat lacking in depth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/caught-in-a-superpower-struggle-the-inside-story-of-the-whos-response-to-coronavirus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This isn't football, but it certainly affects football worldwide!
So I will comment.
I have read this article about the WHO.
While I am certainly no supporter of Donald J Trump, in fact I am exactly the opposite, I want the Bugga out of the white house and up before the judge for his tax evasions, ......
I have to conclude that on the subject of the WHO Trump has a point. Withholding $400 Billion is a bit drastic. But maybe the WHO needs to be reorganized and streamlined. It is old and decrepit, unable to make assessments rapidly, prone to cronyism and possibly even corruption (although the article didn't get into that!). To undermine the warnings of one of their own immunologists that the virus was human-to-human contagious is simply egregious and deserving of punishment a la Trump.
I would hope Trump's action, for whatever reasons he has in taking it, which are certainly self-interested, will lead to re-organization.
That would be for the best for the WHO.
Otherwise it will go the way of the League of Nations!
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 6 hours, 59 minutes ago
The WHO don't seem to be able to locate Taiwan on their "moral compass"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
China told WHO not to mention them, and china fund WHO and give them "data" lol!
WHO a!lowing wuhan and china back to work with no warnings?
-----
This is what I'm talking about.
Anyone who thinks WHO can allow or disallow China from doing anything they want is not qualified to comment on this subject. Go read a book and then come back.
To undermine the warnings of one of their own immunologists that the virus was human-to-human contagious
-----
And what were the other immunologists saying. If only one of them gave this advise then he wasn't ignored, he was in a minority of one. Im not sure whay you say is what happened but on a rational basis you can't just act in the word of one guy.
What we need to be questioning is why the WHO is sitting in some chamber waiting to be told what's going on. Why aren't their agents on the field carrying out these tests and coming up with solutions? Its in the interest of the world that this happens but WHO has no powers to do this.
We know that nations have the capacity to lie and cheat, putting other nations in trouble. Just like Chernobyl nuclear accident. Ideally the WHO is supposed to be the check and balance against that healthwise but it has no teeth whatsoever.
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 13 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 7 hours, 53 minutes ago
Btw Trump is an absolute terwat for encouraging people in certain states to protest the lockdown . Vile person for politcising this .
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Trump is trump😵
But in Germany, Spain, Italy and nordic nations, lockdown protests take p!ace and they are living normal lives, back to school and work!
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Did their leaders encourage protest ?
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Sorry, if you want me to defend Donald, I am not doing so bud.
Starmer is encouraging an exit Lockdown plan and dates and has been for weeks.
So, as in Europe, there is a drive by leaders to break lock down soon.
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posted on 17/4/20
Palmers
posted on 18/4/20
Interesting article, if somewhat lacking in depth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/caught-in-a-superpower-struggle-the-inside-story-of-the-whos-response-to-coronavirus
posted on 18/4/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
Interesting article, if somewhat lacking in depth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/caught-in-a-superpower-struggle-the-inside-story-of-the-whos-response-to-coronavirus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was just reading that
Think politics has played a part in things not being addressed early enough by the WHO. That and China clearly covering up - for which they should be punished.
What is also a joke though is when idiots like Trump abuse the WHO for that while then waiting far longer themselves...
posted on 18/4/20
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
Interesting article, if somewhat lacking in depth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/caught-in-a-superpower-struggle-the-inside-story-of-the-whos-response-to-coronavirus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was just reading that
Think politics has played a part in things not being addressed early enough by the WHO. That and China clearly covering up - for which they should be punished.
What is also a joke though is when idiots like Trump abuse the WHO for that while then waiting far longer themselves...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trump really should be hold responsible for the deaths in the us- it’s his fault for the most part thanks to bungling decisions and foolish statements.
posted on 18/4/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/4/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/4/20
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
posted on 18/4/20
The WHO don't seem to be able to locate Taiwan on their "moral compass"
posted on 18/4/20
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 14 minutes ago
The WHO don't seem to be able to locate Taiwan on their "moral compass"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The UK and US dont recognise Taiwan as a country either. Taiwan is not recognised by the UN and therefore cannot be a member of the WHO.
People seem to think that WHO have a lot more power than they actually do. They are reliant on nations giving them access and updates, they are reliant on funding from organisations like the UN and from individual nations etc.
