Not our night. Jut get the feeling we'll never win anything with Brendan, he doesn't seem to be able to get the critical games right.
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 16 minutes ago
Didn’t see them scoring from a corner at all
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Too true..... set piece or corner trainer needs training. Lol
Just didn’t happen tonight. Everton defended well and we had no answers. Frustrating game. Need to learn and move on.
Sort of game where we miss Pereira and Castagne for creativity. Poo
Brendan needs to learn, but we know he won’t.
Too many soft passes,
In last 15 minutes players not looking where there passing,
But well executed tactics by Everton,
Consistently inconsistent.
4 defeats out of 7 at home, that cannot be acceptable.
comment by dublin fox optimistically pessimistic, (now a Cambridge fox)(still can not spell fox) (U1131)
posted 1 minute ago
Too many soft passes,
In last 15 minutes players not looking where there passing,
But well executed tactics by Everton,
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Maybe so Dubs, but it's not new is it - this is the template how to beat us at the KP without any fans present. Will Brendan ever learn?
I’ve found the criticism of Rodgers a little farcical at times but I think he probably has to take this one of the chin tonight. Wrong starting 11, but this is in hindsight so forgivable, but not to make the sub at half time to move Ndidi up was frustrating and then to make a different tactical substitution and not address this was simply, in my opinion, a big mistake.
However, as mentioned, I find some of the previous criticism of him harsh and bordering on bizarre, so I’m not going to lay into him over one game
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 54 seconds ago
4 defeats out of 7 at home, that cannot be acceptable.
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Is there much difference between home and away at the minute? We’ve won more than any team in the league as it stands, but have also lost as many as any other team in the top 10 - and there in lies our problem as opposed to points comparison at home or away IMO
Not changing our style of play at home when faced against teams that sit off us and before tonight we have lost 3 times to these types of teams is poor management, and gets the criticism he deserves for it.
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 54 seconds ago
4 defeats out of 7 at home, that cannot be acceptable.
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Is there much difference between home and away at the minute? We’ve won more than any team in the league as it stands, but have also lost as many as any other team in the top 10 - and there in lies our problem as opposed to points comparison at home or away IMO
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It wouldn’t matter as much if I thought it would change when fans are allowed back which I highly doubt it will.
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 35 seconds ago
Not changing our style of play at home when faced against teams that sit off us and before tonight we have lost 3 times to these types of teams is poor management, and gets the criticism he deserves for it.
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I'd like to know what he could have done though, he had an attacking line up from the start, our best starting 5 up front to make chances.
We made chances, Tilly missed the whole goal and Vardy headed straight at the keeper.
Kasper made an uncharacteristic mistake putting us on the back foot.
Still, at least Tilly made a couple of forward passes, not sure what he actually did for the other 93 minutes but every other player will get the stick, should start calling him the teflon man.
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 1 minute ago
Not changing our style of play at home when faced against teams that sit off us and before tonight we have lost 3 times to these types of teams is poor management, and gets the criticism he deserves for it.
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Before tonight, I believe we’d won 5 out of the last 6 games at home in all competitions?? I would say he’d earned enough credit with regard to improving on the defeats to West Ham and Villa and tackling issues of breaking down teams who come to the King Power.
How were the peno call and the disallowed goal?
Had me staring at my Bet365 furiously for about 10 mins praying for one of them to be given
No criticism of Rodgers. Doing a great job.
But his post match interview tonight deserves criticism.
What was he talking about?
Turned it off immediately after we lost, tier2fox,
What was he saying!?
He was saying he’s was confused how we lost and will drive home wondering how we lost.
Erm, we created very little and we’re always vulnerable due to our defensive issues. But yeah, I also can’t believe how we lost?!
"He was saying he’s was confused how we lost and will drive home wondering how we lost."
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I found that baffling too. I could see exactly why we lost and thought Everton deserved it. They never looked out of control of the game and picked us off.
Not enough width, bad team selection; at least we tried to move the ball a bit faster at times, but not enough and no killer pass around the box. As for Perez, he should be embarrassed about that. 100% looking for it.
Rodgers has to come up with some different ideas, like getting Under on the left hand side, hugging touchlines to get around deep defences. Because that's four times now we've conceded the first goal at home and it's wiped us out of the game.
You could see from the 13th minute we were never going to win that game last night. Everton looked in control defensively and we had no answers.
