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posted on 30/7/20

There is more than one path in life. There is much to admire about Emi's patience and determination. Imagine if he hits the top level and stays there until forty.

posted on 30/7/20

The fact we gave up on Szczesny, Ospina and Martinez when all were a good age for 'keepers in favour of signing an at least 3 years past it Petr Cech saddens me.

posted on 30/7/20

He never should've got dropped for the Europa, I'm still annoyed about that. For me he is more assured than Leno, he seems to have more confidence. I'll be gutted if Martinez were to leave, some Chelsea rumours popping up.

posted on 30/7/20

Depends what you like in a keeper. Emi is poor on close range shots and tends to spread himself more than recting to the shot. He is however very good, even world class, at reading the game and coming early. I've seen several times he has come out early to pick the ball up and most fans just thought it was an easy take, giving him no credit for reading the game, judging it perfectly and coming out to pick the ball up when I have no doubt Leno would have been on the line waiting for the shot. Emi is also good at long range shots as he has shown a couple of times recently.

Leno on the other hand is a good shot stopper, particularly on the close in reaction saves when compared to Emi. He is not as good at reading the game and coming early, or on crosses. I didnt say bad, just not as good.

Then you need to take in the changes to the defence to suit Emi. We only went to 343 just after he came in, a a change I think was at least partly to work to his strengths.

Emi has made 34 saves in 9 league appearances (1 sub). Leno 113 in 30 appearances so not massively different. I havent got stats on distance, but my perception is more of the shots Emi faced were from further out than Leno.

So in my opinion it comes down to whether you prefer Emi's deal with it early or Leno's wait for the closer shot and make the save. For me, I'd keep Emi in goal and tell Leno he has to earn his place back.

posted on 30/7/20

Should try and flog him to Everton for £40mil,miles better than iwobi

If we get a big offer for with him or Leno we should probably take it and improve elsewhere on the pitch

posted on 30/7/20

At his age, given the position he plays in, Leno shouldn't expect to be getting that place back automatically. Aside from the fact he's the younger of the pair. Emi's performances have massively highlighted the flaws in Leno's game. If he's smart, he will be more concerned with watching Emi and learning fixing them, than immediately getting back into the starting lineup. Emi has stepped up and taken his moment and I don't want him out of the No1. spot until he gives us cause to make that change. Leno simply being fit again, is just not a good enough reason to drop the form keeper.

However I think this is a moot point since I can't see us keeping both keepers now tbh. ke will almost certainly cash in on the strength in depth at GK. He'll flog off Emi, take his cut and tell Arteta he can have the change toward transfers. Enjoy watching him in the cup final because Martinez will be in another team's shirt next season.

posted on 30/7/20

ke will almost certainly cash in on the strength in depth at GK. He'll flog off Emi, take his cut and tell Arteta he can have the change toward transfers.
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You do realise we have a very high net spend. Kroenke never takes a cut and all money recieved in reinvested and then some.

Strange that people need an agenda that is so flawed to attack someone so easy to blame. It is almost as if they don't know why they hate Kroenke, the stupid caaaants.

posted on 30/7/20

What cut will he take? He makes more off the rams

posted on 30/7/20

So happy for Emi. Loyal Gunner who took his chance when it arrived.

posted on 30/7/20

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
ke will almost certainly cash in on the strength in depth at GK. He'll flog off Emi, take his cut and tell Arteta he can have the change toward transfers.
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You do realise we have a very high net spend. Kroenke never takes a cut and all money recieved in reinvested and then some.

Strange that people need an agenda that is so flawed to attack someone so easy to blame. It is almost as if they don't know why they hate Kroenke, the stupid caaaants.
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Yes DJ I do realise, I'm being sarcastic and overly cynical. As has been pointed out several times, we've spent alot, badly. But that money has been spent badly due to him. He won't sign off on the big money fee and wages, for the very best. Instead he wants 3 unproven youngsters for 50 mil or an ageing star who will just have high wages with a low fee.

Year after year we have missed out on players because HE won't even own this club like someone who cares if it wins football matches, let alone a fan. We ALWAYS take the P with fee offers. Beggar about lo-balling and some other club just PAYS THE FEE! That's what's going on with Partey (among other things). 45 mil clause, player we desperately need and we're p'ing about. 23-30 to own Ceballos outright, yet it's not done already. W...T...F?! He's clearly key in Arteta's plans so why delay? It's a steal but I bet we're trying to not pay for him too.

