comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because it's more exciting if 8 pretty good teams are competing for the title rather than 2.
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Excitement shouldn't trump logic and fairness.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
So Spurs in 8th place after a terrible season would have a genuine shot at winning the title?
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You have the least shot because you're playing the team in 1st in the first round
See, it's fair.
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Why would we even be involved when we can't mathematically win the title at the moment?
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Read the aritcle. the playoffs are for CL qualification not just the title
The world doesn't revolved around Liverpool and their PL title, as much as some people seem to think it does.
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Why not just have separate play offs for CL qualification only? We shouldn't be allowed to compete for a title.
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Only after the CL and EL places have played a playoff with the relegation teams to decide relegation, make it exciting. This way relegation teams have a shot at not only suriving relegation but... wait for it... european places.
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 11 seconds ago
Because it's more exciting if 8 pretty good teams are competing for the title rather than 2.
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Forest, Leeds and West Brom are ‘pretty good’ too - should we include them also?
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We could have a big playoff tournament for the championship too!
Promoted teams would be two finalists and winner of a third place playoff.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because it's more exciting if 8 pretty good teams are competing for the title rather than 2.
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Excitement shouldn't trump logic and fairness.
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There's no fairness after this big disruptions. There's no logic.
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
So Spurs in 8th place after a terrible season would have a genuine shot at winning the title?
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You have the least shot because you're playing the team in 1st in the first round
See, it's fair.
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Why would we even be involved when we can't mathematically win the title at the moment?
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Read the aritcle. the playoffs are for CL qualification not just the title
The world doesn't revolved around Liverpool and their PL title, as much as some people seem to think it does.
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Why not just have separate play offs for CL qualification only? We shouldn't be allowed to compete for a title.
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Only after the CL and EL places have played a playoff with the relegation teams to decide relegation, make it exciting. This way relegation teams have a shot at not only suriving relegation but... wait for it... european places.
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Why?
What's so ridiculous about the bottom 6 teams competiting to avoid relegation and the top 8 teams competiting for CL places and the title.
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because it's more exciting if 8 pretty good teams are competing for the title rather than 2.
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Excitement shouldn't trump logic and fairness.
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There's no fairness after this big disruptions. There's no logic.
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You’re probably right
You better watch out - you’ll be made Prime Minister at this rate
because as i said the top top 8 teams are closer to relegation than they are the league leaders.
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 25 seconds ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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if thats the case, then why not go back and do it for all previous premier league seasons whilst your at it too?
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 15 seconds ago
because as i said the top top 8 teams are closer to relegation than they are the league leaders.
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There's just no fairer option. The CL places playoffs need 8 teams and then logically you'd just continue that to determine the title.
pretty sure Liverpool were top 8 in most of the last 30 seasons, that'd be 30 undeserved shots at the title
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 25 seconds ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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if thats the case, then why not go back and do it for all previous premier league seasons whilst your at it too?
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Because those seasons finished and don't need a playoff to decide relegation places, CL places and title winners. Can't believe that needed explaining
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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If they didn’t win it?
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 25 seconds ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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if thats the case, then why not go back and do it for all previous premier league seasons whilst your at it too?
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Because those seasons finished and don't need a playoff to decide relegation places, CL places and title winners. Can't believe that needed explaining
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just as silly though isnt it?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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If they didn’t win it?
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Then they only have themselves the blame! They play lowest ranked team (8th place) in the first round, they then play the winner of 4th vs 5th in the semi final meaning they cannot play 2nd or 3rd at that stage and then its the final. They have the easiest possible route to winning the title. If they lose, then they lose. That's the way it happened.
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 25 seconds ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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if thats the case, then why not go back and do it for all previous premier league seasons whilst your at it too?
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Because those seasons finished and don't need a playoff to decide relegation places, CL places and title winners. Can't believe that needed explaining
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just as silly though isnt it?
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It's not silly if this the quickest and most entertaining way of ending the season so we can start next season in good time.
So is the only playoff that is fair one that somehow guarantees Liverpool the title?
What would be the point of a playoff then?
I still think the only way this scenario would be fair if they went back and did the same for every other premier league season too. Im trying to get on board with you here
What would be the point, those seasons ended with full outcomes. This season has not outcome and my solution would provide this season with a full meaningful outcome and otherwise it may not have one.
