If the leagues manage to resume, even of its BCD, there is zero chance a full European season can be canceled in my opinion.
Just end the season as it is, or do the average points per game idea and be done with it, teams who finish third in the EFL get promoted.
It's not ideal, but lots of people and businesses are having to do things which aren't ideal at the moment, that's the world we currently live in. Football, as we've known for years tbf, seems to be living on a different planet to the rest of the world.
If, on 1st June, police are still telling people not to congregate in groups of even 4-5 who aren't from the same household to help stop the spread of Covid-19, how can multiple football matches go ahead?
Twenty-two players, seven subs, 7-8 coaches, physios etc, four-match officials, 6-8 ball boys etc, if it's not safe for large gathering to take place how does 40-50 people meeting for a contact sport go ahead without endangering their welfare?
I think Rooney and Willian have mentioned this, the later talking about the worry of coming home and passing it on to his partner and daughter.
It may be fine come June, but possibly not, football should just take it's lead from health organisations and the government, stop trying to force something which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that important.
OP
Top three to go straight to CL. Chelsea and United to play the winners of play offs between Wolves, Sheffield, Spurs, Arsenal. Winners of said playoff tonpkay each other for the final spot.
There is a level of reward for being ahead at the point the league was stopped. Chelsea and United already in CL positions at close of play and that merit should be rocognised perhaps.
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 minutes ago
Just end the season as it is, or do the average points per game idea and be done with it, teams who finish third in the EFL get promoted.
It's not ideal, but lots of people and businesses are having to do things which aren't ideal at the moment, that's the world we currently live in. Football, as we've known for years tbf, seems to be living on a different planet to the rest of the world.
If, on 1st June, police are still telling people not to congregate in groups of even 4-5 who aren't from the same household to help stop the spread of Covid-19, how can multiple football matches go ahead?
Twenty-two players, seven subs, 7-8 coaches, physios etc, four-match officials, 6-8 ball boys etc, if it's not safe for large gathering to take place how does 40-50 people meeting for a contact sport go ahead without endangering their welfare?
I think Rooney and Willian have mentioned this, the later talking about the worry of coming home and passing it on to his partner and daughter.
It may be fine come June, but possibly not, football should just take it's lead from health organisations and the government, stop trying to force something which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that important.
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I dunno about football not being important. I think people feel.that because it's a sport after all, but does football not support thousands of families and businesses? Its a business with other businesses relying on it and all with employees who have families etc. In that respect, it's as important as any other business IMO.
If Neville is right and clubs will struggle to make it to July financially, then a lot of jobs and livelihoods are at stake, no?
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 3 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
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Is this a wum?
Why don't they just have a 38 game play off where every team plays each other home and away.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 10 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
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All I could imagine here for Game I was a money in the bank ladder match.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 12 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
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FFS, not another United v Wolves game...
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 13 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
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Award no title, give Liverpool a CL place and have the others decide the other qualifying spots.
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 13 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
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Award no title, give Liverpool a CL place and have the others decide the other qualifying spots.
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Naah. Liverpool will get the title.
United will be the biggest losers. Currently occupying a CL.spot which will be taken away from them and they will promptly be demolished by Wolves in the playoffs.
Welcome to the Champions League Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Bookmark this. You heard it here first.
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 minutes ago
Just end the season as it is, or do the average points per game idea and be done with it, teams who finish third in the EFL get promoted.
It's not ideal, but lots of people and businesses are having to do things which aren't ideal at the moment, that's the world we currently live in. Football, as we've known for years tbf, seems to be living on a different planet to the rest of the world.
If, on 1st June, police are still telling people not to congregate in groups of even 4-5 who aren't from the same household to help stop the spread of Covid-19, how can multiple football matches go ahead?
Twenty-two players, seven subs, 7-8 coaches, physios etc, four-match officials, 6-8 ball boys etc, if it's not safe for large gathering to take place how does 40-50 people meeting for a contact sport go ahead without endangering their welfare?
I think Rooney and Willian have mentioned this, the later talking about the worry of coming home and passing it on to his partner and daughter.
