comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 2 minutes ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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And strangely enough the ones that are so vocal against an independent inquiry are the same ones that say the ruling bodies have been corrupt for over a century!!
ffs how many times?
Have the bloody thing but at least let's see what it's all about eh?
Incompetence?
Like we all didn't know.
Something more sinister? Crack on.
oh and on the OP that was an interesting read.
I actually had no idea that's how it had happened. genuinely don't think its worked though rangers and celtic have simply alternated periods of dominance.
back to a big league for me
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 11 seconds ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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I cant either there is enough evidence in the public domain of gross incompetence to merit an independent investigation.
So why dont people want it, these duds have presided over a terrible period of our game and an opportunity is there to hold them to account for something and folk dont want it.
Is it just because rangers are leading it?
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That is my point. I have no problem with Rangers or anyone holding the SPFL to account with evidence but to say there is evidnec in the public domain is nonsense.
Where is it? Don't give me your opinion, Twitter, Facebook or "journalists". Where is this evidence?
If it is there then why are Rangers saying they won't release it when it is already out there?
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
oh and on the OP that was an interesting read.
I actually had no idea that's how it had happened. genuinely don't think its worked though rangers and celtic have simply alternated periods of dominance.
back to a big league for me
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I thought it was interesting but am against a huge league. If you think some midweek games or trips to Dingwall or Perth are dull then add in another 4. Over half of the games by half way through the season will be meaningless as most are safe from relegation and only two have a chance at the title
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
oh and on the OP that was an interesting read.
I actually had no idea that's how it had happened. genuinely don't think its worked though rangers and celtic have simply alternated periods of dominance.
back to a big league for me
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I thought it was interesting but am against a huge league. If you think some midweek games or trips to Dingwall or Perth are dull then add in another 4. Over half of the games by half way through the season will be meaningless as most are safe from relegation and only two have a chance at the title
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Read that yesterday..times have changed, I would be in favour of a 14 team league that insisted on grass pitches. Far rather play against Morton on grass than hamilton/killie etc.
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 11 seconds ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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I cant either there is enough evidence in the public domain of gross incompetence to merit an independent investigation.
So why dont people want it, these duds have presided over a terrible period of our game and an opportunity is there to hold them to account for something and folk dont want it.
Is it just because rangers are leading it?
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That is my point. I have no problem with Rangers or anyone holding the SPFL to account with evidence but to say there is evidnec in the public domain is nonsense.
Where is it? Don't give me your opinion, Twitter, Facebook or "journalists". Where is this evidence?
If it is there then why are Rangers saying they won't release it when it is already out there?
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There is no evidence of incompetence in the public domain?!! Votes going missing!! A 5pm deadline to vote which transpired to be 28 days!! The results issued before everyone had voted!! The results issued before the 28 day deadline!! The results issued when it was k own one club had yet to vote!! The results issued when it was known it would hand that club the deciding vote and resultant power to make deals!! The deals being made to ensure the outstanding vote went in favour of the proposal!! The bribery of the restructuring which was never part of the vote!! The threat that only a yes vote would result in clubs receiving money when that was not the case!!
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that there is plenty of evidence in the public domain that shows the whole process has been handled with incompetence!!
Has anyone actually stated they don't want an investigation?
I haven't seen many clubs go down that route, not to say they aren't behind closed doors.
As for fans, haven't really seen anyone state they wouldn't welcome an investigation.
The main talking point would appear to be that Rangers are trying to get clubs onside by trusting them that their whistle-blowing evidence is solid rather than actually letting everyone see it.
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
comment by GTB, I like big bouncing smack your face titties (U14017)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
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Rangers have asked for a general meeting, but I think they really need an EGM to force the spfl board to go to an independent inquiry. Although I might be misunderstanding.
comment by (U22371)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 11 seconds ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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I cant either there is enough evidence in the public domain of gross incompetence to merit an independent investigation.
So why dont people want it, these duds have presided over a terrible period of our game and an opportunity is there to hold them to account for something and folk dont want it.
Is it just because rangers are leading it?
