comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 minute ago
I like Rashford an awful lot but Firmino is a far better player in a Klopp system. Almost a shame Rashford isn't playing under Klopp as I think he'd coach him to the next level.
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Yeah, I don't agree with United fans on here in regards to Rashford's position. For me he is a striker who has been coached on the wing too long. He needs to play centrally and get a good run at it. The goals will come naturally but I absolutely think he could improve his link up play and team work, if coached correctly and if getting a run of games in the position.
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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I don't think Maguire has the pace to deal with the one on one situations our centre backs come up against. We'd have to adjust our tactics for both changes.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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Maguire can't pass a ball more than 5 metre's
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 14 minutes ago
Or Rashford could create for Mane and Salah and score more goals than Firmino.
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Of course there is the possibility thay this could happen. Its hypothetical though. At United Rashford tends to be played as a main striker with Martial. They arent really competing with anyone else in the team to score those goals. Put him in the Liverpool team and he is competing with 2 other (arguably) better players for those opportunities. I guess I would just see the most likely occurrence is that Salah and Mane score slightly free goals and Rashford scores a few more than Firmino and the balance would have to be whether this ends up with more goals for Liverpool as a team.
I'm happy to just keep Firmino.
I think it's a weird call for most but I'll say Pigba.
Massively under performed at united, compared to his natural ability, but maybe Klopp could get him focused and playing at a high intensity.
I think he needs people on his case to get the best from him and tbh, at united he is probably seen as one of the most respected senior players. Pushing him daily I think he'd compliment Liverpool current players and system more than Bruno.
Pogbas annoying cos everyone knows he could be so good, and do it game in game out.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 minute ago
I think it's a weird call for most but I'll say Pigba.
Massively under performed at united, compared to his natural ability, but maybe Klopp could get him focused and playing at a high intensity.
I think he needs people on his case to get the best from him and tbh, at united he is probably seen as one of the most respected senior players. Pushing him daily I think he'd compliment Liverpool current players and system more than Bruno.
Pogbas annoying cos everyone knows he could be so good, and do it game in game out.
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I don't think even Klopp could get Pogba playing at high intensity. It's his mindset. He doesn't have it.
Bruno has looked pretty good so far but it still seems foolish to pick him just based on a few good games.
I honestly wouldnt have any in our 1st 11. Plenty could take a place on the bench but why are we changing out players from a team that are 25 points clear at the top of the table and have lost 2 league games in nearly 70?
Fernandes possibly with another 6 months under his belt and yeah i may have him. But im not swapping him out for say wijnaldum after a handful of premier league games. Thats just madness.
As someone else has said we have so many top class players. It take something very special and very consistent to swap one of them out.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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I don't think Maguire has the pace to deal with the one on one situations our centre backs come up against. We'd have to adjust our tactics for both changes.
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You're centre backs have had far more protection than ours in fairness.
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comment by Redvalk (U14242)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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Maguire can't pass a ball more than 5 metre's
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He'll just have to knock it 4 1/2 metres to VVD, for him to pump up field then
Pogba???? Are u fkn sure!!! NO WAY would he get anywhere near the team.....ability wise YES, but no footballer "just" has ability.....Pogba has neither the attitude, temperament or legs to play in klopps Midfield, and have ALL of our Mfs over Pogba everyday of the week.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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I don't think Maguire has the pace to deal with the one on one situations our centre backs come up against. We'd have to adjust our tactics for both changes.
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You're centre backs have had far more protection than ours in fairness.
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You think? They are often left alone as the full backs have bombed forward, on occasion they'll have Fabinho or Henderson dropping in. Your full backs aren't so adventurous and you play a more defensive system, often on the counter attack.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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I don't think Maguire has the pace to deal with the one on one situations our centre backs come up against. We'd have to adjust our tactics for both changes.
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You're centre backs have had far more protection than ours in fairness.
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You think? They are often left alone as the full backs have bombed forward, on occasion they'll have Fabinho or Henderson dropping in. Your full backs aren't so adventurous and you play a more defensive system, often on the counter attack.
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We've only really had a decent midfield set up since the turn of the year. Though I do accept you commit more men forward.