It may be fine come June, but possibly not, football should just take it's lead from health organisations and the government, stop trying to force something which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that important.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno about football not being important. I think people feel.that because it's a sport after all, but does football not support thousands of families and businesses? Its a business with other businesses relying on it and all with employees who have families etc. In that respect, it's as important as any other business IMO.
If Neville is right and clubs will struggle to make it to July financially, then a lot of jobs and livelihoods are at stake, no?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
The health and safety of the population is more important than football and the economy, the fact we’ve been in lockdown for two months is testament to this.
Football should return when it is safe to do so, not before.
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
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Nobody said it did but it places football at the level of any other business so its "that" important clearly.
We've only been in lockdown for one month today. It went by quite quickly actually which is good.
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 19 seconds ago
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
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Nobody said it did but it places football at the level of any other business so its "that" important clearly.
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The thread wasn’t about businesses, it’s about play-offs to decide European places, and who qualifies for the CL and EL isn’t “that” important in the grand scheme of things, which was the point, the competition aspect isn’t important at the moment, of course they’re businesses (I never said they weren’t) and like any non-essential business, they need to open when it’s safe to do so.
Bundesliga 'ready to return on 9 May', says German Football League:
Staging professional football games even with only a few hundred people present becomes a logistical challenge. A few weeks ago, the DFL set up a task force to define the necessary medical and hygiene protocols which would be required.
According to plans of the task force, the stadiums will be divided into three zones. Only a maximum of 100 people can be in each of these sections. The inner section belongs to the 22 players, 18 bench players, five referees and around 53 others. The stands are considered the second section, and the area directly surrounding the stadium is the third one.
The plans also include regular testing of players and coaches between training sessions and before every match.
Source: BBC
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 19 seconds ago
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
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Nobody said it did but it places football at the level of any other business so its "that" important clearly.
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The thread wasn’t about businesses, it’s about play-offs to decide European places, and who qualifies for the CL and EL isn’t “that” important in the grand scheme of things, which was the point, the competition aspect isn’t important at the moment, of course they’re businesses (I never said they weren’t) and like any non-essential business, they need to open when it’s safe to do so.
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You said football isn't "that important". I disagreed with that and gave my reasons. That's all.
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 19 seconds ago
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
----
Nobody said it did but it places football at the level of any other business so its "that" important clearly.
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The thread wasn’t about businesses, it’s about play-offs to decide European places, and who qualifies for the CL and EL isn’t “that” important in the grand scheme of things, which was the point, the competition aspect isn’t important at the moment, of course they’re businesses (I never said they weren’t) and like any non-essential business, they need to open when it’s safe to do so.
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You said football isn't "that important". I disagreed with that and gave my reasons. That's all.
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That’s fine, mate. I wasn’t trying to get into an argument, I was just clarifying what I meant.
It does look like they're only interested in play offs to decide who qualifies for Europe.
If true, which teams would be in these play offs?
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Any that can mathematically make Europe or be promoted.
Laughable if they extend it to teams who can mathematically win the title, and City get a shot at it.
Surely if they're going to do average points per game they might as well finish it as it currently stands, unless I'm missing something? Do many PL teams have games in hand?
Villa, Arsenal, City and Sheffield do.
It’s a bit of a baaastard for Arsenal, Villa and Sheffield. Villa will still be relegated on a points per game basis, but could have got out of the relegation zone by winning their game in hand. Arsenal and Sheffield could have jumped up to a potential Europa and CL place. I think there will be enough pressure to get the season finished behind closed doors because of this.
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posted on 23/4/20
If the leagues manage to resume, even of its BCD, there is zero chance a full European season can be canceled in my opinion.
posted on 23/4/20
Just end the season as it is, or do the average points per game idea and be done with it, teams who finish third in the EFL get promoted.
It's not ideal, but lots of people and businesses are having to do things which aren't ideal at the moment, that's the world we currently live in. Football, as we've known for years tbf, seems to be living on a different planet to the rest of the world.
