Personally I don't think European competition should even be considered until season 2021/22 at the earliest. The FA Cup should be voided for this season.
Not going to give my views on the league, as I know the general route this discussion will take.
All or none. It'll be none.
speaking of which when is the nothing or nothing documentary out?
Morning Sandy, you just might be right on this
However if it was cancelled we would be confirmed as champions imo
Don't ask me about relegation's and promotion's though, very complicated
I don't get the idea of cancelling this season to start a new one whenever that can happen. The knock on impacts of covid across football will take time to clear up.
The idea of not finishing his season to try start a new makes zero sense to me, finish this season whenever it can be finished safely. Then figure out how to start the next season, it doesn't have to be an August start to. Anew season.
Sorry, kneerash, can you explain that better, as you seem to be totally contradicting yourself there. But it might just be the way I'm reading it.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't get the idea of cancelling this season to start a new one whenever that can happen. The knock on impacts of covid across football will take time to clear up.
The idea of not finishing his season to try start a new makes zero sense to me, finish this season whenever it can be finished safely. Then figure out how to start the next season, it doesn't have to be an August start to. Anew season.
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Most people’s ideal scenario is the season finishing, it’s certainly the fairest way. But if other European leagues void their seasons to start a fresh in September (including European competition) then the Premier League will be under huge amounts of pressure to follow suit.
Yeah, that's the way I'm seeing it too. It's not so much whether leagues are cancelled or not this season, but the last thing UEFA wants is for different associations decide to start the next ones at different times.
Yeah mate sorry my brains still waking up!
I mean that whenever it's safe to restart football, assuming behind closed doors, then the goal should be to finish the domestic season and FA Cup. It doesn't matter when this happens but let's say its starts back up September 1st for example and takes two months to finish.
If it goes ell then the next season could start say in mid January. We won't immediately get back to what we consider normal start dates for a season for a couple of years but I don't see that as being a major issue.
I don't understand the point of finishing a tainted season in neutral venues with no crowds, what a load of horseshit.
As I said in an earlier comment Villa have 10 games left 6 of which are at home, why should they lose that advantage through no fault of their own?
comment by AND THATS THE TRUTH (U21210)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't get the idea of cancelling this season to start a new one whenever that can happen. The knock on impacts of covid across football will take time to clear up.
The idea of not finishing his season to try start a new makes zero sense to me, finish this season whenever it can be finished safely. Then figure out how to start the next season, it doesn't have to be an August start to. Anew season.
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Most people’s ideal scenario is the season finishing, it’s certainly the fairest way. But if other European leagues void their seasons to start a fresh in September (including European competition) then the Premier League will be under huge amounts of pressure to follow suit.
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That's a fair point. If European football starts up too then some leagues could be at different stages when teams enter Europe, but that already happens today with some countries having summer leagues.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah mate sorry my brains still waking up!
I mean that whenever it's safe to restart football, assuming behind closed doors, then the goal should be to finish the domestic season and FA Cup. It doesn't matter when this happens but let's say its starts back up September 1st for example and takes two months to finish.
If it goes ell then the next season could start say in mid January. We won't immediately get back to what we consider normal start dates for a season for a couple of years but I don't see that as being a major issue.
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In that case It would be better to just end this season and just start the new season at the almost normal time of beginning of September right?
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 30 seconds ago
I don't understand the point of finishing a tainted season in neutral venues with no crowds, what a load of horseshit.
As I said in an earlier comment Villa have 10 games left 6 of which are at home, why should they lose that advantage through no fault of their own?
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So would you suggest to cancel this season then start a new season as this one began with same teams in each league that we currently have?
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah mate sorry my brains still waking up!
I mean that whenever it's safe to restart football, assuming behind closed doors, then the goal should be to finish the domestic season and FA Cup. It doesn't matter when this happens but let's say its starts back up September 1st for example and takes two months to finish.
If it goes ell then the next season could start say in mid January. We won't immediately get back to what we consider normal start dates for a season for a couple of years but I don't see that as being a major issue.
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In that case It would be better to just end this season and just start the new season at the almost normal time of beginning of September right?
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Yeah I get that but I think there's so many things to consider when cancelling a season that it's far cleaner to finish this one first.
For example all pl clubs are still due a TV payment, if they don't get that then several clubs are rumoured to be in danger of going under, also prize money for league positon is gone. Clubs can't operate without this cash.
Its not easy this, can see valid points on both sides but I just think that the idea of cancelling the current season to start a new one makes little sense.
Ultimately we all just want to see football back, if the season is cancelled so be it, disappointing for fans of some clubs but you'd get over it quick if there was actual football to watch.
Clubs can't operate without this cash.
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Sounds like bullshiiit to me. I doubt any PL club can't take a short term hit.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 30 seconds ago
I don't understand the point of finishing a tainted season in neutral venues with no crowds, what a load of horseshit.