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That is my point. I have no problem with Rangers or anyone holding the SPFL to account with evidence but to say there is evidnec in the public domain is nonsense.
Where is it? Don't give me your opinion, Twitter, Facebook or "journalists". Where is this evidence?
If it is there then why are Rangers saying they won't release it when it is already out there?
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There is no evidence of incompetence in the public domain?!! Votes going missing!! A 5pm deadline to vote which transpired to be 28 days!! The results issued before everyone had voted!! The results issued before the 28 day deadline!! The results issued when it was k own one club had yet to vote!! The results issued when it was known it would hand that club the deciding vote and resultant power to make deals!! The deals being made to ensure the outstanding vote went in favour of the proposal!! The bribery of the restructuring which was never part of the vote!! The threat that only a yes vote would result in clubs receiving money when that was not the case!!
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that there is plenty of evidence in the public domain that shows the whole process has been handled with incompetence!!
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So again
Where is this evidence? You have given a lot of conjecture which is all over the place. Who shared the results? Was it the SPFL heads? Was it a board member who is a club rep?
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that the "evidence" in the public domain is simply conjecture at this point from journalists and social media
Why do you have two accounts? Is it so that you can filter from one account to stop posters from commenting on your articles then on this account commenting on posts from those you don't want to read?
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posted 21 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
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They wanted the immediate sacking of the chairman and the suspension of the legal advisor which is where there would have to be an EGM
By absence of mention since then it looks on the surface as they've been advised against that as it is no longer in the list of demands.
If this is the case a general meeting can be requested.
I think anyway
I see the idea of up to 5 subs in a game is being touted to help with fixture backlog which presumably is to help prevent excuses of player tiredness and requests to extend the league season further.
The 5 subs can be used over 3 slots so to speak ie you cannot make more than 3 times to make subs so either 2 or 3 at a time to manage the 5
Good idea in my opinion but I'm not convinced many would use it as changing half of your team in a game would significantly impact your play
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Seria A and Bundesliga players back in training in the next 2 weeks or so gives cause for optimism.
Would be good to get the fitbaw at least on the tele.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTB, I like big bouncing smack your face titti... (U14017)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
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They wanted the immediate sacking of the chairman and the suspension of the legal advisor which is where there would have to be an EGM
By absence of mention since then it looks on the surface as they've been advised against that as it is no longer in the list of demands.
If this is the case a general meeting can be requested.
I think anyway
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So
We demand the season is null and void
We demand the season is null and void with no behind closed doors games
We demand a vote on our own preferences
We demand an investigation into the SPFL vote
We demand an investigation into the investigation
We demand a General Meeting
What's next as they get put back in their box each time?
We demand an email exchange or we demand a skype call to chat things through
Then when none of what they demanded happens and the league restarts with Celtic winning it properly they will make a statement saying it doesn't count WATP No surrender etc
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this serious... (U1850)
posted 2 minutes ago
Where is this evidence?
Rangers have said they will disclose the evidence in ample time
I’m not a huge fan of all that our board does but I see the logic in withholding the evidence until they are happy it won’t be compromised
If they do not have anything substantial then it will take care of itself and they will look kinda daft
So let’s just wait as there’s fook all else going on atm to keep us occupied
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See for me they are just playing a game to appeal to the masses. As I said earlier this should all be done through a whistleblower where you provide your evidence then let them do the investigation. By making it so public and then the investigation goes against their claims they have been left with nothing but digging in further
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
Seria A and Bundesliga players back in training in the next 2 weeks or so gives cause for optimism.
Would be good to get the fitbaw at least on the tele.
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Can't wait to get some football going
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTB, I like big bouncing smack your face titti... (U14017)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
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They wanted the immediate sacking of the chairman and the suspension of the legal advisor which is where there would have to be an EGM
By absence of mention since then it looks on the surface as they've been advised against that as it is no longer in the list of demands.
If this is the case a general meeting can be requested.
I think anyway
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So
We demand the season is null and void
We demand the season is null and void with no behind closed doors games
We demand a vote on our own preferences
We demand an investigation into the SPFL vote
We demand an investigation into the investigation
We demand a General Meeting
What's next as they get put back in their box each time?