If, on 1st June, police are still telling people not to congregate in groups of even 4-5 who aren't from the same household to help stop the spread of Covid-19, how can multiple football matches go ahead?
Twenty-two players, seven subs, 7-8 coaches, physios etc, four-match officials, 6-8 ball boys etc, if it's not safe for large gathering to take place how does 40-50 people meeting for a contact sport go ahead without endangering their welfare?
I think Rooney and Willian have mentioned this, the later talking about the worry of coming home and passing it on to his partner and daughter.
It may be fine come June, but possibly not, football should just take it's lead from health organisations and the government, stop trying to force something which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that important.
posted on 23/4/20
OP
Top three to go straight to CL. Chelsea and United to play the winners of play offs between Wolves, Sheffield, Spurs, Arsenal. Winners of said playoff tonpkay each other for the final spot.
There is a level of reward for being ahead at the point the league was stopped. Chelsea and United already in CL positions at close of play and that merit should be rocognised perhaps.
posted on 23/4/20
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
posted on 23/4/20
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 minutes ago
Just end the season as it is, or do the average points per game idea and be done with it, teams who finish third in the EFL get promoted.
It's not ideal, but lots of people and businesses are having to do things which aren't ideal at the moment, that's the world we currently live in. Football, as we've known for years tbf, seems to be living on a different planet to the rest of the world.
If, on 1st June, police are still telling people not to congregate in groups of even 4-5 who aren't from the same household to help stop the spread of Covid-19, how can multiple football matches go ahead?
Twenty-two players, seven subs, 7-8 coaches, physios etc, four-match officials, 6-8 ball boys etc, if it's not safe for large gathering to take place how does 40-50 people meeting for a contact sport go ahead without endangering their welfare?
I think Rooney and Willian have mentioned this, the later talking about the worry of coming home and passing it on to his partner and daughter.
It may be fine come June, but possibly not, football should just take it's lead from health organisations and the government, stop trying to force something which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that important.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno about football not being important. I think people feel.that because it's a sport after all, but does football not support thousands of families and businesses? Its a business with other businesses relying on it and all with employees who have families etc. In that respect, it's as important as any other business IMO.
If Neville is right and clubs will struggle to make it to July financially, then a lot of jobs and livelihoods are at stake, no?
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 3 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
------
Is this a wum?
posted on 23/4/20
Why don't they just have a 38 game play off where every team plays each other home and away.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 10 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
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All I could imagine here for Game I was a money in the bank ladder match.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 12 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
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FFS, not another United v Wolves game...
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 13 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
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Award no title, give Liverpool a CL place and have the others decide the other qualifying spots.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 13 minutes ago
The fairest way to do it is:
Game A: Liverpool vs Man City for the title
Game B: Leicester vs Chelsea
Game C: Man Utd vs Wolves
Game D: Sheff Utd vs Spurs
Game E: Loser Game A vs Winner Game D
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game B
Game G: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F = 2nd/3rd place
Game H: Loser Game E vs Loser Game F = 4th/5th place
Game I: Winner of Game G gets to call out Winner of Game A for a shot at the title
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Award no title, give Liverpool a CL place and have the others decide the other qualifying spots.
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Naah. Liverpool will get the title.
United will be the biggest losers. Currently occupying a CL.spot which will be taken away from them and they will promptly be demolished by Wolves in the playoffs.
Welcome to the Champions League Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Bookmark this. You heard it here first.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 4 minutes ago
Just end the season as it is, or do the average points per game idea and be done with it, teams who finish third in the EFL get promoted.
It's not ideal, but lots of people and businesses are having to do things which aren't ideal at the moment, that's the world we currently live in. Football, as we've known for years tbf, seems to be living on a different planet to the rest of the world.
If, on 1st June, police are still telling people not to congregate in groups of even 4-5 who aren't from the same household to help stop the spread of Covid-19, how can multiple football matches go ahead?
Twenty-two players, seven subs, 7-8 coaches, physios etc, four-match officials, 6-8 ball boys etc, if it's not safe for large gathering to take place how does 40-50 people meeting for a contact sport go ahead without endangering their welfare?