Allison
Robbo
VVD
Maguire
Trent
Pogba
Fabinho
Bruno
Mane
Rashford
Salah
The way I see is there isn’t many if any United players who would make Liverpool better but there’s a few you could swap in that wouldn’t make a whole of any difference to Liverpool.
Only a fully focused in form Pogba or maybe Bruno (too soon to tell) would improve Liverpool.
However you could replace one of their midfielders with Fred or McTominay and not see much difference imo.
Also Rashford of this season is at a similar level to Mane and could even be statistically better than Mane in that team.
Maguire could also slot in beside Van Dijk and I don’t think you would see a whole lot of difference.
An in form De Gea is also arguably better than Alisson. Alisson is very good but I see him as more solid than spectacular.
An in form De Gea is also arguably better than Alisson. Alisson is very good but I see him as more solid than spectacular.
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No way.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
The way I see is there isn’t many if any United players who would make Liverpool better but there’s a few you could swap in that wouldn’t make a whole of any difference to Liverpool.
Only a fully focused in form Pogba or maybe Bruno (too soon to tell) would improve Liverpool.
However you could replace one of their midfielders with Fred or McTominay and not see much difference imo.
Also Rashford of this season is at a similar level to Mane and could even be statistically better than Mane in that team.
Maguire could also slot in beside Van Dijk and I don’t think you would see a whole lot of difference.
An in form De Gea is also arguably better than Alisson. Alisson is very good but I see him as more solid than spectacular.
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Disagree with most of this.
Swapping in Fred would make us worse as he's not good enough for our midfield and worse than every one of our midfielders. McTominay could do a job in the Fabinho role but he's not as good as Fabinho.
Rashford is not similar to Mane this season. Mane is far and away better.
Slotting Maguire in would mean a tactical change as we can't play with a high line any more.
Alisson being solid but not spectacular is the worst of the lot. He's the best keeper in the world, excellent at everything, how can he not be spectacular?
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posted on 27/5/20
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 minute ago
I like Rashford an awful lot but Firmino is a far better player in a Klopp system. Almost a shame Rashford isn't playing under Klopp as I think he'd coach him to the next level.
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Yeah, I don't agree with United fans on here in regards to Rashford's position. For me he is a striker who has been coached on the wing too long. He needs to play centrally and get a good run at it. The goals will come naturally but I absolutely think he could improve his link up play and team work, if coached correctly and if getting a run of games in the position.
posted on 27/5/20
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
posted on 27/5/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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I don't think Maguire has the pace to deal with the one on one situations our centre backs come up against. We'd have to adjust our tactics for both changes.
posted on 27/5/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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Maguire can't pass a ball more than 5 metre's
posted on 27/5/20
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 14 minutes ago
Or Rashford could create for Mane and Salah and score more goals than Firmino.
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Of course there is the possibility thay this could happen. Its hypothetical though. At United Rashford tends to be played as a main striker with Martial. They arent really competing with anyone else in the team to score those goals. Put him in the Liverpool team and he is competing with 2 other (arguably) better players for those opportunities. I guess I would just see the most likely occurrence is that Salah and Mane score slightly free goals and Rashford scores a few more than Firmino and the balance would have to be whether this ends up with more goals for Liverpool as a team.
I'm happy to just keep Firmino.
posted on 27/5/20
I think it's a weird call for most but I'll say Pigba.
Massively under performed at united, compared to his natural ability, but maybe Klopp could get him focused and playing at a high intensity.
I think he needs people on his case to get the best from him and tbh, at united he is probably seen as one of the most respected senior players. Pushing him daily I think he'd compliment Liverpool current players and system more than Bruno.
Pogbas annoying cos everyone knows he could be so good, and do it game in game out.
posted on 27/5/20
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 minute ago
I think it's a weird call for most but I'll say Pigba.
Massively under performed at united, compared to his natural ability, but maybe Klopp could get him focused and playing at a high intensity.
I think he needs people on his case to get the best from him and tbh, at united he is probably seen as one of the most respected senior players. Pushing him daily I think he'd compliment Liverpool current players and system more than Bruno.
Pogbas annoying cos everyone knows he could be so good, and do it game in game out.
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I don't think even Klopp could get Pogba playing at high intensity. It's his mindset. He doesn't have it.
posted on 27/5/20
Bruno has looked pretty good so far but it still seems foolish to pick him just based on a few good games.
posted on 27/5/20
I honestly wouldnt have any in our 1st 11. Plenty could take a place on the bench but why are we changing out players from a team that are 25 points clear at the top of the table and have lost 2 league games in nearly 70?
