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posted on 26/9/20

With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Reason-Not-the-Need (U4135)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by A Catalyst For Change (U7080)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by A Catalyst For Change (U7080)
posted 1 minute ago
Ole is a really average manager at best. I think any prem manager wouldn’t do any worse with your squad, if ole was at someone like Southampton he’d get them relegated. Crazy Man U are still sticking with him, surely could easily get a much better manager than him
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You are probably wrong. Third and the semis were better than an average manager would have got last year
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With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement
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Exactly! Especially if the 3rd place is achieved with 66 points.
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It was still third

posted on 26/9/20

comment by A Catalyst For Change (U7080)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ole is a really average manager at best. I think any prem manager wouldn’t do any worse with your squad, if ole was at someone like Southampton he’d get them relegated. Crazy Man U are still sticking with him, surely could easily get a much better manager than him
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funny, because he's picked up more points than mikel "just look at the difference he's made to us" arteta since the latter took over.

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 3 minutes ago
Maguire is abysmal. Utterly baffling that he's in the position he's in. Captain as well😵🥴. Shocking player.
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not as good as grealish, agreed. disgrace that captain jack isn't picked by england, big club bias, corruption, FA, FIFA, UEFA, blatter.

comment by MMaaxx (U9506)

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.
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Ole is the issue.

comment by Kobra (U19849)

posted on 26/9/20

The problem is we have an abundance of talent up front but they are bypassed.

Rashford goal was excellent but those goals are not bread and butter. We need strikers who score the one Maguire did week in week out.

I don't understand why we can't keep hold of the ball for long periods of time. Likes of Bruno, Pogba, rashford, martial should be running rings around players with keep ball

Our defenders get no respite.

posted on 26/9/20

comment by MMaaxx (U9506)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.
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Ole is the issue.
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It’s both.

posted on 26/9/20

This performance was better than last week but we won't progress much unless we start tightening up. Too loose in possession and shockingly poor at the back. The two full backs were poor going forward but were abysmal in defence.

3pts is all that matters at this stage so performances will follow but we got away with it today.

comment by MMaaxx (U9506)

posted on 26/9/20

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Reason-Not-the-Need (U4135)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by A Catalyst For Change (U7080)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by A Catalyst For Change (U7080)
posted 1 minute ago
Ole is a really average manager at best. I think any prem manager wouldn’t do any worse with your squad, if ole was at someone like Southampton he’d get them relegated. Crazy Man U are still sticking with him, surely could easily get a much better manager than him
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You are probably wrong. Third and the semis were better than an average manager would have got last year
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With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement
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Exactly! Especially if the 3rd place is achieved with 66 points.
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It was still third
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Thanks to Bruno

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by MMaaxx (U9506)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.
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Ole is the issue.
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It’s both.
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3rd element is Ed

comment by Kobra (U19849)

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by MMaaxx (U9506)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.
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Ole is the issue.
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It’s both.
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Not so sure now daz.

Player wise we are not worse than BHA. On paper we have more skill and talent. Where BHA outdid us was in style and a plan.

We have neither. We don't attack in numbers, our defence gets no respite. We don't keep the ball enough in forward positions

Surely that's management?

comment by MMaaxx (U9506)

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 26 seconds ago
This performance was better than last week but we won't progress much unless we start tightening up. Too loose in possession and shockingly poor at the back. The two full backs were poor going forward but were abysmal in defence.

3pts is all that matters at this stage so performances will follow but we got away with it today.
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Not sure it was any better. If Brighton had a Zaha in attack they’d have walked it

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 26/9/20

Just about summed up last season in one game really.

* Only a 50% of a defence in Shaw and Maguire - so an expected shambles.

* nowt but huffnpuff in front of the midfield

* Not the responsibility of midfielders to defend, other than by not losing the ball.

* come away with a spawny win

Still, lfc got away with last year so shouldn't grumble.

but things can be made to be so much more certain if the line up and bench features 11 mufc quality/level players instead of just Pogba, matic, maguire and fernandes, Fred, DvdB and some deadbeats.

Terrible shapeless performance - grateful for the win but it will mask many players ineptitude.

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by MMaaxx (U9506)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ole is the issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s both.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not so sure now daz.

Player wise we are not worse than BHA. On paper we have more skill and talent. Where BHA outdid us was in style and a plan.

We have neither. We don't attack in numbers, our defence gets no respite. We don't keep the ball enough in forward positions

Surely that's management?
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I agree with that. But there are obvious issues with the squad as well. Over the course of a season the lack of quality and depth is obvious. It’s exasperated by the management, however. This has been the case every season since Fergie retired.

comment by MMaaxx (U9506)

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by MMaaxx (U9506)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ole is the issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s both.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not so sure now daz.