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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If they didn’t win it?
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Then they only have themselves the blame! They play lowest ranked team (8th place) in the first round, they then play the winner of 4th vs 5th in the semi final meaning they cannot play 2nd or 3rd at that stage and then its the final. They have the easiest possible route to winning the title. If they lose, then they lose. That's the way it happened.
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Not really. One off matches can come down to something as minute as a bit of bad luck, injury, a bad ref decision etc etc.
Why are City included in deciding who qualifies for the CL?
Because City are 2nd and need to be included in the playoff for the title. We can come up with some alternative decision for who takes their CL place (assuming they beat Wolves)
Wolves beat City in both league games this season so how can that be assumed?
Because Wolves are shiiiit. And City are playing Sheffield not wolves actually, so assuming City beat Sheffield.
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 33 minutes ago
If this happens then we would have a bye to the final and a 4-0 head start.
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Why? The whole point is that 1st plays 8th to get the (theoretically) easiest chance to reach the semis and then 1st plays the winner of 4th vs 5th again to avoid the 2nd place team if possible until the final.
If Liverpool lose to 4th, 5th or 8th, and don't reach the final, that's their own fault.
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Nah
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Hmmm?
Are you scared that Liverpool might lose perhaps?
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Well no because your ridiculous idea will never happen.
But in any match, anything can happen. Look what happened when we played Watford for example. So yeah, asking a team 25 points clear and with no competition to suddenly have competition through no fault of their own won't work
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If it was this or void the season which would you choose?
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Neither because they are both ridiculous ideas.
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because City are 2nd and need to be included in the playoff for the title. We can come up with some alternative decision for who takes their CL place (assuming they beat Wolves)
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So it’s a playoff for the title now, not to decide who qualifies for the CL. Strange thing to do considering the team in first place have a 25 point lead.
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posted on 16/4/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because it's more exciting if 8 pretty good teams are competing for the title rather than 2.
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Excitement shouldn't trump logic and fairness.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
So Spurs in 8th place after a terrible season would have a genuine shot at winning the title?
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You have the least shot because you're playing the team in 1st in the first round
See, it's fair.
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Why would we even be involved when we can't mathematically win the title at the moment?
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Read the aritcle. the playoffs are for CL qualification not just the title
The world doesn't revolved around Liverpool and their PL title, as much as some people seem to think it does.
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Why not just have separate play offs for CL qualification only? We shouldn't be allowed to compete for a title.
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Only after the CL and EL places have played a playoff with the relegation teams to decide relegation, make it exciting. This way relegation teams have a shot at not only suriving relegation but... wait for it... european places.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 11 seconds ago
Because it's more exciting if 8 pretty good teams are competing for the title rather than 2.
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Forest, Leeds and West Brom are ‘pretty good’ too - should we include them also?
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We could have a big playoff tournament for the championship too!
Promoted teams would be two finalists and winner of a third place playoff.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because it's more exciting if 8 pretty good teams are competing for the title rather than 2.
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Excitement shouldn't trump logic and fairness.
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There's no fairness after this big disruptions. There's no logic.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
So Spurs in 8th place after a terrible season would have a genuine shot at winning the title?
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You have the least shot because you're playing the team in 1st in the first round
See, it's fair.
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Why would we even be involved when we can't mathematically win the title at the moment?
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Read the aritcle. the playoffs are for CL qualification not just the title
The world doesn't revolved around Liverpool and their PL title, as much as some people seem to think it does.
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Why not just have separate play offs for CL qualification only? We shouldn't be allowed to compete for a title.
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Only after the CL and EL places have played a playoff with the relegation teams to decide relegation, make it exciting. This way relegation teams have a shot at not only suriving relegation but... wait for it... european places.
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Why?
What's so ridiculous about the bottom 6 teams competiting to avoid relegation and the top 8 teams competiting for CL places and the title.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because it's more exciting if 8 pretty good teams are competing for the title rather than 2.
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Excitement shouldn't trump logic and fairness.
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There's no fairness after this big disruptions. There's no logic.
