Also with both Havertz and Werner having zero positive impact on our team, it is now, after 15 games, a concern.
Werner doesn’t seem to be very good technically. Also quite small in stature, seems easy to push off the ball and lacks composure in front of goal.
I’m running out of words atm biggish. I remember playing well against Leeds but can’t remember other than that, our last good performance domestically
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m running out of words atm biggish. I remember playing well against Leeds but can’t remember other than that, our last good performance domestically
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Burnley and Sheff United who are both crap. One could argue we handled Spurs well, but that might be stretching it.
comment by 'Culer' (U22530)
posted 5 minutes ago
Werner doesn’t seem to be very good technically. Also quite small in stature, seems easy to push off the ball and lacks composure in front of goal.
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Well that sums up his Chelsea career to date for sure. Looked a different player for Leipzig though.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 'Culer' (U22530)
posted 5 minutes ago
Werner doesn’t seem to be very good technically. Also quite small in stature, seems easy to push off the ball and lacks composure in front of goal.
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Well that sums up his Chelsea career to date for sure. Looked a different player for Leipzig though.
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Wasn’t he all about pace in Germany though? He looks a bit too weak for me at the minute. Quite erratic in from of goal too, bit like Morata in that respect
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m running out of words atm biggish. I remember playing well against Leeds but can’t remember other than that, our last good performance domestically
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Burnley and Sheff United who are both crap. One could argue we handled Spurs well, but that might be stretching it.
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I did fear at the time the Brighton performance might set a tone of sorts but assumed I was being paranoid. Looking a bit out of sync with so many new players is one thing, I 100% get that, but it was such a damp squid of a match from our prospective.
It sucked out much of the positive energy our transfer window gave us & I know I'm not the only one who felt that. Every since the struggle to find balance & fluidity has been laborious.
Fancy getting beat by that lot yesterday!
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fancy getting beat by that lot yesterday!
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I know. Just awful from us.
Chelsea were very poor yesterday. What was the defense doing for the 3rd goal?
Pants pulled down by relegation fodder
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 7 minutes ago
Chelsea were very poor yesterday. What was the defense doing for the 3rd goal?
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No words for the whole performance. Just awful all round. Can't explain it.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 7 minutes ago
Pants pulled down by relegation fodder
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Yep
Won't be long before Roman pulls the trigger
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Won't be long before Roman pulls the trigger
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Depends how we respond. But he won't accept many more repeats of yesterday.
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
Despite all the attackers you bought your style of football looks worse than last year. I don’t know why Chelsea seem to be so insistent on just getting it wide and crossing it to forwards that aren’t very good in the air (Giroud aside).
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars cha... (U10178)
posted 48 minutes ago
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
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Sorry, but Arsenal were not great yesterday. Yes better, but not great. If you think you will win a lot more games playing at that level you are most likely gonna be disappointed.
Chelsea just feckin surrendered. Anyone would have beaten Chelsea yesterday.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Despite all the attackers you bought your style of football looks worse than last year. I don’t know why Chelsea seem to be so insistent on just getting it wide and crossing it to forwards that aren’t very good in the air (Giroud aside).
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Without Havertz we've got more of a functional midfield than a creative one, mix in 433 with Kante at the base rather than Jorginho/Gilmour who can dictate play more and the ball's gunna be shifted to the wide spaces naturally. If we had a Barkley or RLC as an option that would add the variety necessary.
Loaning them both out was naïve, one fine but not both. Put too many eggs in the 4231 basket and went back on that less than a month later (which was the right decision). If we have the option to recall one we should exercise it next month.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars cha... (U10178)
posted 48 minutes ago
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
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Sorry, but Arsenal were not great yesterday. Yes better, but not great. If you think you will win a lot more games playing at that level you are most likely gonna be disappointed.
Chelsea just feckin surrendered. Anyone would have beaten Chelsea yesterday.
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Well it really should have been 5-1 in the end. As Shearer said, we made you look ordinary.
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars cha... (U10178)
posted 48 minutes ago
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
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Sorry, but Arsenal were not great yesterday. Yes better, but not great. If you think you will win a lot more games playing at that level you are most likely gonna be disappointed.
Chelsea just feckin surrendered. Anyone would have beaten Chelsea yesterday.
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Well it really should have been 5-1 in the end. As Shearer said, we made you look ordinary.
