Your stats listed the time Keita has been injured this season and last, with the number of games he has missed.
I posted the stats for Hargreaves.
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Which was complete nonsense and irrelevant to what I actually said because you posted the wrong stats because they're convenient to your agenda of following me around the site trying to get one over me
Hope this helps.
comment by Thor (U22388)
posted 1 minute ago
Your stats listed the time Keita has been injured this season and last, with the number of games he has missed.
I posted the stats for Hargreaves.
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Which was complete nonsense and irrelevant to what I actually said because you posted the wrong stats because they're convenient to your agenda of following me around the site trying to get one over me
Hope this helps.
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What was nonsense about them? They're factual.
How are they irrelevant when they're the same stats as you're posting for Keita?
"following me around the site trying to get one over me"
You have a massive complex don't you?
Let's not forget that when you accused me of that earlier, it turned out I had commented on the thread before you had.
You obviously follow me and others around, so you assume other people do. Don't judge others by your own standards.
I think most fans (and managers) would pick a player that impacts a game over one with ability but poor output. What I would say is that it slightly depends on where the club is and what the competition is like.
If the club is currently performing well and, in the example of Fred v Keita, you have a decent midfield then you can probably afford to take your chances with the ability in the hope impact can develop.
I know Liverpool's midfield divides the crowd a little but I'm not sure Fred would make that much difference to us. We have dependable players in Henderson, Wij and Fabinho so for us taking a punt on high ability levels makes sense. For Utd right now, would they want the inconsistency of a Keita type player over the steady impact of a Fred? Probably not.
I do agree with TOOR though, this next season is make or break for him. If he's not regularly translating talent into performance after 3 years then I can see him leaving.
a little hargreves fact. did you know he was canadian? dual citizenship and of course never played for canada unfortunately.
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
a little hargreves fact. did you know he was canadian? dual citizenship and of course never played for canada unfortunately.
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Wasn’t his england link a lot more tenuous than his canada one? Shame his career was hit so hard with injuries..
Fred has been good to okay this year, his games prior were so poor that his improvement to just decent has been so vast that people are now overrating his impact. He’s still just an okay player. When pogba and mctom are back I fully expect Fred to be left out
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posted on 18/5/20
Your stats listed the time Keita has been injured this season and last, with the number of games he has missed.
I posted the stats for Hargreaves.
----
Which was complete nonsense and irrelevant to what I actually said because you posted the wrong stats because they're convenient to your agenda of following me around the site trying to get one over me
Hope this helps.
posted on 18/5/20
comment by Thor (U22388)
posted 1 minute ago
Your stats listed the time Keita has been injured this season and last, with the number of games he has missed.
I posted the stats for Hargreaves.
----
Which was complete nonsense and irrelevant to what I actually said because you posted the wrong stats because they're convenient to your agenda of following me around the site trying to get one over me
Hope this helps.
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What was nonsense about them? They're factual.
How are they irrelevant when they're the same stats as you're posting for Keita?
posted on 18/5/20
"following me around the site trying to get one over me"
You have a massive complex don't you?
Let's not forget that when you accused me of that earlier, it turned out I had commented on the thread before you had.
You obviously follow me and others around, so you assume other people do. Don't judge others by your own standards.
posted on 18/5/20
I think most fans (and managers) would pick a player that impacts a game over one with ability but poor output. What I would say is that it slightly depends on where the club is and what the competition is like.
If the club is currently performing well and, in the example of Fred v Keita, you have a decent midfield then you can probably afford to take your chances with the ability in the hope impact can develop.
I know Liverpool's midfield divides the crowd a little but I'm not sure Fred would make that much difference to us. We have dependable players in Henderson, Wij and Fabinho so for us taking a punt on high ability levels makes sense. For Utd right now, would they want the inconsistency of a Keita type player over the steady impact of a Fred? Probably not.
I do agree with TOOR though, this next season is make or break for him. If he's not regularly translating talent into performance after 3 years then I can see him leaving.
posted on 18/5/20
a little hargreves fact. did you know he was canadian? dual citizenship and of course never played for canada unfortunately.
posted on 18/5/20
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
a little hargreves fact. did you know he was canadian? dual citizenship and of course never played for canada unfortunately.
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Wasn’t his england link a lot more tenuous than his canada one? Shame his career was hit so hard with injuries..
posted on 18/5/20
Fred has been good to okay this year, his games prior were so poor that his improvement to just decent has been so vast that people are now overrating his impact. He’s still just an okay player. When pogba and mctom are back I fully expect Fred to be left out
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