Ronaldo is clearly the player that most influences the team around him.
Anyone that plays the game can see Messi is very ordinary when not playing next to other more influential players. Messi is a great PART of a team - which is very important in a team sport, but if those around him were ordinary then he looked the same.
But players like Maradona and Ronaldo had such depth of talent and range of abilities that even ordinary players were lifted into winning teams.
It's a team sport, but they were just better than all the rest at making it a team sport.
Not really contestable.
Oh ....... and ANYONE that mentions Henry in lists of 'greatest of all time' etc., should have their accounts closed.
W@nkers.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 hours, 40 minutes ago
Not a popular choice with many, but I’d say Neymar has been one of the best players this past decade. A lot of people just can’t look past his gamesmanship and also forget that the fact he’s had the shiiit kicked out of him has forced him to miss out on the business end of the season several times.
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Not for me. So over rated. Watched him a lot in particular last season in the CL and he was awful for PSG. A very good player no doubt, but no way is Neymar top 10. If you offered me Neymar for Harry Kane, I wouldn’t even flinch.
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 3 minutes ago
Oh ....... and ANYONE that mentions Henry in lists of 'greatest of all time' etc., should have their accounts closed.
W@nkers.
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Certainly above Salah, imho!
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comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke (U19119)
posted 23 hours ago
Maggie thatcher: Paul scholes inspired me to create poll tax. He’s that good I knew people would forgive him. It’s also why Argentina wanted the falklands- its where Paul holidays.
Hitler: I only started the war as cover to try and get Paul scholes, I knew this because of my time machine.
Donald Trump: he’s an aryan great, well kind of, he’s ginger but he’s marvellous, I’d have won the election if I had him.
Jordan Henderson: who is he? Excuse me I have to park my car in this disabled spot.
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comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 18 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I do think Salah is a tad underrated by many. He's broken all kinds of records and his numbers are insane.
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He’s a world class player. I don’t think that can be contested. Comfortably one of the top ten players in the world over the last four years.
I’m actually struggling to think of another PL side that has ever contained so many world class players. Not the United sides of 1998-2000 or 2008-10, for sure. Not quite I’d say the City sides of the past five years. Chelsea 2005/6? Still probably not.
Klopp may have more elite superstars at his disposal than any previous PL manager I reckon.
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Really?
Scholes
Giggs
Ferdinand
Vidic
VDS
Evra
Ronaldo
Rooney
And personally I think Carrick has a shout but didn’t want him to detract attention from the original point.
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 18 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I do think Salah is a tad underrated by many. He's broken all kinds of records and his numbers are insane.
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He’s a world class player. I don’t think that can be contested. Comfortably one of the top ten players in the world over the last four years.
I’m actually struggling to think of another PL side that has ever contained so many world class players. Not the United sides of 1998-2000 or 2008-10, for sure. Not quite I’d say the City sides of the past five years. Chelsea 2005/6? Still probably not.
Klopp may have more elite superstars at his disposal than any previous PL manager I reckon.
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Really?
Scholes
Giggs
Ferdinand
Vidic
VDS
Evra
Ronaldo
Rooney
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Very top tier all at the same time?
2007/9 we probably had VDS, Ferdinand, Ronaldo and arguably Rooney and Vidic. Scholes and Giggs were past their peaks, Giggs in particular.
That squad was a better squad than Liverpool have now, but I can’t count six WC players in there.
All a matter of opinion, of course.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 hours, 40 minutes ago
Not a popular choice with many, but I’d say Neymar has been one of the best players this past decade. A lot of people just can’t look past his gamesmanship and also forget that the fact he’s had the shiiit kicked out of him has forced him to miss out on the business end of the season several times.
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Not for me. So over rated. Watched him a lot in particular last season in the CL and he was awful for PSG. A very good player no doubt, but no way is Neymar top 10. If you offered me Neymar for Harry Kane, I wouldn’t even flinch.
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I'm not his biggest fan either Don but I can't deny his talent and would have him above Salah at least. Would struggle to get into a top 15 though.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 hours, 40 minutes ago
Not a popular choice with many, but I’d say Neymar has been one of the best players this past decade. A lot of people just can’t look past his gamesmanship and also forget that the fact he’s had the shiiit kicked out of him has forced him to miss out on the business end of the season several times.
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Not for me. So over rated. Watched him a lot in particular last season in the CL and he was awful for PSG. A very good player no doubt, but no way is Neymar top 10. If you offered me Neymar for Harry Kane, I wouldn’t even flinch.
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I'm not his biggest fan either Don but I can't deny his talent and would have him above Salah at least. Would struggle to get into a top 15 though.
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No way would you swap Neymar for Kane though Spurtle. I think most fans would have Harry Kane over Neymar.
Salah 3rd And how can you have a Player of the Century award after 20 years out of a 100 ffs
CR7's statue will look better.
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 18 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I do think Salah is a tad underrated by many. He's broken all kinds of records and his numbers are insane.
