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posted on 6/5/20

With half of the season being played behind closed doors possibly who will that favour and hurt?

City are already used to this so should walk the league.

posted on 6/5/20

I guess the question is, if they are banned from the CL will players move on?

They have a very strong squad but excluding fodder, few youth players seem to come through.

I think Chelsea young players, with pulisic fit, will kick on next year with a bit more experience under their belts.

I do really think Newcastle could spend a fortune and with some big names, really jump up the table.
Mega rich owners always want to make some marquee signings to flex a bit.

posted on 7/5/20

It will take a few seasons for Newcastle to move up. They might chop a few players and managers up along the way.

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 7/5/20

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City players won't move on IMO. Even if they have a right to leave because of the ban, a club must still come in fornyhem and offer at least the market value of the player to force City to let them leave. The player will also want more or at least equal wages and bonuses because players rarely take pay cuts.

In the current climate, absolutely no one will afford to buy any of City's stars. If Covid had not happened perhaps it could have happened, but now I don't see any chance of them losing any player they don't want to lose. Going in for KDB? They'll probably slap a 250m value on him as asking price.

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 7/5/20

City will walk the league next season if the ban is upheld. Probably sweep up everything in England again, unfortunately.

They'll be wounded by losing the title and hurt by no European football. Failing to achieve domestic success in the face of that would be seen as chronic failure.

posted on 7/5/20

Predict city to do well, CL ban or no ban.

Think there will be a lot of youth players being used at teams which is great.

Big spending will be put off I’d imagine by all bar city and Chelsea potentially.

If Newcastle are bought and are savvy, not just spending everywhere, I really believe they can assemble a top 6 squad in one window. The market is wide wide open for clever operators and clued in recruiters with teams all over the world desperate for cash like never before. Heard they have been trying for Soumaré since January, which would be a superb signing. Genuinely believe they can be a threat to the established order. If they get Poch too who knows..

posted on 7/5/20

Good article.

I'm not sure I'd want to see teams spending millions when other clubs are rally struggling financially.. there's something morally wrong in my head about that.

that said.. it would be exciting to watch as Sky report it

posted on 7/5/20

If Newcastle are bought and are savvy, not just spending everywhere, I really believe they can assemble a top 6 squad in one window. The market is wide wide open for clever operators and clued in recruiters with teams all over the world desperate for cash like never before. Heard they have been trying for Soumaré since January, which would be a superb signing. Genuinely believe they can be a threat to the established order. If they get Poch too who knows..

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Keano, as much as I'd like to agree, history has shown us that you can't play real life like Fifa manager mode - you could in theory get all the players in for a top 6 squad.. but as we all know, it will take a while for the manager to know what his best 11 is, for the players to gel, for the players to settle in etc etc

posted on 7/5/20

So the premise is we are in September and the season is about to start, I presume soem form of window fudge has been put in place to allow transfers.

Then I would apply the same logic as feburary after last window.

a) Liverpool - a complete (ish) squad but lacking that one or two spots like LB and the 4th attacker. We all forget minamino but the lad must be struggling in this covid time. If lovren stays and shaqiri stay and lallana goes I see few issues outside of injuries.

b) City: city have the same issues they had. not many either. They need a CB and to get shut of the rubbish ones they have. They need to resolve LB. They look a little short if sane leaves but we can't take that story as fact. Silva is gone as well so that does create a gap in my mind for them to fill.

C) Leicester: If they lose nobody they have done well. They have a set 11 but little depth so with potential CL placing (on sporting merit) they need to address this.

D) Chelsea: They've already bought a player to arrive so for me their issues are also at CB. if they sort that they've lots of players and few issues.

E) Man Utd: they are half way through thier rebuild. IF they had a fully fit squad and IF they get shut of pogba no matter what the cost (I can see a 30mil bid here lol) then really their issues are in midfield. Matic and Fred. IF they could get in at least one more top midfielder to go with even mctominay effort and fernandes then they could play the forwards they have and improve.

F) wolves: hard to know. Again will they lose players. Its a good balanced team but again theres just something missing to make that next leap. Keeping the manager and all the players would imo be enough for next year.

G) Spurs. Where do they start? Theres loads of issues. IF all are fit now they have son, kane, alli, moura, bergwijn. IMO they really miss eriksen linking it together but thats done now. I think they have issues at CM, they've issues across the backline to resolve and even at GK if lloris has hit the sauce again during covid. There's a lot of improvement there to get the team working like pochettino had them working (they worked nearly as hard as liverpool and covered nearly as much ground) the CBs are aging, the younger players are not as good. The centre of midfield if not great at all. Mourinho IMO needs a certain type to make it work and he didn't get it at utd.

f) arsenal. bankrupcy? seriously though they need aubameyang and have loads of forwards and midfield. the CBs are an absolute eye sore.