We demand an email exchange or we demand a skype call to chat things through
Then when none of what they demanded happens and the league restarts with Celtic winning it properly they will make a statement saying it doesn't count WATP No surrender etc
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Have Rangers demanded that the season be null and void?
I thought their stance all along was to have the opportunity to finish the season?
I genuinely didn't know we had demanded otherwise.
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (U22371)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 11 seconds ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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I cant either there is enough evidence in the public domain of gross incompetence to merit an independent investigation.
So why dont people want it, these duds have presided over a terrible period of our game and an opportunity is there to hold them to account for something and folk dont want it.
Is it just because rangers are leading it?
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That is my point. I have no problem with Rangers or anyone holding the SPFL to account with evidence but to say there is evidnec in the public domain is nonsense.
Where is it? Don't give me your opinion, Twitter, Facebook or "journalists". Where is this evidence?
If it is there then why are Rangers saying they won't release it when it is already out there?
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There is no evidence of incompetence in the public domain?!! Votes going missing!! A 5pm deadline to vote which transpired to be 28 days!! The results issued before everyone had voted!! The results issued before the 28 day deadline!! The results issued when it was k own one club had yet to vote!! The results issued when it was known it would hand that club the deciding vote and resultant power to make deals!! The deals being made to ensure the outstanding vote went in favour of the proposal!! The bribery of the restructuring which was never part of the vote!! The threat that only a yes vote would result in clubs receiving money when that was not the case!!
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that there is plenty of evidence in the public domain that shows the whole process has been handled with incompetence!!
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So again
Where is this evidence? You have given a lot of conjecture which is all over the place. Who shared the results? Was it the SPFL heads? Was it a board member who is a club rep?
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that the "evidence" in the public domain is simply conjecture at this point from journalists and social media
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I think your both being rather picky with the words.
The question really is; do we have enough information in the public domain, either by fact, or by conjecture that might bring about enough concern that further investigation is required.
If the answer is no then fine.
If yes then also fine.
The very fact that we have a debate on what is conjecture and what is fact would be why I feel further investigation is required.
Clear it up.
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this serious... (U1850)
posted 4 minutes ago
Where is this evidence?
Rangers have said they will disclose the evidence in ample time
I’m not a huge fan of all that our board does but I see the logic in withholding the evidence until they are happy it won’t be compromised
If they do not have anything substantial then it will take care of itself and they will look kinda daft
So let’s just wait as there’s fook all else going on atm to keep us occupied
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Sorry Zach but how can it be tampered with?
Rangers will still hold all the evidence and the more they share it, the more likely they are to get support.
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTB, I like big bouncing smack your face titti... (U14017)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
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They wanted the immediate sacking of the chairman and the suspension of the legal advisor which is where there would have to be an EGM
By absence of mention since then it looks on the surface as they've been advised against that as it is no longer in the list of demands.
If this is the case a general meeting can be requested.
I think anyway
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So
We demand the season is null and void
We demand the season is null and void with no behind closed doors games
We demand a vote on our own preferences
We demand an investigation into the SPFL vote
We demand an investigation into the investigation
We demand a General Meeting
What's next as they get put back in their box each time?
We demand an email exchange or we demand a skype call to chat things through
Then when none of what they demanded happens and the league restarts with Celtic winning it properly they will make a statement saying it doesn't count WATP No surrender etc
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Have Rangers demanded that the season be null and void?
I thought their stance all along was to have the opportunity to finish the season?
I genuinely didn't know we had demanded otherwise.
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Yes they have released a statement or two on it
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posted on 27/4/20
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 2 minutes ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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And strangely enough the ones that are so vocal against an independent inquiry are the same ones that say the ruling bodies have been corrupt for over a century!!
posted on 27/4/20
ffs how many times?
Have the bloody thing but at least let's see what it's all about eh?
Incompetence?
Like we all didn't know.
Something more sinister? Crack on.
posted on 27/4/20
oh and on the OP that was an interesting read.