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He’s a world class player. I don’t think that can be contested. Comfortably one of the top ten players in the world over the last four years.
I’m actually struggling to think of another PL side that has ever contained so many world class players. Not the United sides of 1998-2000 or 2008-10, for sure. Not quite I’d say the City sides of the past five years. Chelsea 2005/6? Still probably not.
Klopp may have more elite superstars at his disposal than any previous PL manager I reckon.
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Really?
Scholes
Giggs
Ferdinand
Vidic
VDS
Evra
Ronaldo
Rooney
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Very top tier all at the same time?
2007/9 we probably had VDS, Ferdinand, Ronaldo and arguably Rooney and Vidic. Scholes and Giggs were past their peaks, Giggs in particular.
That squad was a better squad than Liverpool have now, but I can’t count six WC players in there.
All a matter of opinion, of course.
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Personally I think only Giggs off that list wasn't a world class player from 06-08.
Liverpool at the moment probably have:
Alison
Trent
VVD
Robertson
Thiago
Salah
Mane
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 18 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I do think Salah is a tad underrated by many. He's broken all kinds of records and his numbers are insane.
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He’s a world class player. I don’t think that can be contested. Comfortably one of the top ten players in the world over the last four years.
I’m actually struggling to think of another PL side that has ever contained so many world class players. Not the United sides of 1998-2000 or 2008-10, for sure. Not quite I’d say the City sides of the past five years. Chelsea 2005/6? Still probably not.
Klopp may have more elite superstars at his disposal than any previous PL manager I reckon.
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Really?
Scholes
Giggs
Ferdinand
Vidic
VDS
Evra
Ronaldo
Rooney
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Very top tier all at the same time?
2007/9 we probably had VDS, Ferdinand, Ronaldo and arguably Rooney and Vidic. Scholes and Giggs were past their peaks, Giggs in particular.
That squad was a better squad than Liverpool have now, but I can’t count six WC players in there.
All a matter of opinion, of course.
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I think from United you'd go:
Ronaldo
Rio
VDS
Vidic
Rooney
Evra
Each of those players were among the best in their position at the time, without question. Carrick, Scholes & Tevez not too far behind.
For Liverpool I'd go:
Allison
Robertson
VVD
TAA
Salah
Thiago
Fabinho & Mane not too far behind them. I think it's pretty equal, frankly. Mane maybe makes the initial list - I had him in there and then removed him again. I mean, we're splitting hairs aren't we?
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posted on 29/12/20
Ronaldo is clearly the player that most influences the team around him.
Anyone that plays the game can see Messi is very ordinary when not playing next to other more influential players. Messi is a great PART of a team - which is very important in a team sport, but if those around him were ordinary then he looked the same.
But players like Maradona and Ronaldo had such depth of talent and range of abilities that even ordinary players were lifted into winning teams.
It's a team sport, but they were just better than all the rest at making it a team sport.
Not really contestable.
posted on 29/12/20
Oh ....... and ANYONE that mentions Henry in lists of 'greatest of all time' etc., should have their accounts closed.
W@nkers.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 hours, 40 minutes ago
Not a popular choice with many, but I’d say Neymar has been one of the best players this past decade. A lot of people just can’t look past his gamesmanship and also forget that the fact he’s had the shiiit kicked out of him has forced him to miss out on the business end of the season several times.
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Not for me. So over rated. Watched him a lot in particular last season in the CL and he was awful for PSG. A very good player no doubt, but no way is Neymar top 10. If you offered me Neymar for Harry Kane, I wouldn’t even flinch.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 3 minutes ago
Oh ....... and ANYONE that mentions Henry in lists of 'greatest of all time' etc., should have their accounts closed.
W@nkers.
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Certainly above Salah, imho!
posted on 29/12/20
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posted on 29/12/20
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke (U19119)
posted 23 hours ago
Maggie thatcher: Paul scholes inspired me to create poll tax. He’s that good I knew people would forgive him. It’s also why Argentina wanted the falklands- its where Paul holidays.
Hitler: I only started the war as cover to try and get Paul scholes, I knew this because of my time machine.
Donald Trump: he’s an aryan great, well kind of, he’s ginger but he’s marvellous, I’d have won the election if I had him.
Jordan Henderson: who is he? Excuse me I have to park my car in this disabled spot.
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Must’ve missed those
posted on 29/12/20
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 18 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I do think Salah is a tad underrated by many. He's broken all kinds of records and his numbers are insane.
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He’s a world class player. I don’t think that can be contested. Comfortably one of the top ten players in the world over the last four years.
I’m actually struggling to think of another PL side that has ever contained so many world class players. Not the United sides of 1998-2000 or 2008-10, for sure. Not quite I’d say the City sides of the past five years. Chelsea 2005/6? Still probably not.
Klopp may have more elite superstars at his disposal than any previous PL manager I reckon.
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Really?
Scholes
Giggs
Ferdinand
Vidic
VDS
Evra
Ronaldo
Rooney
posted on 29/12/20
And personally I think Carrick has a shout but didn’t want him to detract attention from the original point.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 18 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I do think Salah is a tad underrated by many. He's broken all kinds of records and his numbers are insane.
