Jesus this is desperate stuff. For the record I've seen both blade runner films, and it didn't look to me like maguire was a skinjob.
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
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Ah dont go
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posted 48 seconds ago
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
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Ah dont go
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Yeah, when we're just minutes away from a frame by frame run through of the suarez/evra handshake.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 48 seconds ago
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
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Ah dont go
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Yeah, when we're just minutes away from a frame by frame run through of the suarez/evra handshake.
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Maybe he will come back after that clean up on aisle 7
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*Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
Out of interest, do you do that sort of thing for a living?
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have a degree in psychology and studied body language as part or it. Did a couple of papers on it too.
By no means an expert, just my opinion.
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My missus has a degree in psychology and she said she thought he was telling the truth. I have to say that I thought he came across as being genuine. He just looked very nervous to me.
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I just watched it again and his eye contact is terrible. Quite a few times his eyes look right up as well, as if to say who is going to believe this shiiiiiiit.
He barley looks at the camera and when he does he looks away quite quickly.
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My understanding of eye contact is that when someone is lying they tend to look you right in the eye and not blink in a deliberate attempt, or to look away and not make eye contact. Also looking around all over can be a sign of lying. When they flit between looking down and looking you in the eye, which Maguire does, that is a sign they are telling the truth.
Looking up from what I recall depends on which way they look. I think the left indicates they are lying and the right they are telling the truth. Either way, I think Maguire is looking at the journo rather than looking up.
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Your understanding is a mess.
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Well lets hear it then.
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My understanding of eye contact is that when someone is lying they tend to look you right in the eye and not blink in a deliberate attempt, or to look away and not make eye contact. Also looking around all over can be a sign of lying. When they flit between looking down and looking you in the eye, which Maguire does, that is a sign they are telling the truth.
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ok where to startpeople avoiding eye contact is considered a sign of dishonesty but that doesn't mean the person is lying. there could be other stress factors causing the reaction.
Now what is known as darting eyes is where your eyes move from side to side or up and down, this is recognised a bigger sign of lying than avoiding contact. The theory is I believe the eyes are darting around looking for an escape route.
Yes accomplished liars can lie easily and keep eye contact ect however I think it's fair to say Macquire doesn't fall into that category
but then again I'm no expert, we're see what happens.
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I have heard of the eye darting thing, which I did address in my original post. But I don't really think that is what Maguire does. He isn't looking around or side to side. He looks down, or directly at the interviewer. You said that he looks right up quite a bit, but I don't see that. I think you are just getting confused by the fact the camera is quite low down below his eye level, so it looks like he is looking up, when in fact he is looking the interviewer in the eye.
And I don't know why you would expect him to look at the camera either. It is positioned to the side of the interviewer, so he was never likely to look at it rather than the interviewer. That would have been really weird.
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he blatantly does it, his eyes are all over the place at times in the interview. Also his head goes up and downwhat's that aboutbut so you know you know it could be considered a sign of shame/embarrassment but it could also be caused by other stress factors.
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
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I could be wrong, but I just thought he came across as really embarrassed and uncomfortable. I don't think that he is usually someone that likes attention, so that would be understandable. I have read a report on a study a few years back that claims to debunk the whole eye movement/contact theory anyway, so who knows?
As you say, it will come out in the wash. I expect that there will be a lot more evidence come to light when the appeal goes ahead.
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 9 seconds ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Apart from utter lying caant that is....
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 9 seconds ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Apart from utter lying caant that is....
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I don't even think that you need to examine his body language to form an opinion. He was so evasive with his language that if you heard it on the radio you'd be suspicious.
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 14 minutes ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Lying through his teeth.
Although he is of part Greek ancestry, so this is normal behaviour.
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 14 minutes ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Lying through his teeth.
Although he is of part Greek ancestry, so this is normal behaviour.
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I dont think you need a degree in psychology to see he was lying through his teeth
Absolute car crash of an interview that was
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 6 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 8 minutes ago
His body language suggests he’s embarrassed, head down minimal eye contact.
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He does look embarrassed. But embarrassed isn't the same as guilty.
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true but his body language suggests he has something to hide or isn't being being completely honest.
Anyways I guess it will come out in the wash.
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like he got bummed by them ?
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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I don't think Maguire is paedophile but you never know.
