Just freeze the positions and end it. Save facking about with play off nonsense.
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 30 minutes ago
It’s a bit of a baaastard for Arsenal, Villa and Sheffield. Villa will still be relegated on a points per game basis, but could have got out of the relegation zone by winning their game in hand. Arsenal and Sheffield could have jumped up to a potential Europa and CL place. I think there will be enough pressure to get the season finished behind closed doors because of this.
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But this is good for United, no?
Or are you basing this opinion on principle?
Calling it as it is means United get CL football. Can't see City's ban being overturned at this rate.
Why is it? We would be relying on City’s ban being upheld to qualify for the CL. That’s a risky thing to pin your future prospects on, when finishing the season would give us the chance to finish in a CL spot outright.
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is it? We would be relying on City’s ban being upheld to qualify for the CL. That’s a risky thing to pin your future prospects on, when finishing the season would give us the chance to finish in a CL spot outright.
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So nothing to lose and everything to gain
Oh wait, but that opens up the possibility of getting caught by teams below you. No guarantee it cant happen, in which case you'd have no CL, whether City's ban is upheld or not won't matter.
Yeah there’s still something to lose. But I suspect the club will be more confident that they can overturn a three point lead to Chelsea in nine games rather than worrying about the teams below them catching them.
As we’ve established before, it does appear that every club wants to finish the season. Well, apart from West Ham.
Is there a link for this news?
Belgian Jupiter League cancelled. Dutch Ere Divisie to be cancelled.
Who is next?
UEFA telling the national football associations to select clubs to take part in European competition next season (if European football can even happen...)
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52399043
Using coefficients would see United out of CL.
The season can't resume fast enough.
Depends what date they take the coefficients from.
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Playoffs would be the fairest way to end the season.
We can’t be awarding anything to any team, or relegating teams based on a partially completed campaign. But at the same time, the logistics of cramming in all the remaining games quickly enough is too much.
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
I’d do playoffs, win-or-go-home style... probably in the Birmingham area. Top 10 in the current standings battle it out for the title.
Bottom 6 do elimination games (20th vs 15th, 19th vs 16th, 18th vs 17th), with the 3 losers going down.
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
Depends what date they take the coefficients from.
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Oh yeah, maybe three years?
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Say what?
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 5 minutes ago
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Say what?
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It's LiquidGenius, he says stuff like this.
Seems like coefficients are off the table with UEFA making statements around results being 'sporting'.
Aside from the farcical nature of organising them, playoffs aren't really much fairer than coefficients. One-off games in empty stadiums will do little to nothing to represent what would've happened had the league continued as normal. Plus there's no precedent for how it would work. It all seems very arbitrary. Which the whole 'finish the season' argument is to be fair. It's only being done for the UEFA/TV money.
Forget about promotions and relegations, work out league placings based on PPG. I think the majority of teams could get behind this.
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Before the break, you lost 3-0 to Watford, home & away to Atlético, and to Chelsea. Your form tanked.
Not to mention Liverpool have something in the club’s DNA that makes them choke (The Slip, Karius, Anfield 89 etc.)
I could easily see City winning all their games and pinching the title.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Say what?
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Before the break, you lost 3-0 to Watford, home & away to Atlético, and to Chelsea. Your form tanked.
Not to mention Liverpool have something in the club’s DNA that makes them choke (The Slip, Karius, Anfield 89 etc.)
I could easily see City winning all their games and pinching the title.
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Currently we are the third ranked English team in the coefficients. We’d be out if they used coefficients excluding the points gained this season, however. It won’t happen anyway, using coefficients is a ridiculous idea.
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Inter fans would be fuming.
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comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Say what?
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Before the break, you lost 3-0 to Watford, home & away to Atlético, and to Chelsea. Your form tanked.
Not to mention Liverpool have something in the club’s DNA that makes them choke (The Slip, Karius, Anfield 89 etc.)
I could easily see City winning all their games and pinching the title.
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Within the same time frame City lost to Spurs and drew with Palace at home. Also lost to United.
How would City fans feel if they got given a playoff vs Liverpool for the title?
I remember the Charity Shield at the start of this season, felt we were the better team after the 2nd half and deserved to win, but i remember feeling that even if we won it it'd be empty, not that the cup means much anyway but if i remember we were only in it because City won the FA cup and league meaning they played 2nd place in it, so really we had no merit being there
I imagine this would be the case for City fans in this scenario.
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posted on 23/4/20
Just freeze the positions and end it. Save facking about with play off nonsense.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 30 minutes ago
It’s a bit of a baaastard for Arsenal, Villa and Sheffield. Villa will still be relegated on a points per game basis, but could have got out of the relegation zone by winning their game in hand. Arsenal and Sheffield could have jumped up to a potential Europa and CL place. I think there will be enough pressure to get the season finished behind closed doors because of this.
