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posted on 11/8/20

I don't think you are being cynical.
Immigrants have always been a good way to distract from troubles politicians face and the media love bashing them.

posted on 11/8/20

Not a bit cynical Sandy it's exactly what's going on, the BBC and Sky News has boats out in the channel filming live.

You can debate the whole migrant thing but the fact is these are humans in a tiny boat who are at risk of drowning and filming them is crass, they may as well be aminals in a zoo.

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 11/8/20

Very true.

Won't stop the great unwashed from lapping it up and allowing it to work. It's actually obvious yet the same formula works over and over and over!

posted on 11/8/20

If you check the Good LawProject they are suing the Government over four PPE contracts one of which was awarded to Liz Truss' advisor who set up a £100 company when the lockdown started and got a £150m contract. The PPE they supplied was found to not meet safety standards.

Literally within 48 hours there is a migrant crisis that adds 0.18% to the population each year from countries that we sell guns to making £13,000,000,000 a year.

So no Sandy, it's not cynical at all. They're scvm.

posted on 11/8/20

https://twitter.com/justinsight/status/1232196230211440640?s=19

This image is perfect

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 11/8/20

comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
If you check the Good LawProject they are suing the Government over four PPE contracts one of which was awarded to Liz Truss' advisor who set up a £100 company when the lockdown started and got a £150m contract. The PPE they supplied was found to not meet safety standards.

Literally within 48 hours there is a migrant crisis that adds 0.18% to the population each year from countries that we sell guns to making £13,000,000,000 a year.

So no Sandy, it's not cynical at all. They're scvm.
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Can you provide a link to this please?

posted on 11/8/20

Just proves how racist and rancid this country has become. Funking tory kents. Every single tory voter needs to go to hell.

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 11/8/20

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
https://twitter.com/justinsight/status/1232196230211440640?s=19

This image is perfect
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I don't like this narrative either. I think it's a bit delusional.

posted on 11/8/20

comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
If you check the Good LawProject they are suing the Government over four PPE contracts one of which was awarded to Liz Truss' advisor who set up a £100 company when the lockdown started and got a £150m contract. The PPE they supplied was found to not meet safety standards.

Literally within 48 hours there is a migrant crisis that adds 0.18% to the population each year from countries that we sell guns to making £13,000,000,000 a year.

So no Sandy, it's not cynical at all. They're scvm.
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Can you provide a link to this please?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JolyonMaugham?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

This guy is a hero. It's quite a read.

posted on 11/8/20

comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
If you check the Good LawProject they are suing the Government over four PPE contracts one of which was awarded to Liz Truss' advisor who set up a £100 company when the lockdown started and got a £150m contract. The PPE they supplied was found to not meet safety standards.

Literally within 48 hours there is a migrant crisis that adds 0.18% to the population each year from countries that we sell guns to making £13,000,000,000 a year.

So no Sandy, it's not cynical at all. They're scvm.
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Can you provide a link to this please?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JolyonMaugham?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

This guy is a hero. It's quite a read.
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Direct link to this particular contract

https://goodlawproject.org/news/ppe-masks-not-fit-for-purpose/

posted on 11/8/20

Not cynical at all. I think that's exactly what's going on.

posted on 11/8/20

It's absolutely what they do.

They all do it in some way or another. Try to bury bad news and try to detract from one story with another.

They also brief ministers to use the same terminology in order to score highly with search algorithms.

posted on 11/8/20

I'm getting very bored with the BBC calling them illegal. It's not illegal at all.

posted on 11/8/20

That's a good point Winston on the search algorithms.

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 11/8/20

comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
If you check the Good LawProject they are suing the Government over four PPE contracts one of which was awarded to Liz Truss' advisor who set up a £100 company when the lockdown started and got a £150m contract. The PPE they supplied was found to not meet safety standards.

Literally within 48 hours there is a migrant crisis that adds 0.18% to the population each year from countries that we sell guns to making £13,000,000,000 a year.

So no Sandy, it's not cynical at all. They're scvm.
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Can you provide a link to this please?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JolyonMaugham?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

This guy is a hero. It's quite a read.
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Direct link to this particular contract

https://goodlawproject.org/news/ppe-masks-not-fit-for-purpose/
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Nice, thanks.

It's awful! No due diligence before selecting the supplier.. if someone's head doesn't roll for that then it's a travesty.

posted on 11/8/20

comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
https://twitter.com/justinsight/status/1232196230211440640?s=19

This image is perfect
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I don't like this narrative either. I think it's a bit delusional.


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I think its a powerful image and says allot about the influence of red tops.

posted on 11/8/20

comment by LukaBrasi Average Team Fan (U22178)
posted 5 minutes ago
Just proves how racist and rancid this country has become. Funking tory kents. Every single tory voter needs to go to hell.
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you're becoming more like the states everyday. pity.

posted on 11/8/20

Didn't that Pretel wench say the UK needs France to help with the migrants, but Brexit was specifically to take back control of UK borders without influence from the EU...

posted on 11/8/20

comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
If you check the Good LawProject they are suing the Government over four PPE contracts one of which was awarded to Liz Truss' advisor who set up a £100 company when the lockdown started and got a £150m contract. The PPE they supplied was found to not meet safety standards.

Literally within 48 hours there is a migrant crisis that adds 0.18% to the population each year from countries that we sell guns to making £13,000,000,000 a year.

So no Sandy, it's not cynical at all. They're scvm.
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Can you provide a link to this please?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JolyonMaugham?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

This guy is a hero. It's quite a read.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Direct link to this particular contract

https://goodlawproject.org/news/ppe-masks-not-fit-for-purpose/
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Nice, thanks.

It's awful! No due diligence before selecting the supplier.. if someone's head doesn't roll for that then it's a travesty.
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Chris Grayling wasted £2billion and kept his job so I wouldn't get your hopes up.

"A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices"

- George Orwell

posted on 11/8/20

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 50 seconds ago
Didn't that Pretel wench say the UK needs France to help with the migrants, but Brexit was specifically to take back control of UK borders without influence from the EU...
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Must admit that Brexit likely leading to more asylum seekers due to not being protected by EU law is actually quite amusing to me.

posted on 11/8/20

The thing is it works on a large amount of the British public. It's pretty awful how ignorant and outright xenophobic large swathes of our country are.

You have to hope the next generation will be better educated but it's a problem that doesn't seem to be going away any time soon.

comment by Ruiney (U1005)

posted on 11/8/20

Yup, and people lap it up.

posted on 11/8/20

I think very few people have seen this as anything other than a Government ploy

posted on 11/8/20

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 28 seconds ago
I think very few people have seen this as anything other than a Government ploy
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If that were true the Tories wouldn't be in power and there would be no brexit.

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 11/8/20

comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 5 minutes ago
The thing is it works on a large amount of the British public. It's pretty awful how ignorant and outright xenophobic large swathes of our country are.

You have to hope the next generation will be better educated but it's a problem that doesn't seem to be going away any time soon.
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That Xenophobic argument is played out. I don't think we should boil it down to terms like that and racism...

That debate is a long and complex one. T

his discussion is about how easily the media have been able to sway attention away.

Reality is though, is there any way to combat it?

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