Maybe the Greek cops unearthed something and that's why he attacked and attempted to bribe them
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 14 minutes ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Lying through his teeth.
Although he is of part Greek ancestry, so this is normal behaviour.
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I dont think you need a degree in psychology to see he was lying through his teeth
Absolute car crash of an interview that was
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Yeah Maitlis was pathetic
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 6 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 8 minutes ago
His body language suggests he’s embarrassed, head down minimal eye contact.
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He does look embarrassed. But embarrassed isn't the same as guilty.
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true but his body language suggests he has something to hide or isn't being being completely honest.
Anyways I guess it will come out in the wash.
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like he got bummed by them ?
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He couldn’t have, he had 20 euros up there in case of an emergency...
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posted 5 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 3 hours, 10 minutes ago
Thing I don't really understand is what happened with his sister. He says she was approached and they believe she was drugged which caused her to faint and slip in and out of consciousness, but then he said she was fine about 15 minutes later.
Pretty sure there's no drug in the world that would do that.
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It's lies.
She probably felt ill watching her convicted hooligan brother chinning rozzers left, right and centre
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Genuinely laughing here and I’m a Un..... you know the rest by now.
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 48 seconds ago
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
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Ah dont go
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Yeah, when we're just minutes away from a frame by frame run through of the suarez/evra handshake.
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Maybe he will come back after that clean up on aisle 7
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Took me a little longer than anticipated, they had me mop aisle 8 too
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
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posted 46 minutes ago
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
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posted 7 seconds ago
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posted 46 minutes ago
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
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posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
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You're not first and you won't be the last. The amount of nets Barry casts, he still catches a whopper now and then.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
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You're not first and you won't be the last. The amount of nets Barry casts, he still catches a whopper now and then.
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Sounds like a wahl
Maguire story seems more believable. The other story seems like police trying to show they are not corrupt by making what seems to be lies up to cover criminal activity by the supposed police.
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posted on 28/8/20
Jesus this is desperate stuff. For the record I've seen both blade runner films, and it didn't look to me like maguire was a skinjob.
posted on 28/8/20
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
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Ah dont go
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 48 seconds ago
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
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Ah dont go
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Yeah, when we're just minutes away from a frame by frame run through of the suarez/evra handshake.
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 48 seconds ago
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
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Ah dont go
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Yeah, when we're just minutes away from a frame by frame run through of the suarez/evra handshake.
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Maybe he will come back after that clean up on aisle 7
posted on 28/8/20
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 4 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 34 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
*Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
Out of interest, do you do that sort of thing for a living?
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have a degree in psychology and studied body language as part or it. Did a couple of papers on it too.
By no means an expert, just my opinion.
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My missus has a degree in psychology and she said she thought he was telling the truth. I have to say that I thought he came across as being genuine. He just looked very nervous to me.
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I just watched it again and his eye contact is terrible. Quite a few times his eyes look right up as well, as if to say who is going to believe this shiiiiiiit.
He barley looks at the camera and when he does he looks away quite quickly.
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My understanding of eye contact is that when someone is lying they tend to look you right in the eye and not blink in a deliberate attempt, or to look away and not make eye contact. Also looking around all over can be a sign of lying. When they flit between looking down and looking you in the eye, which Maguire does, that is a sign they are telling the truth.
Looking up from what I recall depends on which way they look. I think the left indicates they are lying and the right they are telling the truth. Either way, I think Maguire is looking at the journo rather than looking up.
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Your understanding is a mess.
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Well lets hear it then.
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My understanding of eye contact is that when someone is lying they tend to look you right in the eye and not blink in a deliberate attempt, or to look away and not make eye contact. Also looking around all over can be a sign of lying. When they flit between looking down and looking you in the eye, which Maguire does, that is a sign they are telling the truth.
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ok where to startpeople avoiding eye contact is considered a sign of dishonesty but that doesn't mean the person is lying. there could be other stress factors causing the reaction.
Now what is known as darting eyes is where your eyes move from side to side or up and down, this is recognised a bigger sign of lying than avoiding contact. The theory is I believe the eyes are darting around looking for an escape route.
Yes accomplished liars can lie easily and keep eye contact ect however I think it's fair to say Macquire doesn't fall into that category
but then again I'm no expert, we're see what happens.
