comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 32 minutes ago
Belgium had 11 games left really.
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Well if that's the means of comparison then the EPL have 92.
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What? 11 games each.
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9 game weeks = 10 * 9 = 90.
4 teams with 1 game in hand. = 2 fixtures
Total 92 fixtures.
92 >>>>> 11
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Holy crap
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 32 minutes ago
Belgium had 11 games left really.
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Well if that's the means of comparison then the EPL have 92.
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What? 11 games each.
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9 game weeks = 10 * 9 = 90.
4 teams with 1 game in hand. = 2 fixtures
Total 92 fixtures.
92 >>>>> 11
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I don't see what your point is. We have nine games each, they had 11 games each but still declared champions.
That's direct rewarding of failure and punishing of success. Surely you can't deny that.
=================
Well you can, because its not true.
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 32 minutes ago
Belgium had 11 games left really.
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Well if that's the means of comparison then the EPL have 92.
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What? 11 games each.
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9 game weeks = 10 * 9 = 90.
4 teams with 1 game in hand. = 2 fixtures
Total 92 fixtures.
92 >>>>> 11
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I don't see what your point is. We have nine games each, they had 11 games each but still declared champions.
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No they had 1 game each left to play (played 29 or 30 games) and then a bunch of playoff games amongst the top teams to decide the winner. This is what i thought you were refering to, 11 fixtures in total to fulfil a normal season.
ignoring league positions, we are all in the same position. An abandoned season (if it is indeed not possible to restart). Currently, no one has won the league and no one is confirmed as relegated. Norwich havent failed yet, neither have Bournemouth. How do you deal with Villas game in hand. An av. pts approach would relegate Watford who are not even in the bottom 3 and the form team. The fairest approach to ALL is to apply an approach that is equal on ALL. Some will be more affected and aggrieved than others . It denies LFC the title, it denies Utd & others the chance to make top 4 but in these extraordinary circumstances EVERYONE is being treated the same.
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I don't know why you believe your approach is equal to all. Its equally unfair, if not more unfair than any other option. The fact you can't accept that is concerning.
If it was fair, it would be the most backed option but the fact that you're the only one peddling it should tell you something.
Again why should the approach be equal to all when one team is at the bottom of the table and the other isn't? That is fundamentally unfair.
The resolution should take into account the fact that one team is at the bottom and the other isn't. You can't put them all in the same basket.
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 32 minutes ago
Belgium had 11 games left really.
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Well if that's the means of comparison then the EPL have 92.
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What? 11 games each.
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9 game weeks = 10 * 9 = 90.
4 teams with 1 game in hand. = 2 fixtures
Total 92 fixtures.
92 >>>>> 11
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I don't see what your point is. We have nine games each, they had 11 games each but still declared champions.
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No they had 1 game each left to play (played 29 or 30 games) and then a bunch of playoff games amongst the top teams to decide the winner. This is what i thought you were refering to, 11 fixtures in total to fulfil a normal season.
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Yes so take Club Brugge for example. They had one game of the regular season left, then 10 games in the play off. So that's 11 games for each club. And in the play off round their points gap would have been halved.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
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Why is it stupid and inconsistent?
Or 11 games for each club in the top six anyway.
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
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Why is it stupid and inconsistent?
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Why is giving Liverpool the title, and deciding not to give other clubs a thought or concluding their outcomes, inconsistent? Are you really asking that?
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
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Why is it stupid and inconsistent?
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Why is giving Liverpool the title, and deciding not to give other clubs a thought or concluding their outcomes, inconsistent? Are you really asking that?
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I didn't say any of this is consistent, did I? A question to answer a question?
Read your comment and my question, which is what I wanted to hear.
Next season could possibly be started on time?
WTF😂
Experts reckon this virus will be around till at least the end of the year, and probably into next year.
So void a league with 9 games to be played, that could be concluded in 4 or 5 weeks, in favour of preparing for a season that might start 4 or 5 months late. 😂
Just forget about next season, as you'll never get it done, and concentrate on getting this one finished when it's safe to do so.
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
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Why is it stupid and inconsistent?
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Why is giving Liverpool the title, and deciding not to give other clubs a thought or concluding their outcomes, inconsistent? Are you really asking that?
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I didn't say any of this is consistent, did I? A question to answer a question?
Read your comment and my question, which is what I wanted to hear.
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There is no other feasible alternative than either cancelling the season or carrying it on as far as I'm concerned, if that is the answer you're looking for. Either one works in terms of being consistent for all teams, even if with cancelling it some teams are going to be more hard done by than others, which is why finishing the season would be preferable.
I'm just saying you've decided to stick with that because its convenient but it doesn't make sense at all.
Voiding isn't consistent for all teams
Clearly there are other more feasible and fairer alternatives than what you say, that's popularly accepted but one or two mostly Spurs fans still can't accept that.
Yes it is. The season ends for every team as it stands...that's consistency. You're confusing fairness and consistency. I didn't say it would be fair, I literally made that point in the post above.