As I said in an earlier comment Villa have 10 games left 6 of which are at home, why should they lose that advantage through no fault of their own?
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So would you suggest to cancel this season then start a new season as this one began with same teams in each league that we currently have?
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Yes, I have said from day 1 of the lockdown the priority should be trying to have a full 20/21 domestic season rather than chasing around trying to finish this one in an unsatisfactory way.
No European club football next season would also be sensible as the Cl/Europa qualifiers should start in July.
I don't see how the CL can be completed, although it's plausible they can run it into the new season. It's perhaps still unlikely.
I don’t even think we can state a September start up is 100% viable just yet. So if it does run deep and into next year then it would make more sense to complete this season than have 2 unfinished seasons.
the whole lot should be forgotten about until this thing is defeated. Football is simply no important enough to risk lives for and that is what you will be doing no matter how you go about it until a vaccine is found.
This season should be voided completely.
how does voiding the seaosn to start a new one change that? smeg
Why even bother trying to finish a season that has now lost all integrity, it would be unethical and morally wrong in these circumstances to even consider risking any more lives for the sake of something that now has no meaning or distinction.
People who keep banging the finance drum are just desperately clinging onto that to try and justify their selfish beliefs. Clubs will be looked after financially and will cut their cloths accordingly.
Sorry Pool fans, this football season is almost certainly dead and has been for some time the sooner you all start getting used to the idea, the better.
Even if it somehow miraculously resumed, it could not now be considered 100% legitimate anyway, so why waste time, effort and more lives risking it.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 12 minutes ago
I don't see how the CL can be completed, although it's plausible they can run it into the new season. It's perhaps still unlikely.
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A problem with that is Atletico and Lyon aren't currently in CL places and City may well be banned next season.
They'll probably just have to suck it up, but it's pretty harsh for these teams not to have a chance of winning the CL despite not being knocked out.
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
how does voiding the seaosn to start a new one change that? smeg
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a new season can start in Sept or October.
Thats 3 - 4 months after a potential restart of this season. How safe in 4-5 months who knows but inevitably much much safer to do so than restart in 5 to 6 weeks.
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 7 minutes ago
how does voiding the seaosn to start a new one change that? smeg
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Simply because of player contracts that the season has been done by the end of June.
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posted on 30/4/20
Personally I don't think European competition should even be considered until season 2021/22 at the earliest. The FA Cup should be voided for this season.
Not going to give my views on the league, as I know the general route this discussion will take.
posted on 30/4/20
All or none. It'll be none.
posted on 30/4/20
speaking of which when is the nothing or nothing documentary out?
posted on 30/4/20
Morning Sandy, you just might be right on this
However if it was cancelled we would be confirmed as champions imo
Don't ask me about relegation's and promotion's though, very complicated
posted on 30/4/20
I don't get the idea of cancelling this season to start a new one whenever that can happen. The knock on impacts of covid across football will take time to clear up.
The idea of not finishing his season to try start a new makes zero sense to me, finish this season whenever it can be finished safely. Then figure out how to start the next season, it doesn't have to be an August start to. Anew season.
posted on 30/4/20
Sorry, kneerash, can you explain that better, as you seem to be totally contradicting yourself there. But it might just be the way I'm reading it.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't get the idea of cancelling this season to start a new one whenever that can happen. The knock on impacts of covid across football will take time to clear up.
The idea of not finishing his season to try start a new makes zero sense to me, finish this season whenever it can be finished safely. Then figure out how to start the next season, it doesn't have to be an August start to. Anew season.
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Most people’s ideal scenario is the season finishing, it’s certainly the fairest way. But if other European leagues void their seasons to start a fresh in September (including European competition) then the Premier League will be under huge amounts of pressure to follow suit.
posted on 30/4/20
Yeah, that's the way I'm seeing it too. It's not so much whether leagues are cancelled or not this season, but the last thing UEFA wants is for different associations decide to start the next ones at different times.
posted on 30/4/20
Yeah mate sorry my brains still waking up!
I mean that whenever it's safe to restart football, assuming behind closed doors, then the goal should be to finish the domestic season and FA Cup. It doesn't matter when this happens but let's say its starts back up September 1st for example and takes two months to finish.
If it goes ell then the next season could start say in mid January. We won't immediately get back to what we consider normal start dates for a season for a couple of years but I don't see that as being a major issue.
posted on 30/4/20
I don't understand the point of finishing a tainted season in neutral venues with no crowds, what a load of horseshit.
As I said in an earlier comment Villa have 10 games left 6 of which are at home, why should they lose that advantage through no fault of their own?
posted on 30/4/20
comment by AND THATS THE TRUTH (U21210)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't get the idea of cancelling this season to start a new one whenever that can happen. The knock on impacts of covid across football will take time to clear up.
The idea of not finishing his season to try start a new makes zero sense to me, finish this season whenever it can be finished safely. Then figure out how to start the next season, it doesn't have to be an August start to. Anew season.