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I have heard of the eye darting thing, which I did address in my original post. But I don't really think that is what Maguire does. He isn't looking around or side to side. He looks down, or directly at the interviewer. You said that he looks right up quite a bit, but I don't see that. I think you are just getting confused by the fact the camera is quite low down below his eye level, so it looks like he is looking up, when in fact he is looking the interviewer in the eye.
And I don't know why you would expect him to look at the camera either. It is positioned to the side of the interviewer, so he was never likely to look at it rather than the interviewer. That would have been really weird.
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he blatantly does it, his eyes are all over the place at times in the interview. Also his head goes up and downwhat's that aboutbut so you know you know it could be considered a sign of shame/embarrassment but it could also be caused by other stress factors.
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
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I could be wrong, but I just thought he came across as really embarrassed and uncomfortable. I don't think that he is usually someone that likes attention, so that would be understandable. I have read a report on a study a few years back that claims to debunk the whole eye movement/contact theory anyway, so who knows?
As you say, it will come out in the wash. I expect that there will be a lot more evidence come to light when the appeal goes ahead.
posted on 28/8/20
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 9 seconds ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Apart from utter lying caant that is....
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 9 seconds ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Apart from utter lying caant that is....
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I don't even think that you need to examine his body language to form an opinion. He was so evasive with his language that if you heard it on the radio you'd be suspicious.
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 14 minutes ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Lying through his teeth.
Although he is of part Greek ancestry, so this is normal behaviour.
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 14 minutes ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Lying through his teeth.
Although he is of part Greek ancestry, so this is normal behaviour.
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I dont think you need a degree in psychology to see he was lying through his teeth
Absolute car crash of an interview that was
posted on 28/8/20
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 6 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 8 minutes ago
His body language suggests he’s embarrassed, head down minimal eye contact.
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He does look embarrassed. But embarrassed isn't the same as guilty.
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true but his body language suggests he has something to hide or isn't being being completely honest.
Anyways I guess it will come out in the wash.
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like he got bummed by them ?
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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I don't think Maguire is paedophile but you never know.
Maybe the Greek cops unearthed something and that's why he attacked and attempted to bribe them
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 14 minutes ago
What did we make of Prince Andrew on this basis then...?
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Lying through his teeth.
Although he is of part Greek ancestry, so this is normal behaviour.
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I dont think you need a degree in psychology to see he was lying through his teeth
Absolute car crash of an interview that was
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Yeah Maitlis was pathetic
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 6 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 everything you want from a poster and a little bit more. (U22336)
posted 8 minutes ago
His body language suggests he’s embarrassed, head down minimal eye contact.
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He does look embarrassed. But embarrassed isn't the same as guilty.
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true but his body language suggests he has something to hide or isn't being being completely honest.
Anyways I guess it will come out in the wash.
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like he got bummed by them ?
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He couldn’t have, he had 20 euros up there in case of an emergency...
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 5 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 3 hours, 10 minutes ago
Thing I don't really understand is what happened with his sister. He says she was approached and they believe she was drugged which caused her to faint and slip in and out of consciousness, but then he said she was fine about 15 minutes later.
Pretty sure there's no drug in the world that would do that.
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It's lies.
She probably felt ill watching her convicted hooligan brother chinning rozzers left, right and centre
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Genuinely laughing here and I’m a Un..... you know the rest by now.
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 48 seconds ago
Anyways I need to finish my work, I'll leave you to it.
-------
Ah dont go
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Yeah, when we're just minutes away from a frame by frame run through of the suarez/evra handshake.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe he will come back after that clean up on aisle 7
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Took me a little longer than anticipated, they had me mop aisle 8 too
posted on 28/8/20
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
posted on 28/8/20
comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 46 minutes ago
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
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posted on 28/8/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 46 minutes ago
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
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😂
posted on 28/8/20
comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
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You're not first and you won't be the last. The amount of nets Barry casts, he still catches a whopper now and then.
posted on 28/8/20
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I proper nibbled didnt i😂
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You're not first and you won't be the last. The amount of nets Barry casts, he still catches a whopper now and then.
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Sounds like a wahl
posted on 29/8/20
Maguire story seems more believable. The other story seems like police trying to show they are not corrupt by making what seems to be lies up to cover criminal activity by the supposed police.
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