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I think we made ourselves look ordinary. If Arsenal suddenly start winning I'll reconsider, but as I said, I don't think Arsenal played that well. They were just by far the better team agst a woeful Chelsea.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars cha... (U10178)
posted 48 minutes ago
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
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Sorry, but Arsenal were not great yesterday. Yes better, but not great. If you think you will win a lot more games playing at that level you are most likely gonna be disappointed.
Chelsea just feckin surrendered. Anyone would have beaten Chelsea yesterday.
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Well it really should have been 5-1 in the end. As Shearer said, we made you look ordinary.
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I think we made ourselves look ordinary. If Arsenal suddenly start winning I'll reconsider, but as I said, I don't think Arsenal played that well. They were just by far the better team agst a woeful Chelsea.
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Whilst I agree that that result will mean nothing if we don’t win our next few. The introduction of Martinelli and other hungry youngsters have made a big difference in terms of energy. Even in the first half against City the other night their was effort there. I think we pressed you well and stopped you playing, this is a Chelsea team that could score gone 2nd in the league. You were strong favourites.
It doesn’t look creative with Havertz in there either. Going wide all the time isn’t actually a bad thing, it’s more that the combination play doesn’t look that impressive, it’s just get it wide and cross.
I guess the issue last season as well was that you were so often having to up the tempo in search of goals due to how vulnerable you were at the back.
You look more solid and controlled, for the most part, but less attacking and more boring. I said last season you were like a shiiiiit version of Klopp’s early Liverpool team. Now you’re like a shiiit version of Liverpool’s cross merchants.
comment by 'Culer' (U22530)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Werner doesn’t seem to be very good technically. Also quite small in stature, seems easy to push off the ball and lacks composure in front of goal.
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We've actually got about three player in this category....I wouldn't say Werner is one of these though
Been saying for a month or more how flakey some of our players are...
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posted on 27/12/20
Also with both Havertz and Werner having zero positive impact on our team, it is now, after 15 games, a concern.
posted on 27/12/20
Werner doesn’t seem to be very good technically. Also quite small in stature, seems easy to push off the ball and lacks composure in front of goal.
posted on 27/12/20
I’m running out of words atm biggish. I remember playing well against Leeds but can’t remember other than that, our last good performance domestically
posted on 27/12/20
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m running out of words atm biggish. I remember playing well against Leeds but can’t remember other than that, our last good performance domestically
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Burnley and Sheff United who are both crap. One could argue we handled Spurs well, but that might be stretching it.
posted on 27/12/20
comment by 'Culer' (U22530)
posted 5 minutes ago
Werner doesn’t seem to be very good technically. Also quite small in stature, seems easy to push off the ball and lacks composure in front of goal.
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Well that sums up his Chelsea career to date for sure. Looked a different player for Leipzig though.
posted on 27/12/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 'Culer' (U22530)
posted 5 minutes ago
Werner doesn’t seem to be very good technically. Also quite small in stature, seems easy to push off the ball and lacks composure in front of goal.
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Well that sums up his Chelsea career to date for sure. Looked a different player for Leipzig though.
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Wasn’t he all about pace in Germany though? He looks a bit too weak for me at the minute. Quite erratic in from of goal too, bit like Morata in that respect
posted on 27/12/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m running out of words atm biggish. I remember playing well against Leeds but can’t remember other than that, our last good performance domestically
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Burnley and Sheff United who are both crap. One could argue we handled Spurs well, but that might be stretching it.
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I did fear at the time the Brighton performance might set a tone of sorts but assumed I was being paranoid. Looking a bit out of sync with so many new players is one thing, I 100% get that, but it was such a damp squid of a match from our prospective.
It sucked out much of the positive energy our transfer window gave us & I know I'm not the only one who felt that. Every since the struggle to find balance & fluidity has been laborious.
posted on 27/12/20
Fancy getting beat by that lot yesterday!
posted on 27/12/20
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fancy getting beat by that lot yesterday!
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I know. Just awful from us.
posted on 27/12/20
Chelsea were very poor yesterday. What was the defense doing for the 3rd goal?
posted on 27/12/20
Pants pulled down by relegation fodder
posted on 27/12/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 7 minutes ago
Chelsea were very poor yesterday. What was the defense doing for the 3rd goal?