If arteta is the guy to get them working , really working hard and running all game then IMO the no 1 thing he needs is a good fast CB. Lots of goals in them IMO.

h) Sheff Utd: will utd give them a free keeper again? They made a really good singing in janaury imo. they were a surprise package this season so next season they will have to work even harder. not easy.


I) newcastle for pig iron. So they are an awful side, why? rubbish up top. and a lot of mediocre players who can defend and thats it.

Gk is good, but making lots of saves can make an average keeper look a star. They need full backs, the two longstaff boys might be in trouble as CMS come in. YOu can toss all the forwards in the bin and start again. None are particularly reliable are they. I'm talking top 4 level here not mid table. nothing else will satisfy an oil state in year 1. It took city 5 years to get there. The right decision is to get shut of bruce. City kept hughes on and wasted time. Poch? meh. he will get them running but his bubble burst a bit. at the top top level i found him not every tactically forward thinking. Itd be better than bruce though.

posted on 7/5/20

comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
City will walk the league next season if the ban is upheld. Probably sweep up everything in England again, unfortunately.

They'll be wounded by losing the title and hurt by no European football. Failing to achieve domestic success in the face of that would be seen as chronic failure.
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They should by rights.

If they spend 200mil and make a mockery of FFP and corona virus and their ban then they certinaly will.

I think though they need that CB to go with laporte and are maybe one player short if sane does go but after that they should if only focused on league win 36 out of 38 game or its a failure.

People need to wake up to how bad this is for the league in general.

I can recall a comic book back in my youth form pre prem where when it was being mooted and people didn't want a super league on top of our football league. There was a mega rich club playing 5-3-2 or something, full of foreign starts and winning everything and all the fans were plastic and hadn't a clue.

Some pundit insulted them and was challenged to do better and he got a bunch of no hopers form the non league and bottom leagues who were english together and played WM formation and slaughtered them.


First off It was actually relatively accurate about city. Plastic fans, foreign starts winning everything by spending.

Of course it was also little englander atttidue

posted on 7/5/20

The man U chief was quoted as saying mega deals this summer



Chequebook ed? Money will burning homes in his pocket, wait til he spends 250m on Sancho

posted on 7/5/20

comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 16 minutes ago
The man U chief was quoted as saying mega deals this summer



Chequebook ed? Money will burning homes in his pocket, wait til he spends 250m on Sancho
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all i need say to you is ED WOODWARD.



posted on 7/5/20

Lets look at each team:

Alisson
TAA Gomez VVD Robertson
Henderson Fabinho Wijnaldum
Salah Firmino Mane

subs: karius , Matip, oxlade, minamino, milner, keita, origi.

Jones, elliott etc.

Very little issues there. We would like a better forward and some LB cover but hey, it'd be nice not necessary.

Over to Ole to post his utd side or and spurs fan or even a non plastic city fan

posted on 7/5/20

comment by The Spanish Italians - its all going to end in tears (U21595)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
If Newcastle are bought and are savvy, not just spending everywhere, I really believe they can assemble a top 6 squad in one window. The market is wide wide open for clever operators and clued in recruiters with teams all over the world desperate for cash like never before. Heard they have been trying for Soumaré since January, which would be a superb signing. Genuinely believe they can be a threat to the established order. If they get Poch too who knows..

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Keano, as much as I'd like to agree, history has shown us that you can't play real life like Fifa manager mode- you could in theory get all the players in for a top 6 squad.. but as we all know, it will take a while for the manager to know what his best 11 is, for the players to gel, for the players to settle in etc etc
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Take your point.

However history has also shown that shrewd investment can bear fruit immediately. Leicester winning the league and now also being in a CL spot is a prime example.

Not saying it will definitely happen, but if there was a set of circumstances that a new sugar daddy owner would want to find himself in when he has just bought a club, it doesn’t get much more perfect than right now in terms of being a buyers market.

I also believe that 4-5 astute and quality signings can transform a team and this has been demonstrated numerous time throughout the history of football.

I really think people have not realised the impact the current situation will have on football. People keep talking about ‘getting back to normal’, but I promise you that’s all in the past now. Football, like all businesses (my own included), will be run completely differently going forwards, as there is now a completely new and unpredictable ‘normal’.

posted on 7/5/20

I personally feel if we keep all the playere we want to keep then we should be the team to beat. This team is at the perfect age right now, players in their prime mixed with some younger ones. One or 2 additions just to keep things fresh and we should he good to go again.