I think Rooney and Willian have mentioned this, the later talking about the worry of coming home and passing it on to his partner and daughter.
It may be fine come June, but possibly not, football should just take it's lead from health organisations and the government, stop trying to force something which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that important.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno about football not being important. I think people feel.that because it's a sport after all, but does football not support thousands of families and businesses? Its a business with other businesses relying on it and all with employees who have families etc. In that respect, it's as important as any other business IMO.
If Neville is right and clubs will struggle to make it to July financially, then a lot of jobs and livelihoods are at stake, no?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
The health and safety of the population is more important than football and the economy, the fact we’ve been in lockdown for two months is testament to this.
Football should return when it is safe to do so, not before.
posted on 23/4/20
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
----
Nobody said it did but it places football at the level of any other business so its "that" important clearly.
posted on 23/4/20
We've only been in lockdown for one month today. It went by quite quickly actually which is good.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 19 seconds ago
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
----
Nobody said it did but it places football at the level of any other business so its "that" important clearly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The thread wasn’t about businesses, it’s about play-offs to decide European places, and who qualifies for the CL and EL isn’t “that” important in the grand scheme of things, which was the point, the competition aspect isn’t important at the moment, of course they’re businesses (I never said they weren’t) and like any non-essential business, they need to open when it’s safe to do so.
posted on 23/4/20
Bundesliga 'ready to return on 9 May', says German Football League:
Staging professional football games even with only a few hundred people present becomes a logistical challenge. A few weeks ago, the DFL set up a task force to define the necessary medical and hygiene protocols which would be required.
According to plans of the task force, the stadiums will be divided into three zones. Only a maximum of 100 people can be in each of these sections. The inner section belongs to the 22 players, 18 bench players, five referees and around 53 others. The stands are considered the second section, and the area directly surrounding the stadium is the third one.
The plans also include regular testing of players and coaches between training sessions and before every match.
Source: BBC
posted on 23/4/20
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 19 seconds ago
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
----
Nobody said it did but it places football at the level of any other business so its "that" important clearly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The thread wasn’t about businesses, it’s about play-offs to decide European places, and who qualifies for the CL and EL isn’t “that” important in the grand scheme of things, which was the point, the competition aspect isn’t important at the moment, of course they’re businesses (I never said they weren’t) and like any non-essential business, they need to open when it’s safe to do so.
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You said football isn't "that important". I disagreed with that and gave my reasons. That's all.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 19 seconds ago
Jobs and the future of football clubs doesn’t take precedence over a disease which is killing people or giving people life changing medical conditions.
----
Nobody said it did but it places football at the level of any other business so its "that" important clearly.
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The thread wasn’t about businesses, it’s about play-offs to decide European places, and who qualifies for the CL and EL isn’t “that” important in the grand scheme of things, which was the point, the competition aspect isn’t important at the moment, of course they’re businesses (I never said they weren’t) and like any non-essential business, they need to open when it’s safe to do so.
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You said football isn't "that important". I disagreed with that and gave my reasons. That's all.
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That’s fine, mate. I wasn’t trying to get into an argument, I was just clarifying what I meant.
posted on 23/4/20
posted on 23/4/20
It does look like they're only interested in play offs to decide who qualifies for Europe.
posted on 23/4/20
If true, which teams would be in these play offs?
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Any that can mathematically make Europe or be promoted.
Laughable if they extend it to teams who can mathematically win the title, and City get a shot at it.
posted on 23/4/20
Surely if they're going to do average points per game they might as well finish it as it currently stands, unless I'm missing something? Do many PL teams have games in hand?
posted on 23/4/20
Villa, Arsenal, City and Sheffield do.
posted on 23/4/20
Fair enough
posted on 23/4/20
It’s a bit of a baaastard for Arsenal, Villa and Sheffield. Villa will still be relegated on a points per game basis, but could have got out of the relegation zone by winning their game in hand. Arsenal and Sheffield could have jumped up to a potential Europa and CL place. I think there will be enough pressure to get the season finished behind closed doors because of this.
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