If people really feel this strongly about what their role should be, they should really be in favour of giving them more power and jurisdiction. Instead, people come across like they want them disbanded, leaving a vacuum in its place. Which is probably what people like Trump want to happen.
posted on 18/4/20
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
posted on 18/4/20
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prev with SARS they were vigilant with data. This episode has shown they are no longer fit, as far as circulating info is concerned.
If Joe blogs see WHO state China is fine, or the US closing airports to Chinese flights is over zealous, then they take this as informed, factual info.
If they worded the initial tweets/replies as China has told us something but we have not validated it, it would have painted a dif picture.
The fact they ignored Taiwan pleas just seems moronic, plain and simple. They have people nominated to hold positions to act as their members eyes and ears, and by refusing to even acknowledge Twain concerns they put their members in danger.
As an example, if Taiwan had an outbreak and approached WHO to tell them, would they also ignore it?
As I've said countless times now, they are simply victims of what they set out to prevent, manipulation and misinformation.
If they have little power to validate info they post, let others do so. Otherwise it's no dif to my mate dave saying his mate in China said it's fine, don't worry.
posted on 18/4/20
If they have little power to validate info they post, let others do so.
------
Like who?
If WHO can't do it then who can?
posted on 18/4/20
Otherwise it's no dif to my mate dave saying his mate in China said it's fine, don't worry.
------
And that's exactly what nations want. They don't want to be supervised and anything that takes away control of these situations has often been amended out or rejected outright.
I don't know if there's an online source detailing their powers but if their powers are limited to that then what do you want them to do?
If you read the article, WHO had to wait for weeks to get info to make a decision. If they had powers to observe, test and obtain samples from Wuhan then that's exactly what they would have done and all this could have very well been averted.
You are being shown what is possible if you strengthen these institutions but I'm surprised people want to see them weakened further or abolished.
posted on 18/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 9 minutes ago
Otherwise it's no dif to my mate dave saying his mate in China said it's fine, don't worry.
------
And that's exactly what nations want. They don't want to be supervised and anything that takes away control of these situations has often been amended out or rejected outright.
I don't know if there's an online source detailing their powers but if their powers are limited to that then what do you want them to do?
If you read the article, WHO had to wait for weeks to get info to make a decision. If they had powers to observe, test and obtain samples from Wuhan then that's exactly what they would have done and all this could have very well been averted.
You are being shown what is possible if you strengthen these institutions but I'm surprised people want to see them weakened further or abolished.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I totally understand the situation and the problems they would incur even if they did visit. They would see what the CCP wants them to see. It just reinforces the fact that for as long as people take their statements as gospel, we have an issue. It effects safety. It has crested in ill communication and allowed the virus to spread unnecessarily.
We need a body that is funded on the pretence is can validate all info and won't be a pr company used to spread it's members own narratives.
If I revert back to the Taiwan scenario. If they had the initial outbreak would WHO have just ignored the alarm?
After this they will be under so much scrutiny I don't see how they can continue to hold the torch as the publics go to for info, in these situations.
posted on 18/4/20
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 6 hours, 59 minutes ago
The WHO don't seem to be able to locate Taiwan on their "moral compass"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
China told WHO not to mention them, and china fund WHO and give them "data" lol!
WHO a!lowing wuhan and china back to work with no warnings?
So, its not a virus here for a year, at least, with second waves etc?
Europe not fu!ly locking down and now German schools and businesss open again, so al! good😷
WHO are you?
posted on 18/4/20
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 7 hours, 53 minutes ago
Btw Trump is an absolute terwat for encouraging people in certain states to protest the lockdown . Vile person for politcising this .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trump is trump😵
But in Germany, Spain, Italy and nordic nations, lockdown protests take p!ace and they are living normal lives, back to school and work!
posted on 18/4/20
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless and partisan WHO then.
posted on 18/4/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless and partisan WHO then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless perhaps, but partisan?
Does anyone imagine they would not have been equally pliant to U.S. or Russian pressure not to declare a Public Health Emergency of International Concern?
And does anyone imagine those other countries (or any other with enough clout in these international organisations) wouldn't have put pressure on the WHO because of the potential repercussions to their international trade interests?
posted on 18/4/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/4/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 7 hours, 53 minutes ago
Btw Trump is an absolute terwat for encouraging people in certain states to protest the lockdown . Vile person for politcising this .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trump is a caaant😵
Who puts his re-election above any American lives. All of them if there was a point in being president thereafter.
