This is exactly what I have been saying. Yes england are a force in tests atm, but odis they have a lot to prove. You know its clear that anderson wont feature in the odis against pakistan and srilanka later this year, or if he does he will be low on confidence and will have less experiance. It was very crucial for him to play these odis. But oh well they might find a better talented bowler that can bowl when the pitches dont help

So if the tracks offer nothing for the bowlers? India bowlers will what do something they havent shown capable? bowling England out or keeping them down to a decent score?..

True, know-it-all, but, everyone knows about the Indian bowling attack...Plus, they're world champions it's different. Whereas, England have the biggest point to prove, especially with what has happened in recent times.

In recent times England came closest to beating India in the WC, which no one else managed.

hopefor everyone knows that india upped their game from the quarter final stage, and teams that were looking so balanced ie. Srilanka who beat england by 10 wickets to go into semifinals were a formidable side. Also pakistan were unbeatean till semis so you cant say england were the 2nd best team, as thats what you imply.

I'm not implying anything viru, just pointing out that in recent times in India they beat everyone except England.
It's an answer to this statement:

Whereas, England have the biggest point to prove, especially with what has happened in recent times.

hftb...Batting, I have no problem. They've got batsman who can chase and score 300+...it's the bowling where they have to prove their points.

Amir, who are you talking about. One minute it's India next it's England. Who's batting, who's bowling?

England and their bowling.

in the sub-continent...

So you believe they bat well and bowl badly?
Considering England are taking a so different bowling attack, it seems a bit early to judge them.

I was hoping Jimmy'd get picked for the India tour, just to see how he'd perform.. Meaker will find it tough, Jade will be put to the test with his variety of bowling etc... Like I said England have the best Test bowling attack in the world, they proved that in Australia...in ODI's with all the hype surrounding them I'm not too sure.

what hype ?

in ODIs there is no hype , i think most people are aware we are an average ODI team trying to build towards the next world cup

Almost every bowler who's played a significant number of ODI games has got to get used to the fact that there will be times when he gets whacked. The game is seriously skewed in the batsman's favour. Opening bowlers in the power play are often expensive. Anderson in the WC had just come through a tough 3 month tour of Oz, so his performance needs to be seen in that light.

Well the likes of Ian Botham and Nasser have been going over the top in recent times...talking about the 2015 WC like it's England's already.

As for Anderson I've always felt, no swing- Rubbish bowler. You're right this is a batsman's game etc... Conditions in the sub-continent are not easy, but you can't always expect figures of 10-0-68-1...can you now?

England have done extremely well this summer in terms of, conditions have suited bowlers, but they've destroyed everything in front of them, no matter how good.

Perform well as bowlers in India, UAE etc... then talk!- In Australia I felt the English bowlers proved how good they are, do it in the sub-continent now.

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Amir you're doing all the talking. No England fan is claiming our bowlers have great records on the sub continent. We're not even sure how our batsmen will perform.
I for one intend to wait and see, why not do the same.

No, I was just responding to Botham and Co, not the fans. I for one hope they perform well, I hope Swanny proves a threat, I think Bresnan will the suprise stand-out bowler... the batting I think is the best I've seen for a while. They've batted in tough conditions and done well, in easier conditions you'd hope we get more of the same.

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I wouldn't have taken Anderson because we don't have to stretch our players too far, and Indian ODIs are probably not his speciality.

But in his defence, on very flat wickets in Australia, bowling a hell of a lot of overs, he wrung the most out of the conditions, like a survivalist finding sustenance in the desert.

Don't take Jimmy to India, because we don't need to. And because it serves him and his team that way. But it's wrong to describe him as one dimensional. I anticipate some strong performances in UAE and Sri Lanka in the five day games. They won't be any flatter than Adelaide or Sydney.

Maybe contrast with the way India try to wheel out Zaheer (a great bowler) for all the key matches, even when unfit. Maybe England can manage their resources more adroitly? That would be a strength.

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And how interesting would that be?

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