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You’re probably right
You better watch out - you’ll be made Prime Minister at this rate
posted on 16/4/20
because as i said the top top 8 teams are closer to relegation than they are the league leaders.
posted on 16/4/20
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 25 seconds ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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if thats the case, then why not go back and do it for all previous premier league seasons whilst your at it too?
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 15 seconds ago
because as i said the top top 8 teams are closer to relegation than they are the league leaders.
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There's just no fairer option. The CL places playoffs need 8 teams and then logically you'd just continue that to determine the title.
posted on 16/4/20
pretty sure Liverpool were top 8 in most of the last 30 seasons, that'd be 30 undeserved shots at the title
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 25 seconds ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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if thats the case, then why not go back and do it for all previous premier league seasons whilst your at it too?
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Because those seasons finished and don't need a playoff to decide relegation places, CL places and title winners. Can't believe that needed explaining
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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If they didn’t win it?
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 25 seconds ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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if thats the case, then why not go back and do it for all previous premier league seasons whilst your at it too?
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Because those seasons finished and don't need a playoff to decide relegation places, CL places and title winners. Can't believe that needed explaining
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just as silly though isnt it?
posted on 16/4/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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If they didn’t win it?
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Then they only have themselves the blame! They play lowest ranked team (8th place) in the first round, they then play the winner of 4th vs 5th in the semi final meaning they cannot play 2nd or 3rd at that stage and then its the final. They have the easiest possible route to winning the title. If they lose, then they lose. That's the way it happened.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 25 seconds ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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if thats the case, then why not go back and do it for all previous premier league seasons whilst your at it too?
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Because those seasons finished and don't need a playoff to decide relegation places, CL places and title winners. Can't believe that needed explaining
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just as silly though isnt it?
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It's not silly if this the quickest and most entertaining way of ending the season so we can start next season in good time.
posted on 16/4/20
So is the only playoff that is fair one that somehow guarantees Liverpool the title?
What would be the point of a playoff then?
posted on 16/4/20
I still think the only way this scenario would be fair if they went back and did the same for every other premier league season too. Im trying to get on board with you here
posted on 16/4/20
What would be the point, those seasons ended with full outcomes. This season has not outcome and my solution would provide this season with a full meaningful outcome and otherwise it may not have one.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
This wouldn't take away Liverpool's title. It's very conceivable they'd win the title in this scenario.
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If they didn’t win it?
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Then they only have themselves the blame! They play lowest ranked team (8th place) in the first round, they then play the winner of 4th vs 5th in the semi final meaning they cannot play 2nd or 3rd at that stage and then its the final. They have the easiest possible route to winning the title. If they lose, then they lose. That's the way it happened.
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Not really. One off matches can come down to something as minute as a bit of bad luck, injury, a bad ref decision etc etc.
Why are City included in deciding who qualifies for the CL?
posted on 16/4/20
Because City are 2nd and need to be included in the playoff for the title. We can come up with some alternative decision for who takes their CL place (assuming they beat Wolves)
posted on 16/4/20
Wolves beat City in both league games this season so how can that be assumed?
posted on 16/4/20
Because Wolves are shiiiit. And City are playing Sheffield not wolves actually, so assuming City beat Sheffield.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 33 minutes ago
If this happens then we would have a bye to the final and a 4-0 head start.
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Why? The whole point is that 1st plays 8th to get the (theoretically) easiest chance to reach the semis and then 1st plays the winner of 4th vs 5th again to avoid the 2nd place team if possible until the final.
If Liverpool lose to 4th, 5th or 8th, and don't reach the final, that's their own fault.
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Nah
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Hmmm?
Are you scared that Liverpool might lose perhaps?
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Well no because your ridiculous idea will never happen.
But in any match, anything can happen. Look what happened when we played Watford for example. So yeah, asking a team 25 points clear and with no competition to suddenly have competition through no fault of their own won't work
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If it was this or void the season which would you choose?
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Neither because they are both ridiculous ideas.
posted on 16/4/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because City are 2nd and need to be included in the playoff for the title. We can come up with some alternative decision for who takes their CL place (assuming they beat Wolves)
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So it’s a playoff for the title now, not to decide who qualifies for the CL. Strange thing to do considering the team in first place have a 25 point lead.
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