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Fixed that for you. You didn’t need the rest
posted on 18/4/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In other news, WHO won't accept racism against Africa, amid rumours some countries wanted to test a vaccine in Africa....
Meanwhile in China, Africans, even if they test negative and have lived in China for years, are being banned from establishments and taken away by the police to special 'hotels'
At least WHO has their moral compass in order 😅
https://youtu.be/bsnHUrpD__E
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What power do you think WHO have to stop China's internal affairs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless and partisan WHO then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Powerless perhaps, but partisan?
Does anyone imagine they would not have been equally pliant to U.S. or Russian pressure not to declare a Public Health Emergency of International Concern?
And does anyone imagine those other countries (or any other with enough clout in these international organisations) wouldn't have put pressure on the WHO because of the potential repercussions to their international trade interests?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My ref was more geared towards WHO deflecting criticism but claiming 'some people' wanted to test the vaccine in Africa, and WHO wouldn't accept such racism.
Meanwhile China are putting black people in quarantine, even if they have tested negative and not had cover.
Some have been residents for over a decade and now can't use certain shops/restuarants etc.
Surely that is something WHO could also condemn publicly on much the same way?
I think a new independent body is required, that has power and can act in the best interest of its members, whilst staying focused on its job and not politics.
If people won't conform after thus outbreak then exclude them and publicly state why. Transparency is key from now on. If hundreds of millions can't aid that it's doomed.
If WHO is suitable and can mislead the masses (intentional or not) then let's promote a body that can.
posted on 18/4/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Interesting article, if somewhat lacking in depth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/caught-in-a-superpower-struggle-the-inside-story-of-the-whos-response-to-coronavirus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This isn't football, but it certainly affects football worldwide!
So I will comment.
I have read this article about the WHO.
While I am certainly no supporter of Donald J Trump, in fact I am exactly the opposite, I want the Bugga out of the white house and up before the judge for his tax evasions, ......
I have to conclude that on the subject of the WHO Trump has a point. Withholding $400 Billion is a bit drastic. But maybe the WHO needs to be reorganized and streamlined. It is old and decrepit, unable to make assessments rapidly, prone to cronyism and possibly even corruption (although the article didn't get into that!). To undermine the warnings of one of their own immunologists that the virus was human-to-human contagious is simply egregious and deserving of punishment a la Trump.
I would hope Trump's action, for whatever reasons he has in taking it, which are certainly self-interested, will lead to re-organization.
That would be for the best for the WHO.
Otherwise it will go the way of the League of Nations!
posted on 19/4/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by somethingelse (U3109)
posted 6 hours, 59 minutes ago
The WHO don't seem to be able to locate Taiwan on their "moral compass"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
China told WHO not to mention them, and china fund WHO and give them "data" lol!
WHO a!lowing wuhan and china back to work with no warnings?
-----
This is what I'm talking about.
Anyone who thinks WHO can allow or disallow China from doing anything they want is not qualified to comment on this subject. Go read a book and then come back.
posted on 19/4/20
To undermine the warnings of one of their own immunologists that the virus was human-to-human contagious
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And what were the other immunologists saying. If only one of them gave this advise then he wasn't ignored, he was in a minority of one. Im not sure whay you say is what happened but on a rational basis you can't just act in the word of one guy.
What we need to be questioning is why the WHO is sitting in some chamber waiting to be told what's going on. Why aren't their agents on the field carrying out these tests and coming up with solutions? Its in the interest of the world that this happens but WHO has no powers to do this.
We know that nations have the capacity to lie and cheat, putting other nations in trouble. Just like Chernobyl nuclear accident. Ideally the WHO is supposed to be the check and balance against that healthwise but it has no teeth whatsoever.
posted on 19/4/20
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 13 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 7 hours, 53 minutes ago
Btw Trump is an absolute terwat for encouraging people in certain states to protest the lockdown . Vile person for politcising this .
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Trump is trump😵
But in Germany, Spain, Italy and nordic nations, lockdown protests take p!ace and they are living normal lives, back to school and work!
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Did their leaders encourage protest ?
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Sorry, if you want me to defend Donald, I am not doing so bud.
Starmer is encouraging an exit Lockdown plan and dates and has been for weeks.
So, as in Europe, there is a drive by leaders to break lock down soon.
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