Yeah I would have any starting but some great bench options there.

That's a bold claim from Matthew!

I think where Liverpool have excelled these last few seasons though has been in the fact they're more than the sum of their parts. That's not meant as anything other than a compliment by the way.

its all about balance.

utd individually have better midfielders than liverpool with the likes of pogba and fernandes, but the likes of henderson, fabinho and wijnaldum are far more suited to liverpools style of play.

i think klopp has it spot on at liverpool at the minute which is why they are the worlds best team

Martial and Rashford would be good options in the squad, Fernandes and Pogba could well break into the first team but who knows with Pogba. Maguire would replace Lovren just about. AWB and De Gea in the squad. I rate McTominay too tbf.

I wouldnt be 100% confident any of them improving our first 11 though. Pogba and Fernandes having the best chances of doing that.

I also do think re the sum of parts could be slightly overplayed. That theory will really come out of say we lose mane salah etc ad see them aye elsewhere and see if they perform.same level.

For example coutinho has been average at best away from Liverpool. Whereas virgil u can see totally transformed liverpool along with alisson

comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must... (U11713)
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its all about balance.

utd individually have better midfielders than liverpool with the likes of pogba and fernandes, but the likes of henderson, fabinho and wijnaldum are far more suited to liverpools style of play.

i think klopp has it spot on at liverpool at the minute which is why they are the worlds best team
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Right who has taken over Dunc's account? Haven't seen GB in a while....

comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 minutes ago
I also do think re the sum of parts could be slightly overplayed. That theory will really come out of say we lose mane salah etc ad see them aye elsewhere and see if they perform.same level.

For example coutinho has been average at best away from Liverpool. Whereas virgil u can see totally transformed liverpool along with alisson
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Didn't we thrash Barca without Salah and Firmino, with Robertson also going off injured?

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
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comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 minutes ago
I also do think re the sum of parts could be slightly overplayed. That theory will really come out of say we lose mane salah etc ad see them aye elsewhere and see if they perform.same level.

For example coutinho has been average at best away from Liverpool. Whereas virgil u can see totally transformed liverpool along with alisson
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Didn't we thrash Barca without Salah and Firmino, with Robertson also going off injured?
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Hhm true. So that could mean what diafol said that it is a system rather than world class players. I still do think though we have 5 World class players in allison virgil TAA salah and mane

comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
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comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 minutes ago
I also do think re the sum of parts could be slightly overplayed. That theory will really come out of say we lose mane salah etc ad see them aye elsewhere and see if they perform.same level.

For example coutinho has been average at best away from Liverpool. Whereas virgil u can see totally transformed liverpool along with alisson
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Didn't we thrash Barca without Salah and Firmino, with Robertson also going off injured?
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Hhm true. So that could mean what diafol said that it is a system rather than world class players. I still do think though we have 5 World class players in allison virgil TAA salah and mane
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The system is the biggest part of it, for sure, the players in the first eleven at least are perfectly suited to it. However we have good back up. Shaqiri and Origi came in, Origi scored two I believe and Shaqiri is good player. Milner went in for Robertson.

I honestly think we have seven. I'm not being biased either, honest.


Alisson
TAA
VVD
Robertson
Mane
Salah
Firmino

I think when people refer to 'better than the sum of its parts' what they really mean is the midfield. None of the midfield are exciting players, so people decide they're not very good. Yes, none are world class but they are do their jobs outstandingly well.

Fernandes is the only one off the top of my head that I’d start for Liverpool.

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
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Fernandes is the only one off the top of my head that I’d start for Liverpool.
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Not rashford?

Yeah Fernandes the only starter for me

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comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago

Fernandes is the only one off the top of my head that I’d start for Liverpool.
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Not rashford?
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Above who?

Agree with most comments that Bruno is the only one you'd consider to start. Whilst United do possess some good players, I couldn't envisage the names listed by Matt taking starting positions from out current 11. Some very bench options, but certainly not starters. 👍🏻

Alisson
Trent Maguire Van Dijk Robertson
Bruno Fernandes Fabinho Pogba
Salah Rashford Mane

it's definitely not just the system.

it's partly the so-called backup players usually still get plenty of playing time. and everyone's well-drilled in what they should be doing. even the young kids when they come in, as they under-23's, under-18's etc all train to play the same way.

but it's also about the amount of work/effort each player is prepared to put in.
yes, our system works, well. but let's face it, if we had Pogba as our central midfielder doing his usual wandering around slowly completely disinterested in the actual game then the whole system falls apart. we would have 4 - 5 players constantly breaking through the middle of our midfield, with little the wide players can do to stop them all. we'd get overrun and our front line would be out of the game because we'd hardly ever have the ball to get it to them.

it's the combination of good system, well drilled players willing to put a real shift in, and quality (almost) everywhere, (although, to be fair, if he keeps his concentration and composure, even lovren can be quality).

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson
Trent Maguire Van Dijk Robertson
Bruno Fernandes Fabinho Pogba
Salah Rashford Mane
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No WUMMING on my article please bro.

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comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
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Alisson
Trent Maguire Van Dijk Robertson
Bruno Fernandes Fabinho Pogba
Salah Rashford Mane
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No WUMMING on my article please bro.
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dont really see whats wumming about that tbh... not like he put in phil jones and matic

I think it's pretty fair. Since I know this is the one you take most issue with, Rashford has scored almost double the goals Firmino has this season with Firmino playing in a much better team.

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
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I think it's pretty fair. Since I know this is the one you take most issue with, Rashford has scored almost double the goals Firmino has this season with Firmino playing in a much better team.
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Not really relevant though. Unless, by introducing Rashford over Firmino, you are going to create that many extra chances. Liverpool's main goal threats are Mane and Salah, and Firmino helps to create goals for them. If you replace Firmino with another finisher like Rashford then you simply have another player competing to get on the end of the same chances. A team comprised of 10 20 goal a season strikers is not going to score 200 goals a season because they won't create the chances.

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comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
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I think it's pretty fair. Since I know this is the one you take most issue with, Rashford has scored almost double the goals Firmino has this season with Firmino playing in a much better team.
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Not really relevant though. Unless, by introducing Rashford over Firmino, you are going to create that many extra chances. Liverpool's main goal threats are Mane and Salah, and Firmino helps to create goals for them. If you replace Firmino with another finisher like Rashford then you simply have another player competing to get on the end of the same chances. A team comprised of 10 20 goal a season strikers is not going to score 200 goals a season because they won't create the chances.
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Hit send before finishing my post.

If you add Rashford (who is a good striker) it might mean he gets fewer goals because Salah and Mane are finishing chances. It might mean he gets a lot of goals at Salah and Manes expense but that the overall goals of the team drop.

Or Rashford could create for Mane and Salah and score more goals than Firmino.

I like Rashford an awful lot but Firmino is a far better player in a Klopp system. Almost a shame Rashford isn't playing under Klopp as I think he'd coach him to the next level.