I actually had no idea that's how it had happened. genuinely don't think its worked though rangers and celtic have simply alternated periods of dominance.
back to a big league for me
posted on 27/4/20
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 11 seconds ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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I cant either there is enough evidence in the public domain of gross incompetence to merit an independent investigation.
So why dont people want it, these duds have presided over a terrible period of our game and an opportunity is there to hold them to account for something and folk dont want it.
Is it just because rangers are leading it?
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That is my point. I have no problem with Rangers or anyone holding the SPFL to account with evidence but to say there is evidnec in the public domain is nonsense.
Where is it? Don't give me your opinion, Twitter, Facebook or "journalists". Where is this evidence?
If it is there then why are Rangers saying they won't release it when it is already out there?
posted on 27/4/20
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
oh and on the OP that was an interesting read.
I actually had no idea that's how it had happened. genuinely don't think its worked though rangers and celtic have simply alternated periods of dominance.
back to a big league for me
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I thought it was interesting but am against a huge league. If you think some midweek games or trips to Dingwall or Perth are dull then add in another 4. Over half of the games by half way through the season will be meaningless as most are safe from relegation and only two have a chance at the title
posted on 27/4/20
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
oh and on the OP that was an interesting read.
I actually had no idea that's how it had happened. genuinely don't think its worked though rangers and celtic have simply alternated periods of dominance.
back to a big league for me
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I thought it was interesting but am against a huge league. If you think some midweek games or trips to Dingwall or Perth are dull then add in another 4. Over half of the games by half way through the season will be meaningless as most are safe from relegation and only two have a chance at the title
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Read that yesterday..times have changed, I would be in favour of a 14 team league that insisted on grass pitches. Far rather play against Morton on grass than hamilton/killie etc.
posted on 27/4/20
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 11 seconds ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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I cant either there is enough evidence in the public domain of gross incompetence to merit an independent investigation.
So why dont people want it, these duds have presided over a terrible period of our game and an opportunity is there to hold them to account for something and folk dont want it.
Is it just because rangers are leading it?
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That is my point. I have no problem with Rangers or anyone holding the SPFL to account with evidence but to say there is evidnec in the public domain is nonsense.
Where is it? Don't give me your opinion, Twitter, Facebook or "journalists". Where is this evidence?
If it is there then why are Rangers saying they won't release it when it is already out there?
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There is no evidence of incompetence in the public domain?!! Votes going missing!! A 5pm deadline to vote which transpired to be 28 days!! The results issued before everyone had voted!! The results issued before the 28 day deadline!! The results issued when it was k own one club had yet to vote!! The results issued when it was known it would hand that club the deciding vote and resultant power to make deals!! The deals being made to ensure the outstanding vote went in favour of the proposal!! The bribery of the restructuring which was never part of the vote!! The threat that only a yes vote would result in clubs receiving money when that was not the case!!
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that there is plenty of evidence in the public domain that shows the whole process has been handled with incompetence!!
posted on 27/4/20
Has anyone actually stated they don't want an investigation?
I haven't seen many clubs go down that route, not to say they aren't behind closed doors.
As for fans, haven't really seen anyone state they wouldn't welcome an investigation.
The main talking point would appear to be that Rangers are trying to get clubs onside by trusting them that their whistle-blowing evidence is solid rather than actually letting everyone see it.
posted on 27/4/20
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
posted on 27/4/20
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
posted on 27/4/20
comment by GTB, I like big bouncing smack your face titties (U14017)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
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Rangers have asked for a general meeting, but I think they really need an EGM to force the spfl board to go to an independent inquiry. Although I might be misunderstanding.
posted on 27/4/20
comment by (U22371)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 11 seconds ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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I cant either there is enough evidence in the public domain of gross incompetence to merit an independent investigation.
So why dont people want it, these duds have presided over a terrible period of our game and an opportunity is there to hold them to account for something and folk dont want it.
Is it just because rangers are leading it?
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That is my point. I have no problem with Rangers or anyone holding the SPFL to account with evidence but to say there is evidnec in the public domain is nonsense.
Where is it? Don't give me your opinion, Twitter, Facebook or "journalists". Where is this evidence?
If it is there then why are Rangers saying they won't release it when it is already out there?