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He’s a world class player. I don’t think that can be contested. Comfortably one of the top ten players in the world over the last four years.
I’m actually struggling to think of another PL side that has ever contained so many world class players. Not the United sides of 1998-2000 or 2008-10, for sure. Not quite I’d say the City sides of the past five years. Chelsea 2005/6? Still probably not.
Klopp may have more elite superstars at his disposal than any previous PL manager I reckon.
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Really?
Scholes
Giggs
Ferdinand
Vidic
VDS
Evra
Ronaldo
Rooney
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very top tier all at the same time?
2007/9 we probably had VDS, Ferdinand, Ronaldo and arguably Rooney and Vidic. Scholes and Giggs were past their peaks, Giggs in particular.
That squad was a better squad than Liverpool have now, but I can’t count six WC players in there.
All a matter of opinion, of course.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 hours, 40 minutes ago
Not a popular choice with many, but I’d say Neymar has been one of the best players this past decade. A lot of people just can’t look past his gamesmanship and also forget that the fact he’s had the shiiit kicked out of him has forced him to miss out on the business end of the season several times.
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Not for me. So over rated. Watched him a lot in particular last season in the CL and he was awful for PSG. A very good player no doubt, but no way is Neymar top 10. If you offered me Neymar for Harry Kane, I wouldn’t even flinch.
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I'm not his biggest fan either Don but I can't deny his talent and would have him above Salah at least. Would struggle to get into a top 15 though.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 hours, 40 minutes ago
Not a popular choice with many, but I’d say Neymar has been one of the best players this past decade. A lot of people just can’t look past his gamesmanship and also forget that the fact he’s had the shiiit kicked out of him has forced him to miss out on the business end of the season several times.
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Not for me. So over rated. Watched him a lot in particular last season in the CL and he was awful for PSG. A very good player no doubt, but no way is Neymar top 10. If you offered me Neymar for Harry Kane, I wouldn’t even flinch.
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I'm not his biggest fan either Don but I can't deny his talent and would have him above Salah at least. Would struggle to get into a top 15 though.
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No way would you swap Neymar for Kane though Spurtle. I think most fans would have Harry Kane over Neymar.
posted on 29/12/20
Salah 3rd And how can you have a Player of the Century award after 20 years out of a 100 ffs
posted on 29/12/20
CR7's statue will look better.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 18 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I do think Salah is a tad underrated by many. He's broken all kinds of records and his numbers are insane.
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He’s a world class player. I don’t think that can be contested. Comfortably one of the top ten players in the world over the last four years.
I’m actually struggling to think of another PL side that has ever contained so many world class players. Not the United sides of 1998-2000 or 2008-10, for sure. Not quite I’d say the City sides of the past five years. Chelsea 2005/6? Still probably not.
Klopp may have more elite superstars at his disposal than any previous PL manager I reckon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?
Scholes
Giggs
Ferdinand
Vidic
VDS
Evra
Ronaldo
Rooney
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very top tier all at the same time?
2007/9 we probably had VDS, Ferdinand, Ronaldo and arguably Rooney and Vidic. Scholes and Giggs were past their peaks, Giggs in particular.
That squad was a better squad than Liverpool have now, but I can’t count six WC players in there.
All a matter of opinion, of course.
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Personally I think only Giggs off that list wasn't a world class player from 06-08.
Liverpool at the moment probably have:
Alison
Trent
VVD
Robertson
Thiago
Salah
Mane
posted on 29/12/20
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 18 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I do think Salah is a tad underrated by many. He's broken all kinds of records and his numbers are insane.
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He’s a world class player. I don’t think that can be contested. Comfortably one of the top ten players in the world over the last four years.
I’m actually struggling to think of another PL side that has ever contained so many world class players. Not the United sides of 1998-2000 or 2008-10, for sure. Not quite I’d say the City sides of the past five years. Chelsea 2005/6? Still probably not.
Klopp may have more elite superstars at his disposal than any previous PL manager I reckon.
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Really?
Scholes
Giggs
Ferdinand
Vidic
VDS
Evra
Ronaldo
Rooney
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Very top tier all at the same time?
2007/9 we probably had VDS, Ferdinand, Ronaldo and arguably Rooney and Vidic. Scholes and Giggs were past their peaks, Giggs in particular.
That squad was a better squad than Liverpool have now, but I can’t count six WC players in there.
All a matter of opinion, of course.
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I think from United you'd go:
Ronaldo
Rio
VDS
Vidic
Rooney
Evra
Each of those players were among the best in their position at the time, without question. Carrick, Scholes & Tevez not too far behind.
For Liverpool I'd go:
Allison
Robertson
VVD
TAA
Salah
Thiago
Fabinho & Mane not too far behind them. I think it's pretty equal, frankly. Mane maybe makes the initial list - I had him in there and then removed him again. I mean, we're splitting hairs aren't we?
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