Short of a manager pulling off a miracle and creating about 6-10 superstars himself from cheap dross, problem players and veterans. This club is never going to challenge for the title again as long as it stays with this owner. He just wants to keep using the same old Wenger model, transfer wise. Our financial limitations went ages ago and Wenger's gone now too. Still got the same BS, can't compete, way of dealing in the transfer market though. Until THAT changes, this team will always fall short of truly competing again. I don't ever see ke changing it. So I want him gone because I'd like to see another Gunner's PL title and maybe even a CL one too before I die.

posted on 30/7/20

He won't sign off on the big money fee and wages, 
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Erm, Ozil...
We signed Laca for big money and wages, then signed Auba on bigger nmoney and wages 5 months later.
£72m for a Ligue 1 winger 👀

posted on 30/7/20

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 18 minutes ago
He won't sign off on the big money fee and wages, 
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Erm, Ozil...
We signed Laca for big money and wages, then signed Auba on bigger nmoney and wages 5 months later.
£72m for a Ligue 1 winger 👀


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But before that we had the 2nd lowest spend one summer and when the bumper tv money came in we barely spent when everyone else did, that really put us behind other teams. So yes we have spent, but not that much compared to others if you go back a few years and the tam shows the lack of investment. Spending over the last few years has been trying to keep us competitive but not enough to do so. And dont forget, the record £72m for Pepe was only £20m up front with the remainder coming out of this and more transfer windows.

posted on 30/7/20

And dont forget, the record £72m for Pepe was only £20m up front with the remainder coming out of this and more transfer windows.
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That is the same way Real and Barca and most clubs operate.

posted on 30/7/20

But before that we had the 2nd lowest spend one summer
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Are you talking about when we only signed Cech because Wenger thought we had a title winning squad and didn't want to spend? Hard to blame Kroenke for that.

posted on 30/7/20

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 51 minutes ago
But before that we had the 2nd lowest spend one summer
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Are you talking about when we only signed Cech because Wenger thought we had a title winning squad and didn't want to spend? Hard to blame Kroenke for that.
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Im not blaming Kronke for that but we didnt get any obvious extra funds in future transfer windows as a result of not spending.

And what do you make of Kronke buying out our loans. Reports said it wont change our repayments, which means we will still be paying the same interest rate as previously but it will relax some constraints placed on us to have cash in the bank, giving us an extra £36m capital this year. As we are rumoured to only have a £30m transfer fund that means we dont even get ll of this so called windfall for transfers.

posted on 31/7/20

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
He won't sign off on the big money fee and wages, 
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Erm, Ozil...
We signed Laca for big money and wages, then signed Auba on bigger nmoney and wages 5 months later.
£72m for a Ligue 1 winger 👀


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Ozil was on the cheap because Jose wanted shot of him, now we know why. And both Laca and Auba were bought 5 years after we really needed to get them. Because at the time we needed tp get them, they'd have cost the very top whack price. 70 mil for Pepe but with a 5 year payment plan ffs. Sure that must be unusually long since so much has been made of it. And we bought him when we needed defenders and MFs btw.

Fact is DJ, the TOP players in football these days are closer to 100 mil to secure. We're ALWAYS bidding short. So we'll never be able to buy that top star who is almost always the difference maker when a team steps up a level. Like VVD for Pool. When we got Ozil for instance. It was 60-80 mil for the very best in his position or the striker we desperately needed at the time. Our transfer team SETTLED for Ozil, in a desperate attempt to get some sort of big name. No doubt after being told by ke that he wasn't going to spend a penny more than 50 mil on anyone.

Sorry mate but approximately 70 mil to secure both Ceballos and Partey is a piece of business, that of the top clubs, ONLY WE would spend any time feckin around over it. The fact we haven't wrapped that up quickly is proof that as usual, the team is hamstrung buy the owner with his BS "We've got no money so you have to stick to bargains." We NEED those players badly and they're already bloody cheap. The owner DOES NOT have the mentality nor desire to be the owner of a title winning club. As the pitiful sum of 70 million pounds is now yet again proving. Absolutely no idea why you have suddenly decided to become an advocate for and defender of an owner that you know is/has been killing the club slowly anyway.

posted on 31/7/20

Ozil was the third highest fee a British club had paid - getting him 9n the cheap

Liverpool got VvD because they sold Coutinho for €165m, not because the owners chucked €75m at the club.

