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It's lose lose, always has been for us since the restart
Lose the games, get slated and have our deficiencies exposed
Win either/both and it's largely meaningless (unless we win the cup or finish in a European place... Both unlikely)
I agree that there is a real possibility that we will get pumped in both games but surely every sensible Arsenal supporter thinks that Arteta has to be given next season as a minimum - I would like to believe that’s a given.
comment by *GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
I'll be interested to see what happens tomorrow. We haven't been at it properly for a while, but I look at the way Arsenal play and they're so open that we should really be able to hurt them.
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Wouldn’t say we’ve been that open, recent games we’ve had a more solid structure we’ve just let teams back into the game with silly individual errors. Spurs were well contained and we were dominating possession until Kolasinac messed up and our game plan went to pieces. That was the same against City away and and Leicester.
I've got a feeling you'll get something against us. Our record at the Emirates isn't great.
Think we may have a slight chance tommorow. Liverpool haven't been as good as they were pre lockdown. Liverpool will still be favourites but I still feel we have a chance of winning. Liverpool always smash us at Anfield but games at Emirates have been closer. 3 of the last 4 games at the Emirates between us have been draws with Liverpool winning in August 2016.
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 11 minutes ago
I've got a feeling you'll get something against us. Our record at the Emirates isn't great.
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The teams you have faced recently have been a lot stronger than the current mob
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Also, with no fans, playing at the emirates will have no bearing on this game. To be fair to our fans they usually get up for big games.
However, with no crowd, Liverpool will definitely play with the handbrakes off and freedom as we are the type of team that will allow them to play
I prefer first to play and then talk. We have nothing to lose and Pool nothing to gain. If we have no brainfarts at our back again we always have a chance of a point(s).
Arteta is paid to manage to produce results. He has some leeway because those players are not his players. And Wenger failed with that core as did Emery. So I don't think anyone genuinely believes that the next few games will break him. A cup in the first season would go a long way to help build his reputation though.
People keep banging on about the last time we beat city in the semi.
We had a certain Sanchez at the time who was a big game player.
This team has no game changers for me, especially against the big boys
Arteta is a progressive coach though and I just hope he gets backing this summer even without European football
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 35 minutes ago
People keep banging on about the last time we beat city in the semi.
We had a certain Sanchez at the time who was a big game player.
This team has no game changers for me, especially against the big boys
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As long as we dont fall behind so quickly because of individual errors we of course are able to score on any occasion. I concede that we hardly are clinical enough in this season when it matters.
To beat Liverpool or City of course things must come together in our favour. It's not mission impossible.
Pool is maybe a more realistical chance but factor in that they have only 3 games in the last 2 seasons.
That's crazy
As for the big games, only trust Laca to turn up out of this sorry bunch. Yes he isn't as prolific as Auba but he does always get on the scoring sheet against the tradition top 6
Arsenal have always been good value to pull out an unexpected domestic Cup result out of the hat. Sometimes even stringing a series of Cup results together all the way to a final, despite poor corresponding results in the league.
90 minutes is all that stands between us and the final. Win the semi, and all bets are off.
Come on Arteta. Prove them all wrong! .
Arteta's p'd me right off but I'm not one for sacking a manager in under 2-3 years. And for this squad, that's more 3. Both matches are "Happy as long as we don't get a cricket score," for me.
Actually looking forward to the pool game though. for certain player matchups. Assuming both are picked then Saka has to get by Alexander Arnold and on the right I wanna see if Pepe can give VVD as much trouble as he did at Anfield.
Arteta doesn't need to worry about these games in job terms, he's safe until Christmas. Fans will say "Oh I'll give him next season cos he didn't even get a whole one, Emery stuffed this one up," or similar. However if we don't look nailed on for CL by Christmas, they'll start yelling for his job.
I've been questioning Arteta for a while. I dont like the slow build up game and the longer he has been in charge the worse it gets. we retain possession at all costs including no counter attacks to keep possession, play it wide and hope to score from there while keeping most players behind the ball.
And when we defend we press high up the pitch. the teams that look to get the ball forward fast against us will get something from the game, most notably Brighton and totteringham.
The question in my mind is would I prefer a massive loss while trying to play better football or carry on like this and try to keep the score down.