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No words for the whole performance. Just awful all round. Can't explain it.
posted on 27/12/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 7 minutes ago
Pants pulled down by relegation fodder
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Yep
posted on 27/12/20
Won't be long before Roman pulls the trigger
posted on 27/12/20
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Won't be long before Roman pulls the trigger
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Depends how we respond. But he won't accept many more repeats of yesterday.
posted on 27/12/20
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
posted on 27/12/20
Despite all the attackers you bought your style of football looks worse than last year. I don’t know why Chelsea seem to be so insistent on just getting it wide and crossing it to forwards that aren’t very good in the air (Giroud aside).
posted on 27/12/20
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars cha... (U10178)
posted 48 minutes ago
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
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Sorry, but Arsenal were not great yesterday. Yes better, but not great. If you think you will win a lot more games playing at that level you are most likely gonna be disappointed.
Chelsea just feckin surrendered. Anyone would have beaten Chelsea yesterday.
posted on 27/12/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Despite all the attackers you bought your style of football looks worse than last year. I don’t know why Chelsea seem to be so insistent on just getting it wide and crossing it to forwards that aren’t very good in the air (Giroud aside).
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Without Havertz we've got more of a functional midfield than a creative one, mix in 433 with Kante at the base rather than Jorginho/Gilmour who can dictate play more and the ball's gunna be shifted to the wide spaces naturally. If we had a Barkley or RLC as an option that would add the variety necessary.
Loaning them both out was naïve, one fine but not both. Put too many eggs in the 4231 basket and went back on that less than a month later (which was the right decision). If we have the option to recall one we should exercise it next month.
posted on 27/12/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars cha... (U10178)
posted 48 minutes ago
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
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Sorry, but Arsenal were not great yesterday. Yes better, but not great. If you think you will win a lot more games playing at that level you are most likely gonna be disappointed.
Chelsea just feckin surrendered. Anyone would have beaten Chelsea yesterday.
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Well it really should have been 5-1 in the end. As Shearer said, we made you look ordinary.
posted on 27/12/20
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars cha... (U10178)
posted 48 minutes ago
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
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Sorry, but Arsenal were not great yesterday. Yes better, but not great. If you think you will win a lot more games playing at that level you are most likely gonna be disappointed.
Chelsea just feckin surrendered. Anyone would have beaten Chelsea yesterday.
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Well it really should have been 5-1 in the end. As Shearer said, we made you look ordinary.
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I think we made ourselves look ordinary. If Arsenal suddenly start winning I'll reconsider, but as I said, I don't think Arsenal played that well. They were just by far the better team agst a woeful Chelsea.
posted on 27/12/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars cha... (U10178)
posted 48 minutes ago
Is it much of a surprise for you lot yesterday. As bad as Arsenal have been this season we just put in a performance yesterday that we expect to see every week. With that level of performance we will win more than we will lose.
From outsider looking in Chelsea look like a top 6 side at the moment maybe top 4. Your new signings haven't pushed you any further forward. Right now Havertz looks like a massive dud and Werner isn't much better they may get better but they don't look on it at the moment. Add in your manager who quite honestly shouldn't be in a job this size is another thing hampering you.
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Sorry, but Arsenal were not great yesterday. Yes better, but not great. If you think you will win a lot more games playing at that level you are most likely gonna be disappointed.
Chelsea just feckin surrendered. Anyone would have beaten Chelsea yesterday.
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Well it really should have been 5-1 in the end. As Shearer said, we made you look ordinary.
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I think we made ourselves look ordinary. If Arsenal suddenly start winning I'll reconsider, but as I said, I don't think Arsenal played that well. They were just by far the better team agst a woeful Chelsea.
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Whilst I agree that that result will mean nothing if we don’t win our next few. The introduction of Martinelli and other hungry youngsters have made a big difference in terms of energy. Even in the first half against City the other night their was effort there. I think we pressed you well and stopped you playing, this is a Chelsea team that could score gone 2nd in the league. You were strong favourites.
posted on 27/12/20
Have*
posted on 27/12/20
It doesn’t look creative with Havertz in there either. Going wide all the time isn’t actually a bad thing, it’s more that the combination play doesn’t look that impressive, it’s just get it wide and cross.
I guess the issue last season as well was that you were so often having to up the tempo in search of goals due to how vulnerable you were at the back.
You look more solid and controlled, for the most part, but less attacking and more boring. I said last season you were like a shiiiiit version of Klopp’s early Liverpool team. Now you’re like a shiiit version of Liverpool’s cross merchants.
posted on 27/12/20
comment by 'Culer' (U22530)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Werner doesn’t seem to be very good technically. Also quite small in stature, seems easy to push off the ball and lacks composure in front of goal.
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We've actually got about three player in this category....I wouldn't say Werner is one of these though
Been saying for a month or more how flakey some of our players are...
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