comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ars is Foot (U10984)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Let's not count our chickens. He's desperate to get every penny out of us that he can, so he'll either want his contract paying off or stay an Arsenal player until June.
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Pay him off. Worth it to get his toxic influence out of this club. Already said all this in the Summer. The club shots themselves in the foot by not getting rid but they won’t make the same mistake again. He’s leaving one way or another
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I agree. I dont know why they haven't bothered already? Must be something to do with his contract, and will be more expensive to pay him out than let him run it down.
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place. For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
"for no actual reason"
My point exactly.
Have you had an eye test since 1969?
comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place.For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
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Agreed. The OP is an embarrassing mess who calls people a girl if they have a different opinion to him. Probably a spotty little lad who dreams of losing his virginity one day to the fittest girl in his school but will probably have to settle for the fat lass who sweats a lot.
It would be interesting to see a psychological study of why a collection of our fans continue to support a player that has so massively let the club down for 5+ years.
Is it so difficult to admit the truth/admit you were wrong?
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see a psychological study of why a collection of our fans continue to support a player that has so massively let the club down for 5+ years.
Is it so difficult to admit the truth/admit you were wrong?
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Who is this targeted at? Ozil is a lazy ponce who should have left years ago. However, me agreeing that Ozil should leave doesn't make the OP any less of a wa-nnker
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see a psychological study of why a collection of our fans continue to support a player that has so massively let the club down for 5+ years.
Is it so difficult to admit the truth/admit you were wrong?
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Who is this targeted at? Ozil is a lazy ponce who should have left years ago. However, me agreeing that Ozil should leave doesn't make the OP any less of a wa-nnker
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Anyone that has spent the last year or two calling for Ozil's return and refusing to acknowledge how bad he was / his complete lack of work rate / effort / desire and how that hindered the team and affected the dressing room.
That's not even really mentioning the other internal off-the-pitch issues he's caused.
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see a psychological study of why a collection of our fans continue to support a player that has so massively let the club down for 5+ years.
Is it so difficult to admit the truth/admit you were wrong?
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Who is this targeted at? Ozil is a lazy ponce who should have left years ago. However, me agreeing that Ozil should leave doesn't make the OP any less of a wa-nnker
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Anyone that has spent the last year or two calling for Ozil's return and refusing to acknowledge how bad he was / his complete lack of work rate / effort / desire and how that hindered the team and affected the dressing room.
That's not even really mentioning the other internal off-the-pitch issues he's caused.
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Fair play. Agree, Ozil should leave pronto
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 7 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
One thing I don't understand is why do you think it is insult to be fan of someone? You say it like it's embarrassing to be fan of some player. I'm an Arsenal fan but I have some players I like more and some players I don't like. What is wrong with it?
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I'm daft enough to follow the Arsenal facebook page and there are many on there who practically worship Ozil, he's bigger than the club in their eyes. There was one guy who thinks he deserves some sort of send off, like for what ffs? Some take being a fan of someone to an unhealthy level.
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There was a thread on twitter ages ago where Ozil fans were saying he's a bigger Arsenal legend than Bergkamp, other Arsenal fans telling them how ridiculous that was and ended up with the Ozil fans trashing and insulting Bergkamp Couldn't believe it
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 7 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
One thing I don't understand is why do you think it is insult to be fan of someone? You say it like it's embarrassing to be fan of some player. I'm an Arsenal fan but I have some players I like more and some players I don't like. What is wrong with it?
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I'm daft enough to follow the Arsenal facebook page and there are many on there who practically worship Ozil, he's bigger than the club in their eyes. There was one guy who thinks he deserves some sort of send off, like for what ffs? Some take being a fan of someone to an unhealthy level.
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Okay I agree, but it doesn't mean that every Arsenal fan that thinks Ozil was a good player and liked him is this kind of "fanboy". No player is bigger than a club. Thing is players attract kids to start rooting for some club and they look at that players like Gods. I became Arsenal fan cause of Henry and I was crazy about him, but he was never bigger than club, he was reason I started loving Arsenal, there are kids that started loving Arsenal because of Ozil.
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Ozil has this unique kind of fanbase that hero worships him that I haven't seen with any other Arsenal player. When you factor in how garbage he's been it just makes it weirder. Henry's our greatest player and Ozil's our biggest flop yet these people see Ozil as some Henry type legend.
Ozil has fantastic online brand presence (which is very transparent to anyone who isn't gullible), which goes a long way to explaining why he's the target of so much hero worship. He practically has the entire Turkish and Muslim world behind him online, as well as a significant chunk of younger fans who lean towards digitally-savvy "ballers". Very similar to how there's so much hero worship of Nadal, Hamilton, Cristiano Ronaldo etc.
It's a very interesting trend and I'd say reflective of the fact that the digital age has ushered in a whole new alternative to traditional role models. 50 years ago these saps would have been collecting Royal Family photos in their spare time, now they fawn over sports stars.
This guy seems to be suffering a severe case of the affliction I was describing:
https://twitter.com/Bass_Bizzle/status/910608920347103233
renoog Completely agree. But Nadal, Hamilton and CR are actually GOATS in their sports. The ozil case is a strange one.
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place.For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
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Agreed. The OP is an embarrassing mess who calls people a girl if they have a different opinion to him. Probably a spotty little lad who dreams of losing his virginity one day to the fittest girl in his school but will probably have to settle for the fat lass who sweats a lot.
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Tyke is sweet as a nut, hope you’re doing well out there Tyke, I’ll get you a pint, this one is for you:
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 7 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place.For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
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Agreed. The OP is an embarrassing mess who calls people a girl if they have a different opinion to him. Probably a spotty little lad who dreams of losing his virginity one day to the fittest girl in his school but will probably have to settle for the fat lass who sweats a lot.