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There is no evidence of incompetence in the public domain?!! Votes going missing!! A 5pm deadline to vote which transpired to be 28 days!! The results issued before everyone had voted!! The results issued before the 28 day deadline!! The results issued when it was k own one club had yet to vote!! The results issued when it was known it would hand that club the deciding vote and resultant power to make deals!! The deals being made to ensure the outstanding vote went in favour of the proposal!! The bribery of the restructuring which was never part of the vote!! The threat that only a yes vote would result in clubs receiving money when that was not the case!!
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that there is plenty of evidence in the public domain that shows the whole process has been handled with incompetence!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So again
Where is this evidence? You have given a lot of conjecture which is all over the place. Who shared the results? Was it the SPFL heads? Was it a board member who is a club rep?
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that the "evidence" in the public domain is simply conjecture at this point from journalists and social media
posted on 27/4/20
Why do you have two accounts? Is it so that you can filter from one account to stop posters from commenting on your articles then on this account commenting on posts from those you don't want to read?
posted on 27/4/20
comment by GTB, I like big bouncing smack your face titti... (U14017)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
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They wanted the immediate sacking of the chairman and the suspension of the legal advisor which is where there would have to be an EGM
By absence of mention since then it looks on the surface as they've been advised against that as it is no longer in the list of demands.
If this is the case a general meeting can be requested.
I think anyway
posted on 27/4/20
I see the idea of up to 5 subs in a game is being touted to help with fixture backlog which presumably is to help prevent excuses of player tiredness and requests to extend the league season further.
The 5 subs can be used over 3 slots so to speak ie you cannot make more than 3 times to make subs so either 2 or 3 at a time to manage the 5
Good idea in my opinion but I'm not convinced many would use it as changing half of your team in a game would significantly impact your play
posted on 27/4/20
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posted on 27/4/20
Seria A and Bundesliga players back in training in the next 2 weeks or so gives cause for optimism.
Would be good to get the fitbaw at least on the tele.
posted on 27/4/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTB, I like big bouncing smack your face titti... (U14017)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They wanted the immediate sacking of the chairman and the suspension of the legal advisor which is where there would have to be an EGM
By absence of mention since then it looks on the surface as they've been advised against that as it is no longer in the list of demands.
If this is the case a general meeting can be requested.
I think anyway
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So
We demand the season is null and void
We demand the season is null and void with no behind closed doors games
We demand a vote on our own preferences
We demand an investigation into the SPFL vote
We demand an investigation into the investigation
We demand a General Meeting
What's next as they get put back in their box each time?
We demand an email exchange or we demand a skype call to chat things through
Then when none of what they demanded happens and the league restarts with Celtic winning it properly they will make a statement saying it doesn't count WATP No surrender etc
posted on 27/4/20
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this serious... (U1850)
posted 2 minutes ago
Where is this evidence?
Rangers have said they will disclose the evidence in ample time
I’m not a huge fan of all that our board does but I see the logic in withholding the evidence until they are happy it won’t be compromised
If they do not have anything substantial then it will take care of itself and they will look kinda daft
So let’s just wait as there’s fook all else going on atm to keep us occupied
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See for me they are just playing a game to appeal to the masses. As I said earlier this should all be done through a whistleblower where you provide your evidence then let them do the investigation. By making it so public and then the investigation goes against their claims they have been left with nothing but digging in further
posted on 27/4/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
Seria A and Bundesliga players back in training in the next 2 weeks or so gives cause for optimism.
Would be good to get the fitbaw at least on the tele.
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Can't wait to get some football going
posted on 27/4/20
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTB, I like big bouncing smack your face titti... (U14017)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
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They wanted the immediate sacking of the chairman and the suspension of the legal advisor which is where there would have to be an EGM
By absence of mention since then it looks on the surface as they've been advised against that as it is no longer in the list of demands.
If this is the case a general meeting can be requested.
I think anyway
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So
We demand the season is null and void
We demand the season is null and void with no behind closed doors games
We demand a vote on our own preferences
We demand an investigation into the SPFL vote
We demand an investigation into the investigation
We demand a General Meeting
What's next as they get put back in their box each time?