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But this is good for United, no?
Or are you basing this opinion on principle?
posted on 23/4/20
Calling it as it is means United get CL football. Can't see City's ban being overturned at this rate.
posted on 23/4/20
Why is it? We would be relying on City’s ban being upheld to qualify for the CL. That’s a risky thing to pin your future prospects on, when finishing the season would give us the chance to finish in a CL spot outright.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is it? We would be relying on City’s ban being upheld to qualify for the CL. That’s a risky thing to pin your future prospects on, when finishing the season would give us the chance to finish in a CL spot outright.
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So nothing to lose and everything to gain
posted on 23/4/20
Oh wait, but that opens up the possibility of getting caught by teams below you. No guarantee it cant happen, in which case you'd have no CL, whether City's ban is upheld or not won't matter.
posted on 23/4/20
Yeah there’s still something to lose. But I suspect the club will be more confident that they can overturn a three point lead to Chelsea in nine games rather than worrying about the teams below them catching them.
As we’ve established before, it does appear that every club wants to finish the season. Well, apart from West Ham.
posted on 23/4/20
Is there a link for this news?
posted on 23/4/20
Belgian Jupiter League cancelled. Dutch Ere Divisie to be cancelled.
Who is next?
UEFA telling the national football associations to select clubs to take part in European competition next season (if European football can even happen...)
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52399043
posted on 23/4/20
Using coefficients would see United out of CL.
The season can't resume fast enough.
posted on 23/4/20
Depends what date they take the coefficients from.
posted on 23/4/20
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posted on 23/4/20
Playoffs would be the fairest way to end the season.
We can’t be awarding anything to any team, or relegating teams based on a partially completed campaign. But at the same time, the logistics of cramming in all the remaining games quickly enough is too much.
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
I’d do playoffs, win-or-go-home style... probably in the Birmingham area. Top 10 in the current standings battle it out for the title.
Bottom 6 do elimination games (20th vs 15th, 19th vs 16th, 18th vs 17th), with the 3 losers going down.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
Depends what date they take the coefficients from.
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Oh yeah, maybe three years?
posted on 23/4/20
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Say what?
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 5 minutes ago
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Say what?
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It's LiquidGenius, he says stuff like this.
posted on 23/4/20
Seems like coefficients are off the table with UEFA making statements around results being 'sporting'.
Aside from the farcical nature of organising them, playoffs aren't really much fairer than coefficients. One-off games in empty stadiums will do little to nothing to represent what would've happened had the league continued as normal. Plus there's no precedent for how it would work. It all seems very arbitrary. Which the whole 'finish the season' argument is to be fair. It's only being done for the UEFA/TV money.
Forget about promotions and relegations, work out league placings based on PPG. I think the majority of teams could get behind this.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Say what?
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Before the break, you lost 3-0 to Watford, home & away to Atlético, and to Chelsea. Your form tanked.
Not to mention Liverpool have something in the club’s DNA that makes them choke (The Slip, Karius, Anfield 89 etc.)
I could easily see City winning all their games and pinching the title.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Say what?
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Before the break, you lost 3-0 to Watford, home & away to Atlético, and to Chelsea. Your form tanked.
Not to mention Liverpool have something in the club’s DNA that makes them choke (The Slip, Karius, Anfield 89 etc.)
I could easily see City winning all their games and pinching the title.
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posted on 23/4/20
Currently we are the third ranked English team in the coefficients. We’d be out if they used coefficients excluding the points gained this season, however. It won’t happen anyway, using coefficients is a ridiculous idea.
posted on 23/4/20
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posted on 23/4/20
Inter fans would be fuming.
posted on 23/4/20
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posted on 23/4/20
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
Even with Liverpool, they’re top atm but they were losing game after game before the break. City could feasibly win all their fixtures and reel them in.
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Say what?
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Before the break, you lost 3-0 to Watford, home & away to Atlético, and to Chelsea. Your form tanked.
Not to mention Liverpool have something in the club’s DNA that makes them choke (The Slip, Karius, Anfield 89 etc.)
I could easily see City winning all their games and pinching the title.
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Within the same time frame City lost to Spurs and drew with Palace at home. Also lost to United.
posted on 24/4/20
How would City fans feel if they got given a playoff vs Liverpool for the title?
I remember the Charity Shield at the start of this season, felt we were the better team after the 2nd half and deserved to win, but i remember feeling that even if we won it it'd be empty, not that the cup means much anyway but if i remember we were only in it because City won the FA cup and league meaning they played 2nd place in it, so really we had no merit being there
I imagine this would be the case for City fans in this scenario.
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