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And we bought him when we needed defenders and MFs btw.
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You think Kroenke is in charge of where we strengthen the team?


Dortmund paid €13m for Auba 5 years before we signed him. Top whack? Laca was as expensive as he ever would have been. Again, Kroenke is not in charge of who we go for and the money was there to buy both 5 years previous if we wanted to go for them. Instead we went for Mustafi and Xhaka.

posted on 31/7/20

DJ it was at Dortmund that Auba's class showed and that's when his price sky rocketed. You're talking like we coulda got him for 13mil euros after he shone at Dortmund and was labelled one of the best. Those years we spent dying for a striker after RVP were the years in which we should have been getting Auba or Laca. Both were names touted by fans on this board but both would have cost big as they had contracts with time.

We don't buy established top quality because we won't cough up the amount of money need for it at the time. and OF COURSE it's ke dictating that the transfer team has to buy the crap we do. Not actually selecting players to buy. But by always refusing to sign off on the hottest transfers. Yeah they might get 100 mil to spend. But for that money ke wants 3 OR 4 players. If you really think the transfer teams have spent all these years buying a selection of dross by choice then you really have lost the plot. We paid 35 mil for Xhaka because as usual ke wanted to skimp on the fee. We SHOULD have been coughing up around 60 mil for a top DM. No matter who is supposedly in charge, it's blindingly obvious that they are ALWAYS forced to seek the cheaper alternative to the top star we have to outbid a top team for. Don't blame the negotiators and scouts who are forced to spread the money around, thus prohibited from pursuing the biggest abd best targets. Because that is the OWNER'S doing!

posted on 31/7/20

Kroenke has never refused to sign off on a transfer, I doubt he even knows who we are attempting to sign. That is not how it works at all .

posted on 31/7/20

Ps, it was at St Etienne where Auba showed his class and it was 5 years prior to us signing him as you stated

posted on 31/7/20

DJ you really have lost it now mate. You are arguing that we could have spent/can spend, toe to toe with the transfer big boys. Because the owner is letting managers buy anyone they want. Places no restrictions on transfer funds.

Then WTF was all that with Arteta in his post match interview then? If what you say is true and ke is ssooo generous and free spending...

Then why exactly is Arteta unsure whether he can have the money to get the players he wants this summer? Our manager is damn near begging on national TV and you're sat chatting sh !t about how the owner doesn't curtail spending. Get a grip...

OF COURSE IT'S THE OWNER IN THE WAY

posted on 31/7/20

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 hours, 22 minutes ago
Kroenke has never refused to sign off on a transfer, I doubt he even knows who we are attempting to sign. That is not how it works at all .
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No he just signs off on how much the overall transfer kitty will be DJ.

posted on 31/7/20

comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 hours, 22 minutes ago
Kroenke has never refused to sign off on a transfer, I doubt he even knows who we are attempting to sign. That is not how it works at all .
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No he just signs off on how much the overall transfer kitty will be DJ.
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Exactly, and we spend more than most and have one of the highest wage bills. So it clearly isn't his fault but the people who have mismanaged the transfers.

posted on 31/7/20

DJ you really have lost it now mate. You are arguing that we could have spent/can spend, toe to toe with the transfer big boys. Because the owner is letting managers buy anyone they want. Places no restrictions on transfer funds.
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No I am not. I am saying we have continuously had a budget to keep us competitive. Our net spend over the last 5 years dwarfs Liverpools, yet they have gone from 8th to runaway Champions while we have gone from 2nd to 8th.

No one has said Kroenke is "generous and free spending". We have our way of working that is different to City and United.

The claim you made to start with is Kroenke sells players and takes a chunk and gives the manager the rest to spend, which very clearly is false.

posted on 31/7/20

I already said that was a sarcastic overly cynical slight. I don't literally think he transfers some cash to his personal accounts. It's his general effect on the club.

Easier way to put it. If we need 3 top players and each will cost 50 mil. Transfer budget allocated by ke is 100-120 mil. Despite the fact we have 200 mil sitting in the bank that we can spend if we want. Hence we're always forced to sign the "Cheaper alternative."


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