City will of course spend but they are losing silva, his talent on the field is clear for everyone to see but its what he brings off the field they will miss the most. Hes a leader, an influential part of that clubs huge success in recent times. Thats difficult to replace as we have seen with kompany. Add to that fernandinho and aguero are a year older well into their 30s. Id never write city off but I do feel they have a bit of work to do in the transfer market.

United would be next for me. They have the financial power to go out and sign 4 or 5 players that could instantly transform them. As much as a i dont think solskjaer is the long term answer if big money is spent as i expect it will be then i believe they will kick on.

Chelsea i think will improve of course but I still see them as being a year or 2 short before they are genuine title contenders. I may be wrong on that but its just my personal opinion. Defos a team that will be up there again before too long.

Spurs are a tricky one. Will they spend? If they are not in the champions league next season will they be able to attract the calibre of player required to break back in. They have a talented squad and despite his struggles in recent years mourinho is still a manager id back to get it right. Cant make my mind up on them. Cant see a title push if they dont make top 4 this season. They just wont bring in the players required to make the leap without champions league football.

Arsenal personally for me are a million miles away. Reminds me of us at the early part of this decade. Some shrewd work needing done in the transfer market but its going to take a few years there i feel.

posted on 7/5/20

I think City and Chelsea will operate in a bubble, and don't expect covid to effect them a great deal in terms of spending.

Why I think the timing could be massive for Newcastle is, bar the team's with billionaire owners, even teams like barca, real, Napoli etc will have players on huge sums that have contract issues or huge wages/fees they haven't justified. Bargains can be found.

In theory they could spend a 100-200 million and get 300 mill worth of players if they are shrewd and spend wisely. If the market returns back to how it was in a few years that would be some real value they'd get.

It didn't take city long after a few initial marquee signings to get people's and players attentions.
Could chop a year or two of their development as a team aiming for top 4, although I accept even that would be a huge ask. Def not impossible though.

posted on 7/5/20

comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOOOHHHHHH YAAAAAAA BEEEUUUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!! (U1859)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
I personally feel if we keep all the playere we want to keep then we should be the team to beat. This team is at the perfect age right now, players in their prime mixed with some younger ones. One or 2 additions just to keep things fresh and we should he good to go again.

City will of course spend but they are losing silva, his talent on the field is clear for everyone to see but its what he brings off the field they will miss the most. Hes a leader, an influential part of that clubs huge success in recent times. Thats difficult to replace as we have seen with kompany. Add to that fernandinho and aguero are a year older well into their 30s. Id never write city off but I do feel they have a bit of work to do in the transfer market.

United would be next for me. They have the financial power to go out and sign 4 or 5 players that could instantly transform them. As much as a i dont think solskjaer is the long term answer if big money is spent as i expect it will be then i believe they will kick on.

Chelsea i think will improve of course but I still see them as being a year or 2 short before they are genuine title contenders. I may be wrong on that but its just my personal opinion. Defos a team that will be up there again before too long.

Spurs are a tricky one. Will they spend? If they are not in the champions league next season will they be able to attract the calibre of player required to break back in. They have a talented squad and despite his struggles in recent years mourinho is still a manager id back to get it right. Cant make my mind up on them. Cant see a title push if they dont make top 4 this season. They just wont bring in the players required to make the leap without champions league football.

Arsenal personally for me are a million miles away. Reminds me of us at the early part of this decade. Some shrewd work needing done in the transfer market but its going to take a few years there i feel.
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Agree I think it's just a matter of time before Chelsea rise again. They have some really solid youth players that are very young and have immense talent.

Ironic a team funded with oil money that had few English players could be fielding lots of youth team players in the future! Few saw that coming.

posted on 7/5/20

I think we cannot ignore whats gone on with cheslea and transfer ban.

They have lost the time to keep up with the jones' and then went and bought anyway for them to either come in off loan or to come in after but now they are also in this crisis.

The issue with cheslea is their players have been in even more demand as youngish players than city's but they've never given them a chance. now they finally have.

posted on 7/5/20

comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 hour ago
I think we cannot ignore whats gone on with cheslea and transfer ban.

They have lost the time to keep up with the jones' and then went and bought anyway for them to either come in off loan or to come in after but now they are also in this crisis.

The issue with cheslea is their players have been in even more demand as youngish players than city's but they've never given them a chance. now they finally have.


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Yeah and they’ve been very good, Mount has looked decent, Abraham too and in gilmour they have someone who shown a very rare intelligence for someone so young, kid could be top class if he keeps going.

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