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posted on 14/7/20
It's lose lose, always has been for us since the restart
Lose the games, get slated and have our deficiencies exposed
Win either/both and it's largely meaningless (unless we win the cup or finish in a European place... Both unlikely)
posted on 14/7/20
I agree that there is a real possibility that we will get pumped in both games but surely every sensible Arsenal supporter thinks that Arteta has to be given next season as a minimum - I would like to believe that’s a given.
posted on 14/7/20
comment by *GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
I'll be interested to see what happens tomorrow. We haven't been at it properly for a while, but I look at the way Arsenal play and they're so open that we should really be able to hurt them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wouldn’t say we’ve been that open, recent games we’ve had a more solid structure we’ve just let teams back into the game with silly individual errors. Spurs were well contained and we were dominating possession until Kolasinac messed up and our game plan went to pieces. That was the same against City away and and Leicester.
posted on 14/7/20
I've got a feeling you'll get something against us. Our record at the Emirates isn't great.
posted on 14/7/20
Think we may have a slight chance tommorow. Liverpool haven't been as good as they were pre lockdown. Liverpool will still be favourites but I still feel we have a chance of winning. Liverpool always smash us at Anfield but games at Emirates have been closer. 3 of the last 4 games at the Emirates between us have been draws with Liverpool winning in August 2016.
posted on 14/7/20
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 11 minutes ago
I've got a feeling you'll get something against us. Our record at the Emirates isn't great.
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The teams you have faced recently have been a lot stronger than the current mob
posted on 14/7/20
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posted on 14/7/20
Also, with no fans, playing at the emirates will have no bearing on this game. To be fair to our fans they usually get up for big games.
However, with no crowd, Liverpool will definitely play with the handbrakes off and freedom as we are the type of team that will allow them to play
posted on 14/7/20
I prefer first to play and then talk. We have nothing to lose and Pool nothing to gain. If we have no brainfarts at our back again we always have a chance of a point(s).
posted on 14/7/20
Arteta is paid to manage to produce results. He has some leeway because those players are not his players. And Wenger failed with that core as did Emery. So I don't think anyone genuinely believes that the next few games will break him. A cup in the first season would go a long way to help build his reputation though.
posted on 14/7/20
People keep banging on about the last time we beat city in the semi.
We had a certain Sanchez at the time who was a big game player.
This team has no game changers for me, especially against the big boys
posted on 14/7/20
Arteta is a progressive coach though and I just hope he gets backing this summer even without European football
posted on 14/7/20
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 35 minutes ago
People keep banging on about the last time we beat city in the semi.
We had a certain Sanchez at the time who was a big game player.
This team has no game changers for me, especially against the big boys
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As long as we dont fall behind so quickly because of individual errors we of course are able to score on any occasion. I concede that we hardly are clinical enough in this season when it matters.
To beat Liverpool or City of course things must come together in our favour. It's not mission impossible.
posted on 14/7/20
Pool is maybe a more realistical chance but factor in that they have only 3 games in the last 2 seasons.
That's crazy
posted on 14/7/20
As for the big games, only trust Laca to turn up out of this sorry bunch. Yes he isn't as prolific as Auba but he does always get on the scoring sheet against the tradition top 6
posted on 14/7/20
Arsenal have always been good value to pull out an unexpected domestic Cup result out of the hat. Sometimes even stringing a series of Cup results together all the way to a final, despite poor corresponding results in the league.
90 minutes is all that stands between us and the final. Win the semi, and all bets are off.
Come on Arteta. Prove them all wrong! .
posted on 14/7/20
Arteta's p'd me right off but I'm not one for sacking a manager in under 2-3 years. And for this squad, that's more 3. Both matches are "Happy as long as we don't get a cricket score," for me.
Actually looking forward to the pool game though. for certain player matchups. Assuming both are picked then Saka has to get by Alexander Arnold and on the right I wanna see if Pepe can give VVD as much trouble as he did at Anfield.
Arteta doesn't need to worry about these games in job terms, he's safe until Christmas. Fans will say "Oh I'll give him next season cos he didn't even get a whole one, Emery stuffed this one up," or similar. However if we don't look nailed on for CL by Christmas, they'll start yelling for his job.
posted on 14/7/20
I've been questioning Arteta for a while. I dont like the slow build up game and the longer he has been in charge the worse it gets. we retain possession at all costs including no counter attacks to keep possession, play it wide and hope to score from there while keeping most players behind the ball.
And when we defend we press high up the pitch. the teams that look to get the ball forward fast against us will get something from the game, most notably Brighton and totteringham.
The question in my mind is would I prefer a massive loss while trying to play better football or carry on like this and try to keep the score down.
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