I'm not sure whether I am alone on this but always though Griezmann was overrated.

Fine player but doesn't really have a position. I dont think he's great wide and I dont think he's great up top on his own. Can be devestating in a two and although that formation is making a come back I don't see it happening too much at the top clubs.

Juve would be my guess.

comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I'm not sure whether I am alone on this but always though Griezmann was overrated.

Fine player but doesn't really have a position. I dont think he's great wide and I dont think he's great up top on his own. Can be devestating in a two and although that formation is making a come back I don't see it happening too much at the top clubs.

Juve would be my guess.
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I totally agree. I was really unsure when Barca got him, for me he's a good player but far from being a top player or great. People talk about the fact he's won the World Cup, but that's a daft argument. The entire tournament he was quiet in most games and scored a few penalties whilst people creamed themselves. If you look at their team too: Pogba, Mbappe, Varane, Matuidi, Hernandez, Kante etc you can see why he looked good.

Bottled a penalty in the CL final and never won La Liga. He's moved to a real top club now at Barca and he's failed.

Most people thought it was weird as him and messi just couldn’t co exist. Both want to play between the lines. I wouldn’t have him at chelsea though.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Most people thought it was weird as him and messi just couldn’t co exist. Both want to play between the lines. I wouldn’t have him at chelsea though.
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Not behind Timo?

Na would cost a fortune and we have an abundance of attacking midfielders who can play there in mount, rlc, ziyech, Hudson odoi and maybe even Werner himself. And that’s without looking at the possibility of havertz

We really need to be looking at our defence, rather than yet another attacking mid.

Not for me!

As a Barça fan, I am saddened to see Griezmann's demise. I think he was just suited to Simeone and Atletico Madrid. In fact, few players who leave Simeone's team ever reach the heights they attain there as the manager plays to his players and side's strengths. If you do not play for Griezmann, he becomes marginal, similar to Ozil. A team can only really have one of this type of player without losing the effectivity of other star players. He was never going to compete with Messi who is the real focus of our attacks.

I see him as a possible signing for Chelsea but I don't see him as a good signing for you. You need stronger, more explosive players apt for the Premier League.

comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 45 seconds ago
As a Barça fan, I am saddened to see Griezmann's demise. I think he was just suited to Simeone and Atletico Madrid. In fact, few players who leave Simeone's team ever reach the heights they attain there as the manager plays to his players and side's strengths. If you do not play for Griezmann, he becomes marginal, similar to Ozil. A team can only really have one of this type of player without losing the effectivity of other star players. He was never going to compete with Messi who is the real focus of our attacks.

I see him as a possible signing for Chelsea but I don't see him as a good signing for you. You need stronger, more explosive players apt for the Premier League.
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The real issue with Griezmann is that he doesn't have that 'WOW' factor that Barca forwards usually have. He isn't skillful, he's got no pace, he never beats his man or does something you don't expect. Compare that to Messi, Suarez, Neymar, Henry, Eto'o, Villa, Ronaldinho and even Pedro. He's not good enough to play for Barca.

comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 45 seconds ago
As a Barça fan, I am saddened to see Griezmann's demise. I think he was just suited to Simeone and Atletico Madrid. In fact, few players who leave Simeone's team ever reach the heights they attain there as the manager plays to his players and side's strengths. If you do not play for Griezmann, he becomes marginal, similar to Ozil. A team can only really have one of this type of player without losing the effectivity of other star players. He was never going to compete with Messi who is the real focus of our attacks.

I see him as a possible signing for Chelsea but I don't see him as a good signing for you. You need stronger, more explosive players apt for the Premier League.
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The real issue with Griezmann is that he doesn't have that 'WOW' factor that Barca forwards usually have. He isn't skillful, he's got no pace, he never beats his man or does something you don't expect. Compare that to Messi, Suarez, Neymar, Henry, Eto'o, Villa, Ronaldinho and even Pedro. He's not good enough to play for Barca.
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Maybe. But Barça are signing "big name" players for lots of money but we don't seem to have a plan. In Spain, we can win just through the quality of our front players but we are buying players who are not team players.

Iniesta was a really important player for us. He was a very good player, not quite as good as many would say, but his real strength was that he worked for the team. He knew his place in the team. He was playing a supporting role to Messi (and Xavi when he was playing). He ran double to make the team look good.

Coutinho is a good player, Dembele probably better - but they are players who need to be the focus. They want to prove they are as good as Messi. Griezmann plays in the hole behind the forward, but won't run to give shape to the team.

Chelsea need flair going forward and they need shape in defence. Griezmann will offer neither.

comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 46 minutes ago
I'm not sure whether I am alone on this but always though Griezmann was overrated.

Fine player but doesn't really have a position. I dont think he's great wide and I dont think he's great up top on his own. Can be devestating in a two and although that formation is making a come back I don't see it happening too much at the top clubs.

Juve would be my guess.
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Yeah pretty much. Simeone building his team around him worked, but he doesn’t look anything special anywhere other than in that position.