Fernandes possibly with another 6 months under his belt and yeah i may have him. But im not swapping him out for say wijnaldum after a handful of premier league games. Thats just madness.
As someone else has said we have so many top class players. It take something very special and very consistent to swap one of them out.
posted on 27/5/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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I don't think Maguire has the pace to deal with the one on one situations our centre backs come up against. We'd have to adjust our tactics for both changes.
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You're centre backs have had far more protection than ours in fairness.
posted on 27/5/20
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posted on 27/5/20
comment by Redvalk (U14242)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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Maguire can't pass a ball more than 5 metre's
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He'll just have to knock it 4 1/2 metres to VVD, for him to pump up field then
posted on 27/5/20
Pogba???? Are u fkn sure!!! NO WAY would he get anywhere near the team.....ability wise YES, but no footballer "just" has ability.....Pogba has neither the attitude, temperament or legs to play in klopps Midfield, and have ALL of our Mfs over Pogba everyday of the week.
posted on 27/5/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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I don't think Maguire has the pace to deal with the one on one situations our centre backs come up against. We'd have to adjust our tactics for both changes.
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You're centre backs have had far more protection than ours in fairness.
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You think? They are often left alone as the full backs have bombed forward, on occasion they'll have Fabinho or Henderson dropping in. Your full backs aren't so adventurous and you play a more defensive system, often on the counter attack.
posted on 27/5/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah bruno the only player that gets in tbh, though Rashford could be a better option than Firmino in some situations and Maguire could play alongside VVD.
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I don't think Maguire has the pace to deal with the one on one situations our centre backs come up against. We'd have to adjust our tactics for both changes.
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You're centre backs have had far more protection than ours in fairness.
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You think? They are often left alone as the full backs have bombed forward, on occasion they'll have Fabinho or Henderson dropping in. Your full backs aren't so adventurous and you play a more defensive system, often on the counter attack.
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We've only really had a decent midfield set up since the turn of the year. Though I do accept you commit more men forward.
posted on 27/5/20
Allison
Robbo
VVD
Maguire
Trent
Pogba
Fabinho
Bruno
Mane
Rashford
Salah
posted on 27/5/20
Brun
posted on 27/5/20
and maybe Pogb
posted on 27/5/20
The way I see is there isn’t many if any United players who would make Liverpool better but there’s a few you could swap in that wouldn’t make a whole of any difference to Liverpool.
Only a fully focused in form Pogba or maybe Bruno (too soon to tell) would improve Liverpool.
However you could replace one of their midfielders with Fred or McTominay and not see much difference imo.
Also Rashford of this season is at a similar level to Mane and could even be statistically better than Mane in that team.
Maguire could also slot in beside Van Dijk and I don’t think you would see a whole lot of difference.
An in form De Gea is also arguably better than Alisson. Alisson is very good but I see him as more solid than spectacular.
posted on 27/5/20
An in form De Gea is also arguably better than Alisson. Alisson is very good but I see him as more solid than spectacular.
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No way.
posted on 27/5/20
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
The way I see is there isn’t many if any United players who would make Liverpool better but there’s a few you could swap in that wouldn’t make a whole of any difference to Liverpool.
Only a fully focused in form Pogba or maybe Bruno (too soon to tell) would improve Liverpool.
However you could replace one of their midfielders with Fred or McTominay and not see much difference imo.
Also Rashford of this season is at a similar level to Mane and could even be statistically better than Mane in that team.
Maguire could also slot in beside Van Dijk and I don’t think you would see a whole lot of difference.
An in form De Gea is also arguably better than Alisson. Alisson is very good but I see him as more solid than spectacular.
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Disagree with most of this.
Swapping in Fred would make us worse as he's not good enough for our midfield and worse than every one of our midfielders. McTominay could do a job in the Fabinho role but he's not as good as Fabinho.
Rashford is not similar to Mane this season. Mane is far and away better.
Slotting Maguire in would mean a tactical change as we can't play with a high line any more.
Alisson being solid but not spectacular is the worst of the lot. He's the best keeper in the world, excellent at everything, how can he not be spectacular?
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