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
The solution is cancel next season, forget about football till after the new year in terms of competitive games, have some behind close doors friendlies to get the players back up to speed, and return to competitive games in January 2021.
Finish the 2019/2020 season, then give players a decent rest to prepare for the Euro 2020, in the summer of 2021.👍
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comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
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And if that can't happen then fairness should still take precedence over consistency IMO.
Your proposal is consistent but criminally unfair.
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
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And if that can't happen then fairness should still take precedence over consistency IMO.
Your proposal is consistent but criminally unfair.
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That's just the way it goes. It's unfair that this virus happened.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
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And if that can't happen then fairness should still take precedence over consistency IMO.
Your proposal is consistent but criminally unfair.
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That's just the way it goes. It's unfair that this virus happened.
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You can apply the same to the plans UEFA, the FA, the PFA, the government and the clubs, have in place to restart the season, if you think that isn't fair.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
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And if that can't happen then fairness should still take precedence over consistency IMO.
Your proposal is consistent but criminally unfair.
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That's just the way it goes. It's unfair that this virus happened.
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You can apply the same to the plans UEFA, the FA, the PFA, the government and the clubs, have in place to restart the season, if you think that isn't fair.
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Fair on who?
You advocating declaring LFC winners and everything else void. You cannot level that with then telling WBA and Leeds they are staying put.
You want the decision that's fairest to LFC.
Consistency across the EPL and the leagues is fairest to ALL. Within that some lose and some gain but ultimately it is all in balance. Sorry, the season is abandoned you cannot complete the remaining league and cup fixtures and this may harm some of you but its not favouring one team or another. All those with a chance to win something are affected equally.
You want - Sorry the season is abandoned, LFC are champions all the rest of you with a chance of success bad luck!
It follows that if it is unfair to relegate as fixtures have not been completed, then its not possible to promote as fixtures have not been completed and the same reason (failure to complete fixture) applies in both cases. If you declare LFC as champions and then don't relegate and then don't promote, then the reasoning has been applied unfairly.
Consistency of approach = the greatest level of fairness.
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posted on 30/4/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 32 minutes ago
Belgium had 11 games left really.
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Well if that's the means of comparison then the EPL have 92.
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What? 11 games each.
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9 game weeks = 10 * 9 = 90.
4 teams with 1 game in hand. = 2 fixtures
Total 92 fixtures.
92 >>>>> 11
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Holy crap
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 32 minutes ago
Belgium had 11 games left really.
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Well if that's the means of comparison then the EPL have 92.
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What? 11 games each.
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9 game weeks = 10 * 9 = 90.
4 teams with 1 game in hand. = 2 fixtures
Total 92 fixtures.
92 >>>>> 11
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I don't see what your point is. We have nine games each, they had 11 games each but still declared champions.
posted on 30/4/20
That's direct rewarding of failure and punishing of success. Surely you can't deny that.
=================
Well you can, because its not true.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 32 minutes ago
Belgium had 11 games left really.
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Well if that's the means of comparison then the EPL have 92.
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What? 11 games each.
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9 game weeks = 10 * 9 = 90.
4 teams with 1 game in hand. = 2 fixtures
Total 92 fixtures.
92 >>>>> 11
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I don't see what your point is. We have nine games each, they had 11 games each but still declared champions.
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No they had 1 game each left to play (played 29 or 30 games) and then a bunch of playoff games amongst the top teams to decide the winner. This is what i thought you were refering to, 11 fixtures in total to fulfil a normal season.
posted on 30/4/20
ignoring league positions, we are all in the same position. An abandoned season (if it is indeed not possible to restart). Currently, no one has won the league and no one is confirmed as relegated. Norwich havent failed yet, neither have Bournemouth. How do you deal with Villas game in hand. An av. pts approach would relegate Watford who are not even in the bottom 3 and the form team. The fairest approach to ALL is to apply an approach that is equal on ALL. Some will be more affected and aggrieved than others . It denies LFC the title, it denies Utd & others the chance to make top 4 but in these extraordinary circumstances EVERYONE is being treated the same.
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I don't know why you believe your approach is equal to all. Its equally unfair, if not more unfair than any other option. The fact you can't accept that is concerning.
If it was fair, it would be the most backed option but the fact that you're the only one peddling it should tell you something.
Again why should the approach be equal to all when one team is at the bottom of the table and the other isn't? That is fundamentally unfair.
The resolution should take into account the fact that one team is at the bottom and the other isn't. You can't put them all in the same basket.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 32 minutes ago
Belgium had 11 games left really.
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Well if that's the means of comparison then the EPL have 92.
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What? 11 games each.
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9 game weeks = 10 * 9 = 90.
4 teams with 1 game in hand. = 2 fixtures
Total 92 fixtures.
92 >>>>> 11
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I don't see what your point is. We have nine games each, they had 11 games each but still declared champions.
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No they had 1 game each left to play (played 29 or 30 games) and then a bunch of playoff games amongst the top teams to decide the winner. This is what i thought you were refering to, 11 fixtures in total to fulfil a normal season.