We demand an email exchange or we demand a skype call to chat things through
Then when none of what they demanded happens and the league restarts with Celtic winning it properly they will make a statement saying it doesn't count WATP No surrender etc
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Have Rangers demanded that the season be null and void?
I thought their stance all along was to have the opportunity to finish the season?
I genuinely didn't know we had demanded otherwise.
posted on 27/4/20
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (U22371)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 11 seconds ago
I genuinely don’t see an issue in why anyone would want the shambles of a vote looked st by an independent body
It Rangers have been bumping their guns they will be exposed as such if not then surely we should have proper governance. Or do your vows on probity change dependant on what scarf you wear
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I cant either there is enough evidence in the public domain of gross incompetence to merit an independent investigation.
So why dont people want it, these duds have presided over a terrible period of our game and an opportunity is there to hold them to account for something and folk dont want it.
Is it just because rangers are leading it?
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That is my point. I have no problem with Rangers or anyone holding the SPFL to account with evidence but to say there is evidnec in the public domain is nonsense.
Where is it? Don't give me your opinion, Twitter, Facebook or "journalists". Where is this evidence?
If it is there then why are Rangers saying they won't release it when it is already out there?
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There is no evidence of incompetence in the public domain?!! Votes going missing!! A 5pm deadline to vote which transpired to be 28 days!! The results issued before everyone had voted!! The results issued before the 28 day deadline!! The results issued when it was k own one club had yet to vote!! The results issued when it was known it would hand that club the deciding vote and resultant power to make deals!! The deals being made to ensure the outstanding vote went in favour of the proposal!! The bribery of the restructuring which was never part of the vote!! The threat that only a yes vote would result in clubs receiving money when that was not the case!!
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that there is plenty of evidence in the public domain that shows the whole process has been handled with incompetence!!
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So again
Where is this evidence? You have given a lot of conjecture which is all over the place. Who shared the results? Was it the SPFL heads? Was it a board member who is a club rep?
You would need to be really blinkered, bitter or downright stupid to not recognise that the "evidence" in the public domain is simply conjecture at this point from journalists and social media
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I think your both being rather picky with the words.
The question really is; do we have enough information in the public domain, either by fact, or by conjecture that might bring about enough concern that further investigation is required.
If the answer is no then fine.
If yes then also fine.
The very fact that we have a debate on what is conjecture and what is fact would be why I feel further investigation is required.
Clear it up.
posted on 27/4/20
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this serious... (U1850)
posted 4 minutes ago
Where is this evidence?
Rangers have said they will disclose the evidence in ample time
I’m not a huge fan of all that our board does but I see the logic in withholding the evidence until they are happy it won’t be compromised
If they do not have anything substantial then it will take care of itself and they will look kinda daft
So let’s just wait as there’s fook all else going on atm to keep us occupied
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Sorry Zach but how can it be tampered with?
Rangers will still hold all the evidence and the more they share it, the more likely they are to get support.
posted on 27/4/20
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTB, I like big bouncing smack your face titti... (U14017)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
What’s the difference between a general meeting and an EGM?
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It is an EGM that is being looked for isn't it?
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They wanted the immediate sacking of the chairman and the suspension of the legal advisor which is where there would have to be an EGM
By absence of mention since then it looks on the surface as they've been advised against that as it is no longer in the list of demands.
If this is the case a general meeting can be requested.
I think anyway
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So
We demand the season is null and void
We demand the season is null and void with no behind closed doors games
We demand a vote on our own preferences
We demand an investigation into the SPFL vote
We demand an investigation into the investigation
We demand a General Meeting
What's next as they get put back in their box each time?
We demand an email exchange or we demand a skype call to chat things through
Then when none of what they demanded happens and the league restarts with Celtic winning it properly they will make a statement saying it doesn't count WATP No surrender etc
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Have Rangers demanded that the season be null and void?
I thought their stance all along was to have the opportunity to finish the season?
I genuinely didn't know we had demanded otherwise.
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Yes they have released a statement or two on it
posted on 27/4/20
Ta
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