Cruyff has a greater legacy in some ways, I don't think he was as good though.
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
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He didn't play in 78
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
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He didn't play in 78
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Oh wow, I thought he did! What happened?
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
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He didn't play in 78
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Oh wow, I thought he did! What happened?
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/apr/16/newsstory.sport15
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
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He didn't play in 78
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Some Aussie called Alston invented the Cryuff turn 5 days prior to Cruyff inventing it.
https://youtu.be/d__kMsNK-Ys
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
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He didn't play in 78
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Oh wow, I thought he did! What happened?
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/apr/16/newsstory.sport15
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What the Hell?! Even when the Great man passed I didn’t hear of this!! That’s bonkers!
And now after all this time someone showing me he didn’t invent the Turn!!
Is it because it was clean, and against Brazil and he left his man for dead!?
It was against Sweden, not Brazil.
Think that’s three strikes you’re out, stringer
Dammit! I can hear the Incredible Hulk end credits playing, I’ll just grab me coat....
Man, I thought It was Brazil in Blue... they were wearing blue right?
Maradona was better but Cruyf was a coach on the pitch. He instructed the players where to move and which runs they should make to unlock defences.
The touch and close control of Maradona and his dribbling was much better.
Messi is better than both
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He didn't play in 78
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some Aussie called Alston invented the Cryuff turn 5 days prior to Cruyff inventing it.
https://youtu.be/d__kMsNK-Ys
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Did you ever try the turn in a match.
I did, fell over ball.. went home crying.
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Messi is better than both
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Not better than Maradona. He was head and shoulders better than any other player that's ever played the game. Completely flawed human being as well, no doubt. His football talent was immeasurable though.
comment by Superb #Stopthesteal (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Messi is better than both
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Not better than Maradona. He was head and shoulders better than any other player that's ever played the game. Completely flawed human being as well, no doubt. His football talent was immeasurable though.
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Hmmm.. What about Ronaldo and Messi stats. Surely those can't be ignored. Maradona didn't come close to those stats.
Personally I think Ronaldo and Messi are the best players that we have ever seen.
Best players in my lifetime: maradonna, best, pele, ronaldo & messi. No one else is close to those five.
A very good piece by Guillem Balague for BBC sport. He says everything about Maradona that you have to agree with,
but you also have to remember that no-one fully understood the man,he didn't even understand himself ! he was a cheat on and off the pitch,but he was also a loving ,caring and generous man,a true enigma.
A wonderful player second only to Messi, in my opinion.
RIP Diego.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Superb #Stopthesteal (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Messi is better than both
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Not better than Maradona. He was head and shoulders better than any other player that's ever played the game. Completely flawed human being as well, no doubt. His football talent was immeasurable though.
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Hmmm.. What about Ronaldo and Messi stats. Surely those can't be ignored. Maradona didn't come close to those stats.
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Those are goalscoring stats which while very impressive don't necessarily determine everything. I prefer to look at how Maradona dragged a very average Argentina side with no other memorable players to winning a World Cup. Messi by comparison wasn't even able to win a World Cup with Argentina in a team with other top players like Aguero.
Also Maradona went to a complete non entity Napoli side in 1984 that never won anything and had only just avoided relegation when he joined. And within a couple of seasons he'd made them Serie A Champions in an era when Serie A was at it's peak with great sides like AC Milan and Juve filled with stars like Platini, Gullit etc.
And he didn't just guide Napoli to one title but two titles as well as a Uefa Cup. The size of that achievement cannot be underestimated as it's positively Herculean. And I seriously doubt any other player could have matched that immense impact that Maradona had.
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posted on 26/11/20
Cruyff has a greater legacy in some ways, I don't think he was as good though.
posted on 26/11/20
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
posted on 26/11/20
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He didn't play in 78
posted on 26/11/20
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He didn't play in 78
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Oh wow, I thought he did! What happened?
posted on 26/11/20
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He didn't play in 78
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh wow, I thought he did! What happened?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/apr/16/newsstory.sport15
posted on 26/11/20
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He didn't play in 78
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some Aussie called Alston invented the Cryuff turn 5 days prior to Cruyff inventing it.
https://youtu.be/d__kMsNK-Ys
posted on 26/11/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He didn't play in 78
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh wow, I thought he did! What happened?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/apr/16/newsstory.sport15
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What the Hell?! Even when the Great man passed I didn’t hear of this!! That’s bonkers!
And now after all this time someone showing me he didn’t invent the Turn!!
Is it because it was clean, and against Brazil and he left his man for dead!?
posted on 26/11/20
It was against Sweden, not Brazil.
Think that’s three strikes you’re out, stringer
posted on 26/11/20
Dammit! I can hear the Incredible Hulk end credits playing, I’ll just grab me coat....
Man, I thought It was Brazil in Blue... they were wearing blue right?
posted on 26/11/20
Maradona was better but Cruyf was a coach on the pitch. He instructed the players where to move and which runs they should make to unlock defences.
The touch and close control of Maradona and his dribbling was much better.
posted on 26/11/20
Messi is better than both
posted on 26/11/20
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 minutes ago
He did invent the ‘turn’.. ushered in Total Football.
Back to back WC finals.
But I agree with Hoody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He didn't play in 78
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some Aussie called Alston invented the Cryuff turn 5 days prior to Cruyff inventing it.
https://youtu.be/d__kMsNK-Ys
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you ever try the turn in a match.
I did, fell over ball.. went home crying.
posted on 26/11/20
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Messi is better than both
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Not better than Maradona. He was head and shoulders better than any other player that's ever played the game. Completely flawed human being as well, no doubt. His football talent was immeasurable though.
posted on 26/11/20
comment by Superb #Stopthesteal (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Messi is better than both
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Not better than Maradona. He was head and shoulders better than any other player that's ever played the game. Completely flawed human being as well, no doubt. His football talent was immeasurable though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hmmm.. What about Ronaldo and Messi stats. Surely those can't be ignored. Maradona didn't come close to those stats.
posted on 26/11/20
Personally I think Ronaldo and Messi are the best players that we have ever seen.
posted on 26/11/20
Best players in my lifetime: maradonna, best, pele, ronaldo & messi. No one else is close to those five.
posted on 26/11/20
A very good piece by Guillem Balague for BBC sport. He says everything about Maradona that you have to agree with,
but you also have to remember that no-one fully understood the man,he didn't even understand himself ! he was a cheat on and off the pitch,but he was also a loving ,caring and generous man,a true enigma.
A wonderful player second only to Messi, in my opinion.
RIP Diego.
posted on 27/11/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Superb #Stopthesteal (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Messi is better than both
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Not better than Maradona. He was head and shoulders better than any other player that's ever played the game. Completely flawed human being as well, no doubt. His football talent was immeasurable though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hmmm.. What about Ronaldo and Messi stats. Surely those can't be ignored. Maradona didn't come close to those stats.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are goalscoring stats which while very impressive don't necessarily determine everything. I prefer to look at how Maradona dragged a very average Argentina side with no other memorable players to winning a World Cup. Messi by comparison wasn't even able to win a World Cup with Argentina in a team with other top players like Aguero.
Also Maradona went to a complete non entity Napoli side in 1984 that never won anything and had only just avoided relegation when he joined. And within a couple of seasons he'd made them Serie A Champions in an era when Serie A was at it's peak with great sides like AC Milan and Juve filled with stars like Platini, Gullit etc.
And he didn't just guide Napoli to one title but two titles as well as a Uefa Cup. The size of that achievement cannot be underestimated as it's positively Herculean. And I seriously doubt any other player could have matched that immense impact that Maradona had.
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