Player wise we are not worse than BHA. On paper we have more skill and talent. Where BHA outdid us was in style and a plan.

We have neither. We don't attack in numbers, our defence gets no respite. We don't keep the ball enough in forward positions

Surely that's management?
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Agreed.

Start the season with 2 easy games and should have lost both heavily. Today was heaps of luck against a team that on paper ManU should absolutely smash. Couldn’t identify any evidence of training or Pre planning. What is this teams style and identity? Struture?

posted on 26/9/20

Not a great defensive display but fack me fans memories are unbelievable at times.

We have had no preseason.
The players had two weeks rest from last season.
They played one pre season friendly.
This is the third game including preseason that they will have played.
We finished third literally just a few weeks ago playing some cracking football.

Give it time, we will undoubtably improve. I also think we will add a player or two before the window shuts.

Enjoy the win, great entertainment, and that’s what footys about!

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.
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No, it’s not. Ole is the problem

comment by Kobra (U19849)

posted on 26/9/20

Daz

Don't disagree that squad needs depth etc

However even under LVG and Jose there was a style and a plan. Not saying they were good styles but they existed

Under Ole we look lost, disjointed and unsure

posted on 26/9/20

Jesus wept.

Two games in and we just won.

Poor performance but save the diagnosis for later in the season ffs.

comment by MMaaxx (U9506)

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by MMaaxx (U9506)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ole is the issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s both.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not so sure now daz.

Player wise we are not worse than BHA. On paper we have more skill and talent. Where BHA outdid us was in style and a plan.

We have neither. We don't attack in numbers, our defence gets no respite. We don't keep the ball enough in forward positions

Surely that's management?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with that. But there are obvious issues with the squad as well. Over the course of a season the lack of quality and depth is obvious. It’s exasperated by the management, however. This has been the case every season since Fergie retired.
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The squad ain’t perfect but compared to other teams only City and possibly Liverpool is better. It’s not a real excuse. Poch, Ancelotti etc would make this squad a solid 3rd before the season started and pushing the top 2. Ole will rely on moments of magic from a handful of players and challenge for top 6. Club deserves better. He would be out the door if not a club legend

posted on 26/9/20

What were the styles and plans under LVG and Jose?

posted on 26/9/20

comment by MMaaxx (U9506)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by MMaaxx (U9506)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
With the squad you have that’s not that great of an achievement

....:

The squad is the issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ole is the issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s both.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not so sure now daz.

Player wise we are not worse than BHA. On paper we have more skill and talent. Where BHA outdid us was in style and a plan.

We have neither. We don't attack in numbers, our defence gets no respite. We don't keep the ball enough in forward positions

Surely that's management?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with that. But there are obvious issues with the squad as well. Over the course of a season the lack of quality and depth is obvious. It’s exasperated by the management, however. This has been the case every season since Fergie retired.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The squad ain’t perfect but compared to other teams only City and possibly Liverpool is better. It’s not a real excuse. Poch, Ancelotti etc would make this squad a solid 3rd before the season started and pushing the top 2. Ole will rely on moments of magic from a handful of players and challenge for top 6. Club deserves better. He would be out the door if not a club legend
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Wtf are you on about.

We did finish third last season you doughnut.

comment by Kobra (U19849)

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 45 seconds ago
Jesus wept.

Two games in and we just won.

Poor performance but save the diagnosis for later in the season ffs.
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A genuine discussion isn't a bad thing winston.

I'm not ole out as such and have said we needed him to steady the ship. However I've never thought he would be the guy to lead us to the gold.

Seeing the team now, and yes we could do with a signing or two, but it's time to develop and identity

posted on 26/9/20

That was often the case under LVG and Mourinho as well. An unbalanced squad, with inconsistent players and management that isn’t the best (or suited to the squad in many cases) is going to lead to what we’ve seen since Fergie retired.

With regard to the squad it’s more than just depth. There are fundamental flaws with many of the players regularly starting for Manchester United.

That’ll still be the case whether Klopp, Pep or Fergie was managing the team.

posted on 26/9/20

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 45 seconds ago
Jesus wept.

Two games in and we just won.

Poor performance but save the diagnosis for later in the season ffs.
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A genuine discussion isn't a bad thing winston.

I'm not ole out as such and have said we needed him to steady the ship. However I've never thought he would be the guy to lead us to the gold.

Seeing the team now, and yes we could do with a signing or two, but it's time to develop and identity
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Yeh, fair point.

But some of the comments here are OTT for two games in, imo.

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