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Most people’s ideal scenario is the season finishing, it’s certainly the fairest way. But if other European leagues void their seasons to start a fresh in September (including European competition) then the Premier League will be under huge amounts of pressure to follow suit.
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That's a fair point. If European football starts up too then some leagues could be at different stages when teams enter Europe, but that already happens today with some countries having summer leagues.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah mate sorry my brains still waking up!
I mean that whenever it's safe to restart football, assuming behind closed doors, then the goal should be to finish the domestic season and FA Cup. It doesn't matter when this happens but let's say its starts back up September 1st for example and takes two months to finish.
If it goes ell then the next season could start say in mid January. We won't immediately get back to what we consider normal start dates for a season for a couple of years but I don't see that as being a major issue.
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In that case It would be better to just end this season and just start the new season at the almost normal time of beginning of September right?
posted on 30/4/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 30 seconds ago
I don't understand the point of finishing a tainted season in neutral venues with no crowds, what a load of horseshit.
As I said in an earlier comment Villa have 10 games left 6 of which are at home, why should they lose that advantage through no fault of their own?
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So would you suggest to cancel this season then start a new season as this one began with same teams in each league that we currently have?
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah mate sorry my brains still waking up!
I mean that whenever it's safe to restart football, assuming behind closed doors, then the goal should be to finish the domestic season and FA Cup. It doesn't matter when this happens but let's say its starts back up September 1st for example and takes two months to finish.
If it goes ell then the next season could start say in mid January. We won't immediately get back to what we consider normal start dates for a season for a couple of years but I don't see that as being a major issue.
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In that case It would be better to just end this season and just start the new season at the almost normal time of beginning of September right?
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Yeah I get that but I think there's so many things to consider when cancelling a season that it's far cleaner to finish this one first.
For example all pl clubs are still due a TV payment, if they don't get that then several clubs are rumoured to be in danger of going under, also prize money for league positon is gone. Clubs can't operate without this cash.
Its not easy this, can see valid points on both sides but I just think that the idea of cancelling the current season to start a new one makes little sense.
posted on 30/4/20
Ultimately we all just want to see football back, if the season is cancelled so be it, disappointing for fans of some clubs but you'd get over it quick if there was actual football to watch.
posted on 30/4/20
Clubs can't operate without this cash.
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Sounds like bullshiiit to me. I doubt any PL club can't take a short term hit.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 30 seconds ago
I don't understand the point of finishing a tainted season in neutral venues with no crowds, what a load of horseshit.
As I said in an earlier comment Villa have 10 games left 6 of which are at home, why should they lose that advantage through no fault of their own?
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So would you suggest to cancel this season then start a new season as this one began with same teams in each league that we currently have?
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Yes, I have said from day 1 of the lockdown the priority should be trying to have a full 20/21 domestic season rather than chasing around trying to finish this one in an unsatisfactory way.
No European club football next season would also be sensible as the Cl/Europa qualifiers should start in July.
posted on 30/4/20
I don't see how the CL can be completed, although it's plausible they can run it into the new season. It's perhaps still unlikely.
posted on 30/4/20
I don’t even think we can state a September start up is 100% viable just yet. So if it does run deep and into next year then it would make more sense to complete this season than have 2 unfinished seasons.
posted on 30/4/20
the whole lot should be forgotten about until this thing is defeated. Football is simply no important enough to risk lives for and that is what you will be doing no matter how you go about it until a vaccine is found.
This season should be voided completely.
posted on 30/4/20
how does voiding the seaosn to start a new one change that? smeg
posted on 30/4/20
Why even bother trying to finish a season that has now lost all integrity, it would be unethical and morally wrong in these circumstances to even consider risking any more lives for the sake of something that now has no meaning or distinction.
People who keep banging the finance drum are just desperately clinging onto that to try and justify their selfish beliefs. Clubs will be looked after financially and will cut their cloths accordingly.
Sorry Pool fans, this football season is almost certainly dead and has been for some time the sooner you all start getting used to the idea, the better.
Even if it somehow miraculously resumed, it could not now be considered 100% legitimate anyway, so why waste time, effort and more lives risking it.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 12 minutes ago
I don't see how the CL can be completed, although it's plausible they can run it into the new season. It's perhaps still unlikely.
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A problem with that is Atletico and Lyon aren't currently in CL places and City may well be banned next season.
They'll probably just have to suck it up, but it's pretty harsh for these teams not to have a chance of winning the CL despite not being knocked out.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
how does voiding the seaosn to start a new one change that? smeg
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a new season can start in Sept or October.
Thats 3 - 4 months after a potential restart of this season. How safe in 4-5 months who knows but inevitably much much safer to do so than restart in 5 to 6 weeks.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 7 minutes ago
how does voiding the seaosn to start a new one change that? smeg
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Simply because of player contracts that the season has been done by the end of June.
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