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FT: Man Utd 4-1 Istanbul Basaksehir

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posted on 24/11/20

Greenwood needs to start getting his head up a bit more and look for his teammates. He did well to set up James but it's an area of his game that needs improving.

If it was Rashford or Martial cutting inside from the left although they do tend to shoot quite a lot as well they do look to pick a teammate out more often than Greenwood does.

posted on 24/11/20

Diafol we could have got smashed in the last 2 games but we would have still been qualified due to h2h rules.

posted on 24/11/20

comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
United have won their last seven home games in European competition by an aggregate score of 24-2.

and yet domestically we pull up short constantly in the home games.
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PL teams play us often and realise how shiiiiit we are.

posted on 24/11/20

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted about a minute ago
Diafol we could have got smashed in the last 2 games but we would have still been qualified due to h2h rules.
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Not quite. Three teams could have finished on 12 points then it'd be goal difference of those games. Unlikely to happen but possible.

posted on 24/11/20

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted about a minute ago
Diafol we could have got smashed in the last 2 games but we would have still been qualified due to h2h rules.
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Not quite. Three teams could have finished on 12 points then it'd be goal difference of those games. Unlikely to happen but possible.
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You’re arguing numbers with Hafi? Just - just be careful.

posted on 24/11/20

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posted on 24/11/20

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted less than a minute ago
So if cavani goes 5 games plus without a goal that’s okay?
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If he links the attack nicely and we score 4 goals a game yeah. If he doesn’t contribute to anything, plays poorly and also doesn’t score, then no.

Not really an easy question to answer unless it happens.

posted on 24/11/20

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 52 seconds ago
So if cavani goes 5 games plus without a goal that’s okay?
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Obviously we want him to score goals; I just think it’s pointless sticking an arbitrary figure of 20 on him. If he plays well, keeps defences busy and helps others score in winning performances, I don’t mind if his own goal return is leaner than 20.

posted on 24/11/20

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted about a minute ago
Diafol we could have got smashed in the last 2 games but we would have still been qualified due to h2h rules.
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Not quite. Three teams could have finished on 12 points then it'd be goal difference of those games. Unlikely to happen but possible.
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You’re arguing numbers with Hafi? Just - just be careful.
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I am right though!

posted on 24/11/20

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted about a minute ago
Diafol we could have got smashed in the last 2 games but we would have still been qualified due to h2h rules.
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Not quite. Three teams could have finished on 12 points then it'd be goal difference of those games. Unlikely to happen but possible.
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You’re arguing numbers with Hafi? Just - just be careful.
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I am right though!
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Have you factored in expected points?

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted about a minute ago
Diafol we could have got smashed in the last 2 games but we would have still been qualified due to h2h rules.
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Not quite. Three teams could have finished on 12 points then it'd be goal difference of those games. Unlikely to happen but possible.
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You’re arguing numbers with Hafi? Just - just be careful.
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I am right though!
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Have you factored in expected points?
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No. Damn! That's one Hafi will win then!

posted on 25/11/20

What is frustrating, is the loss in Turkey. If United had won away at Basaksehir, we would have wrapped up qualification already.
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United are certain to qualify from one of the toughest groups in this season’s competition if they can just beat Istanbul home and away in the next two games and it would be fully in their character to come away from the two fixtures with two points, but they really should win.
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posted on 25/11/20

I also heard after we beat Leipzig that we just needed 2 wins against Istanbul to qualify but now we bottled it, we just need a draw. I think PSG will be scared of us.

posted on 25/11/20

So we probably only need 1 point from the next 2 games?

posted on 25/11/20

No 1 point is guaranteed to see us qualify.

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 45 minutes ago
So we probably only need 1 point from the next 2 games?
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Beating PSG would be nice. That’d give Leipzig the opportunity to go second, three points clear of PSG.

Then we can fack Tuchel off by playing the U18s against Leipzig and gifting them second place

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
What is frustrating, is the loss in Turkey. If United had won away at Basaksehir, we would have wrapped up qualification already.
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United are certain to qualify from one of the toughest groups in this season’s competition if they can just beat Istanbul home and away in the next two games and it would be fully in their character to come away from the two fixtures with two points, but they really should win.
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Had we beaten IB twice we still wouldn't be through mathematically as two very heavy defeats against RB and PSG could have seen us go out.

posted on 25/11/20

I don’t know. I know PSG have a better h2h than Leipzig. We also scored most away goals in h2h so far. I think if we lost 6-0 to Leipzig then we could go out I suppose.

posted on 25/11/20

Ultimately if we lose our next two games we’ll likely be out

posted on 25/11/20

Yeah but PSG are rubbish and as are Leipzig. We are also finding form in creating a lot of chances. PSG were lucky to beat Istanbul as they created twice as many chances against PSG then they did vs us. They just kept missing.

posted on 25/11/20

I won’t be surprised if Istanbul beat both these sides. They seemed to be the best side we faced.

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 3 minutes ago
I won’t be surprised if Istanbul beat both these sides. They seemed to be the best side we faced.
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Lol, lay off the drugs please Hafi.

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 29 minutes ago
I don’t know. I know PSG have a better h2h than Leipzig. We also scored most away goals in h2h so far. I think if we lost 6-0 to Leipzig then we could go out I suppose.
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If all three teams finished on 12 points then the positions would have been decided by results between the three teams on 12 points. It would be highly unlikely that United would have gone out on 12 points (thanks to the 5-0 v RB) but possible.

Hopefully by the time we play PSG IB will have done us a favour in the early kick off.

posted on 25/11/20

Even if Leipzig draw with Istanbul - if we lose at home to PSG (which is very possible now PSG have all their players back) it will come down to a winner takes all game in Germany

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Robb Pochettino - ๐Ÿงข Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Even if Leipzig draw with Istanbul - if we lose at home to PSG (which is very possible now PSG have all their players back) it will come down to a winner takes all game in Germany
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I think PSG will play right into our hands, again, and we’ll pick them off on the counter.

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