Barca have made a cooock up with this one as I think he’ll be really difficult to shift, more so than Coutinho and Dembele.

I don’t even think Juve will touch him when they have similar problems with Dybala.

Inter would be the best fit as Conte plays two up front. And Barca want their second best striker for £100m.

comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 45 seconds ago
As a Barça fan, I am saddened to see Griezmann's demise. I think he was just suited to Simeone and Atletico Madrid. In fact, few players who leave Simeone's team ever reach the heights they attain there as the manager plays to his players and side's strengths. If you do not play for Griezmann, he becomes marginal, similar to Ozil. A team can only really have one of this type of player without losing the effectivity of other star players. He was never going to compete with Messi who is the real focus of our attacks.

I see him as a possible signing for Chelsea but I don't see him as a good signing for you. You need stronger, more explosive players apt for the Premier League.
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The real issue with Griezmann is that he doesn't have that 'WOW' factor that Barca forwards usually have. He isn't skillful, he's got no pace, he never beats his man or does something you don't expect. Compare that to Messi, Suarez, Neymar, Henry, Eto'o, Villa, Ronaldinho and even Pedro. He's not good enough to play for Barca.
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Maybe. But Barça are signing "big name" players for lots of money but we don't seem to have a plan. In Spain, we can win just through the quality of our front players but we are buying players who are not team players.

Iniesta was a really important player for us. He was a very good player, not quite as good as many would say, but his real strength was that he worked for the team. He knew his place in the team. He was playing a supporting role to Messi (and Xavi when he was playing). He ran double to make the team look good.

Coutinho is a good player, Dembele probably better - but they are players who need to be the focus. They want to prove they are as good as Messi. Griezmann plays in the hole behind the forward, but won't run to give shape to the team.

Chelsea need flair going forward and they need shape in defence. Griezmann will offer neither.
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I would actually say Coutinho was better for Barca than Griezmann. Look at him in games against United and Madrid, he at least made an impact. Which big game has Griezmann done well in? I went to the Clasico in December when it was 0-0 and I couldn't believe how minimal Griezmann's impact was. Also, Dembele is a truly awful footballer who has no place at Barca. He has no technique or passing ability, which to me is required at a club like FCB. I am shocked they signed him for so much too, he has a poor attitude and is made from glass.

Barcelona have been buying dud after dud for a while, they would be well out of the picture if Messi got injured for a season.

Griezmann was dynamite from 2013-18.

Especially around 15-16 when he was quick, good with the ball and lethal in front of goal.

I think after winning the World Cup and signing a big contract at Barca, he’s lost motivation and fitness. He looks unathletic nowadays.

I think people are being overly harsh on Griezmann.

It's fair enough to say he hasn't fit in, and perhaps that he doesn't fit their style. On the flip side, it's been a terribly timed move and just what style exactly he has supposedly failed to fit into is anyone's guess. Having a teenage sensation from the academy staking a claim in the team has complicated matters further, as the fans and local media are always extra-eager for such players to establish themselves.

Griezmann was always heavily over-sold as a superstar-type footballer, but he's also heavily underrated in terms of his on-pitch intelligence.

As for where he might be headed next if Barça did decide to cut their losses, PSG maybe? He's been linked several times down the years, is a French sweetheart, and if it's confirmed PSG are releasing both Cavani and Choupo-Moting, they'll be left looking pretty light in that department.

Griezmann was always heavily over-sold as a superstar-type footballer, but he's also heavily underrated in terms of his on-pitch intelligence.
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I think for a while he showed superstar quality.

The goals he scored that sunk Bayern & Barca on route to the UCL Final, then the 6 goals at the Euros where France lost in the Final. The Fortnite ‘taking an L’ dance celebrations at the World Cup.

He’s lost some sizzle since 2016 but he was still decisive at the World Cup and had a legitimate Ballon D’Or claim in 2018 imo.

I’m surprised you like him. He’s not a bonafide blue chip player, and has a history of choking in clutch moments.

Yeah he choked in 2016, particularly when France lost the Euro Final.

But he made up for it when he won the World Cup two years later with France’s ‘Redeem Team’ if you will.

I think he’s very blue-chip.

Nope, doesn't fit the profile of this Chelsea team at all.

Approaching his 30's, wages are double our highest earner (Kante on 400k/w), comes with a star name & reputation this team doesn't need, doesn't press from the front, drifts into an attacking space where we're overloaded, etc... nothing works about it.

Tbh with Ziyech & Werner coming in we're pretty much done in the attacking portion of the team, even Sancho would be a step too far. The focus now needs to be on an upgrade at LB, and if we fancy having a go for the title as soon as next season a world class CB.

We don't even need him, need to strengthen defence now.

comment by Blues Forever (U12031)
posted 11 hours, 8 minutes ago
We don't even need him, need to strengthen defence now.
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highlighted last night in awful hideous detail