It’s games like this where we miss Castagne and Pereira to create a totally different attacking threat. Let’s not forget our full first choice back line was out and as much as I love Fuchs, he looked out of his depth in last nights game.
Really hope we can get a result against our current nemesis Spurs. Their counter attacking style will be difficult to deal with though. Secondly a time to revert to Man City game tactics.
Who can sit the deepest?!
First ten twenty minutes and you could be telling if we'll win a match or not cos the manager can't help it. Sluggish starts in all our defeats, and all our five defeats this season were key to us challenging for the league title. It's a mental thing.. The manager is good but not good enough to challenge for the league.
I'm not sure it's so much the manager as not having the attacking players needed. If you look across the top clubs, the ones that genuinely challenge at the top of the table, they all have at least two serious attacking threats. For Liverpool's Salah, they also have Mane. For Tottenham's Kane, they also have Son. Man City have Aguero plus any number of talented players. I'm not sure Chelsea have their number 9 sorted but they have several options, most notably Pulisic. We have Vardy, but you can't put the rest of the forward players we have in the same bracket as Mane, Son, Sterling and Pulisic. We may like Barnes and Under, but they're not on the same level.
In 15/16, we had Mahrez on great form, making that double threat with Vardy that the rest of the team worked to release. With this team, we're most notably short that extra class players for opposition defences to be scared of.
I take your point Dunge, but shouldn’t Barnes and Under be those two players?
Yes they may struggle against the top teams but not in games where a team are set to dig in.
Maybe with some development, but they're not there yet. I think elsewhere on the pitch we have some super talent, albeit I think the youth of our back line is causing us to concede some goals that we shouldn't. But I don't see that same talent in forward areas.
Plus, I thought it was plainly obvious we were going to concede last night when I saw Barnes, Vardy and Under starting. There's attacking and then there's reckless. I know some people are excited about the prospect but to me it's asking for trouble. Like the other side of the coin from starting Ndidi and Mendy as a double pivot.
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posted on 16/12/20
Not our night. Jut get the feeling we'll never win anything with Brendan, he doesn't seem to be able to get the critical games right.
posted on 16/12/20
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 16 minutes ago
Didn’t see them scoring from a corner at all
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Too true..... set piece or corner trainer needs training. Lol
posted on 16/12/20
Just didn’t happen tonight. Everton defended well and we had no answers. Frustrating game. Need to learn and move on.
Sort of game where we miss Pereira and Castagne for creativity. Poo
posted on 16/12/20
Brendan needs to learn, but we know he won’t.
posted on 16/12/20
Too many soft passes,
In last 15 minutes players not looking where there passing,
But well executed tactics by Everton,
posted on 16/12/20
Consistently inconsistent.
posted on 16/12/20
4 defeats out of 7 at home, that cannot be acceptable.
posted on 16/12/20
comment by dublin fox optimistically pessimistic, (now a Cambridge fox)(still can not spell fox) (U1131)
posted 1 minute ago
Too many soft passes,
In last 15 minutes players not looking where there passing,
But well executed tactics by Everton,
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Maybe so Dubs, but it's not new is it - this is the template how to beat us at the KP without any fans present. Will Brendan ever learn?
posted on 16/12/20
I’ve found the criticism of Rodgers a little farcical at times but I think he probably has to take this one of the chin tonight. Wrong starting 11, but this is in hindsight so forgivable, but not to make the sub at half time to move Ndidi up was frustrating and then to make a different tactical substitution and not address this was simply, in my opinion, a big mistake.
However, as mentioned, I find some of the previous criticism of him harsh and bordering on bizarre, so I’m not going to lay into him over one game
posted on 16/12/20
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 54 seconds ago
4 defeats out of 7 at home, that cannot be acceptable.
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Is there much difference between home and away at the minute? We’ve won more than any team in the league as it stands, but have also lost as many as any other team in the top 10 - and there in lies our problem as opposed to points comparison at home or away IMO
posted on 16/12/20
Not changing our style of play at home when faced against teams that sit off us and before tonight we have lost 3 times to these types of teams is poor management, and gets the criticism he deserves for it.
posted on 16/12/20
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 54 seconds ago
4 defeats out of 7 at home, that cannot be acceptable.
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Is there much difference between home and away at the minute? We’ve won more than any team in the league as it stands, but have also lost as many as any other team in the top 10 - and there in lies our problem as opposed to points comparison at home or away IMO
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It wouldn’t matter as much if I thought it would change when fans are allowed back which I highly doubt it will.
posted on 16/12/20
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 35 seconds ago
Not changing our style of play at home when faced against teams that sit off us and before tonight we have lost 3 times to these types of teams is poor management, and gets the criticism he deserves for it.