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Yes so take Club Brugge for example. They had one game of the regular season left, then 10 games in the play off. So that's 11 games for each club. And in the play off round their points gap would have been halved.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
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Why is it stupid and inconsistent?
posted on 30/4/20
Or 11 games for each club in the top six anyway.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
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Why is it stupid and inconsistent?
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Why is giving Liverpool the title, and deciding not to give other clubs a thought or concluding their outcomes, inconsistent? Are you really asking that?
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
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Why is it stupid and inconsistent?
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Why is giving Liverpool the title, and deciding not to give other clubs a thought or concluding their outcomes, inconsistent? Are you really asking that?
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I didn't say any of this is consistent, did I? A question to answer a question?
Read your comment and my question, which is what I wanted to hear.
posted on 30/4/20
Next season could possibly be started on time?
WTF😂
Experts reckon this virus will be around till at least the end of the year, and probably into next year.
So void a league with 9 games to be played, that could be concluded in 4 or 5 weeks, in favour of preparing for a season that might start 4 or 5 months late. 😂
Just forget about next season, as you'll never get it done, and concentrate on getting this one finished when it's safe to do so.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
You can't give Liverpool the title and not conclude anything else. it's either conclude everything or nothing.
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Why?
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Because that would be stupid and very inconsistent.
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Why is it stupid and inconsistent?
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Why is giving Liverpool the title, and deciding not to give other clubs a thought or concluding their outcomes, inconsistent? Are you really asking that?
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I didn't say any of this is consistent, did I? A question to answer a question?
Read your comment and my question, which is what I wanted to hear.
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There is no other feasible alternative than either cancelling the season or carrying it on as far as I'm concerned, if that is the answer you're looking for. Either one works in terms of being consistent for all teams, even if with cancelling it some teams are going to be more hard done by than others, which is why finishing the season would be preferable.
posted on 30/4/20
I'm just saying you've decided to stick with that because its convenient but it doesn't make sense at all.
Voiding isn't consistent for all teams
Clearly there are other more feasible and fairer alternatives than what you say, that's popularly accepted but one or two mostly Spurs fans still can't accept that.
posted on 30/4/20
Yes it is. The season ends for every team as it stands...that's consistency. You're confusing fairness and consistency. I didn't say it would be fair, I literally made that point in the post above.
posted on 30/4/20
The Virus isn't fair.
posted on 30/4/20
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
posted on 30/4/20
The solution is cancel next season, forget about football till after the new year in terms of competitive games, have some behind close doors friendlies to get the players back up to speed, and return to competitive games in January 2021.
Finish the 2019/2020 season, then give players a decent rest to prepare for the Euro 2020, in the summer of 2021.👍
posted on 30/4/20
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posted on 30/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
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And if that can't happen then fairness should still take precedence over consistency IMO.
Your proposal is consistent but criminally unfair.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And if that can't happen then fairness should still take precedence over consistency IMO.
Your proposal is consistent but criminally unfair.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's just the way it goes. It's unfair that this virus happened.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
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And if that can't happen then fairness should still take precedence over consistency IMO.
Your proposal is consistent but criminally unfair.
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That's just the way it goes. It's unfair that this virus happened.
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You can apply the same to the plans UEFA, the FA, the PFA, the government and the clubs, have in place to restart the season, if you think that isn't fair.
posted on 30/4/20
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comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
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comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 22 minutes ago
So it's basically useless because it only considers consistency and pays no attention to fairness. I got it now.
What we need is a solution that is both the most consistent and most fair.
Whereas you're proposal may be consistent it is still the most unfair and therefore should be out the door. A balance would be preferable.
The reason you focus on consistency at the expense of fairness is for anyone to guess.
Fairness comes before consistency in my book.
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I already said that the preferable thing to do would be to finish the season.
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And if that can't happen then fairness should still take precedence over consistency IMO.
Your proposal is consistent but criminally unfair.
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That's just the way it goes. It's unfair that this virus happened.
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You can apply the same to the plans UEFA, the FA, the PFA, the government and the clubs, have in place to restart the season, if you think that isn't fair.
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Fair on who?
You advocating declaring LFC winners and everything else void. You cannot level that with then telling WBA and Leeds they are staying put.
You want the decision that's fairest to LFC.
Consistency across the EPL and the leagues is fairest to ALL. Within that some lose and some gain but ultimately it is all in balance. Sorry, the season is abandoned you cannot complete the remaining league and cup fixtures and this may harm some of you but its not favouring one team or another. All those with a chance to win something are affected equally.
You want - Sorry the season is abandoned, LFC are champions all the rest of you with a chance of success bad luck!
It follows that if it is unfair to relegate as fixtures have not been completed, then its not possible to promote as fixtures have not been completed and the same reason (failure to complete fixture) applies in both cases. If you declare LFC as champions and then don't relegate and then don't promote, then the reasoning has been applied unfairly.
Consistency of approach = the greatest level of fairness.
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