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I'd like to know what he could have done though, he had an attacking line up from the start, our best starting 5 up front to make chances.
We made chances, Tilly missed the whole goal and Vardy headed straight at the keeper.
Kasper made an uncharacteristic mistake putting us on the back foot.
Still, at least Tilly made a couple of forward passes, not sure what he actually did for the other 93 minutes but every other player will get the stick, should start calling him the teflon man.
posted on 16/12/20
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 1 minute ago
Not changing our style of play at home when faced against teams that sit off us and before tonight we have lost 3 times to these types of teams is poor management, and gets the criticism he deserves for it.
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Before tonight, I believe we’d won 5 out of the last 6 games at home in all competitions?? I would say he’d earned enough credit with regard to improving on the defeats to West Ham and Villa and tackling issues of breaking down teams who come to the King Power.
posted on 16/12/20
How were the peno call and the disallowed goal?
Had me staring at my Bet365 furiously for about 10 mins praying for one of them to be given
posted on 16/12/20
No criticism of Rodgers. Doing a great job.
But his post match interview tonight deserves criticism.
What was he talking about?
posted on 16/12/20
Turned it off immediately after we lost, tier2fox,
What was he saying!?
posted on 16/12/20
He was saying he’s was confused how we lost and will drive home wondering how we lost.
Erm, we created very little and we’re always vulnerable due to our defensive issues. But yeah, I also can’t believe how we lost?!
posted on 16/12/20
"He was saying he’s was confused how we lost and will drive home wondering how we lost."
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I found that baffling too. I could see exactly why we lost and thought Everton deserved it. They never looked out of control of the game and picked us off.
Not enough width, bad team selection; at least we tried to move the ball a bit faster at times, but not enough and no killer pass around the box. As for Perez, he should be embarrassed about that. 100% looking for it.
posted on 16/12/20
Rodgers has to come up with some different ideas, like getting Under on the left hand side, hugging touchlines to get around deep defences. Because that's four times now we've conceded the first goal at home and it's wiped us out of the game.
posted on 17/12/20
You could see from the 13th minute we were never going to win that game last night. Everton looked in control defensively and we had no answers.
It’s games like this where we miss Castagne and Pereira to create a totally different attacking threat. Let’s not forget our full first choice back line was out and as much as I love Fuchs, he looked out of his depth in last nights game.
Really hope we can get a result against our current nemesis Spurs. Their counter attacking style will be difficult to deal with though. Secondly a time to revert to Man City game tactics.
Who can sit the deepest?!
posted on 17/12/20
First ten twenty minutes and you could be telling if we'll win a match or not cos the manager can't help it. Sluggish starts in all our defeats, and all our five defeats this season were key to us challenging for the league title. It's a mental thing.. The manager is good but not good enough to challenge for the league.
posted on 17/12/20
I'm not sure it's so much the manager as not having the attacking players needed. If you look across the top clubs, the ones that genuinely challenge at the top of the table, they all have at least two serious attacking threats. For Liverpool's Salah, they also have Mane. For Tottenham's Kane, they also have Son. Man City have Aguero plus any number of talented players. I'm not sure Chelsea have their number 9 sorted but they have several options, most notably Pulisic. We have Vardy, but you can't put the rest of the forward players we have in the same bracket as Mane, Son, Sterling and Pulisic. We may like Barnes and Under, but they're not on the same level.
In 15/16, we had Mahrez on great form, making that double threat with Vardy that the rest of the team worked to release. With this team, we're most notably short that extra class players for opposition defences to be scared of.
posted on 17/12/20
I take your point Dunge, but shouldn’t Barnes and Under be those two players?
Yes they may struggle against the top teams but not in games where a team are set to dig in.
posted on 17/12/20
Maybe with some development, but they're not there yet. I think elsewhere on the pitch we have some super talent, albeit I think the youth of our back line is causing us to concede some goals that we shouldn't. But I don't see that same talent in forward areas.
Plus, I thought it was plainly obvious we were going to concede last night when I saw Barnes, Vardy and Under starting. There's attacking and then there's reckless. I know some people are excited about the prospect but to me it's asking for trouble. Like the other side of the coin from starting Ndidi and Mendy as a double pivot.
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