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Calls someone out for using the phrase fangirl and then goes on to discriminate against fat girls. Real mature. Grow up
Ozil is leaving, sooner or later. I understand Ozil has become the great polarizer in the community, AW played that role for a while before this, but must we keep goading our fellow fans like this? Cannot we all get along?
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 20 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
One thing I don't understand is why do you think it is insult to be fan of someone? You say it like it's embarrassing to be fan of some player. I'm an Arsenal fan but I have some players I like more and some players I don't like. What is wrong with it?
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I'm daft enough to follow the Arsenal facebook page and there are many on there who practically worship Ozil, he's bigger than the club in their eyes. There was one guy who thinks he deserves some sort of send off, like for what ffs? Some take being a fan of someone to an unhealthy level.
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Okay I agree, but it doesn't mean that every Arsenal fan that thinks Ozil was a good player and liked him is this kind of "fanboy". No player is bigger than a club. Thing is players attract kids to start rooting for some club and they look at that players like Gods. I became Arsenal fan cause of Henry and I was crazy about him, but he was never bigger than club, he was reason I started loving Arsenal, there are kids that started loving Arsenal because of Ozil.
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How dare you even mention Ozil in the same breath as Henry.
The issue with the Ozil supporters is that they have been incredibly blind for years now and still seem to think he could be making some sort of contribution - despite the fact that he can't having been proven time and time again.
Just go look at his Arsenal stats, one good season around 5/6 years ago, maybe one average one and the rest fekkin dire.
All the while he's been stirring things up in the background and causing trouble in the dressing room as if he was some elite player that had the right to.
Our worst ever signing for all of those reasons when you factor in total expenditure. A bigger waste of money than Pepe.
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I was just making a statement that both had that impact that people started to cheer for Arsenal. Ofc he isn't close to Henry, but no player after Henry attracted so many fans.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 15 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 7 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
One thing I don't understand is why do you think it is insult to be fan of someone? You say it like it's embarrassing to be fan of some player. I'm an Arsenal fan but I have some players I like more and some players I don't like. What is wrong with it?
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I'm daft enough to follow the Arsenal facebook page and there are many on there who practically worship Ozil, he's bigger than the club in their eyes. There was one guy who thinks he deserves some sort of send off, like for what ffs? Some take being a fan of someone to an unhealthy level.
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Okay I agree, but it doesn't mean that every Arsenal fan that thinks Ozil was a good player and liked him is this kind of "fanboy". No player is bigger than a club. Thing is players attract kids to start rooting for some club and they look at that players like Gods. I became Arsenal fan cause of Henry and I was crazy about him, but he was never bigger than club, he was reason I started loving Arsenal, there are kids that started loving Arsenal because of Ozil.
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Ozil has this unique kind of fanbase that hero worships him that I haven't seen with any other Arsenal player. When you factor in how garbage he's been it just makes it weirder. Henry's our greatest player and Ozil's our biggest flop yet these people see Ozil as some Henry type legend.
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I don't think there are a lot of "these people" that think Ozil is bigger than Henry.
Ohh it's a joyous time. Buyyyy Mesuuut
Predictably the his little ass-lick squad (aka fanboys/girls) are now trolling either defending him at all cost, denying being the ass-lick squad and/or name calling at anyone calling them out for being what they are. So sad
Right couple things:
5-2 People only get called fanboys when the support the player so much, they put him before the club and more importantly, point blank refuse to admit flaws which are weaknesses to the team. I've supported most all the Wenger babies to the hilt, yet have rarely ever been called fanboy for doing so. Because I will actually admit if a player can't/doesn't do a b or c. I don't pretend the player is flawless. People might hate me but they respect that.
Renoog
Do bare very much in mind when talking about Ozil's Turkish fanbase, that these are people whom live in a dictatorship, where the dictator just happens to adore Ozil. You don't have to think too far to figure out that SM profile ain't born outta love. Turkish people are fanatical about their footy and this fecka chose to play for Germany. It's more likely they wanna kick his ass really
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
Ohh it's a joyous time. Buyyyy Mesuuut
Predictably the his little ass-lick squad (aka fanboys/girls) are now trolling either defending him at all cost, denying being the ass-lick squad and/or name calling at anyone calling them out for being what they are. So sad
Right couple things:
5-2 People only get called fanboys when the support the player so much, they put him before the club and more importantly, point blank refuse to admit flaws which are weaknesses to the team. I've supported most all the Wenger babies to the hilt, yet have rarely ever been called fanboy for doing so. Because I will actually admit if a player can't/doesn't do a b or c. I don't pretend the player is flawless. People might hate me but they respect that.
Renoog
Do bare very much in mind when talking about Ozil's Turkish fanbase, that these are people whom live in a dictatorship, where the dictator just happens to adore Ozil. You don't have to think too far to figure out that SM profile ain't born outta love. Turkish people are fanatical about their footy and this fecka chose to play for Germany. It's more likely they wanna kick his ass really
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You called me fanboy and I would never put player in front of club. Arsenal is my favorite club long before Ozil joined it. I like Ozil as a player, doesn't mean I am "fanboy" and he is in front of Arsenal. I like Saka as a player, does that mean I am Saka fanboy and he is bigger than Arsenal?
ou called me fanboy and I would never put player in front of club. Arsenal is my favorite club long before Ozil joined it. I like Ozil as a player, doesn't mean I am "fanboy" and he is in front of Arsenal. I like Saka as a player, does that mean I am Saka fanboy and he is bigger than Arsenal?
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You wanted Ozil back in the team this season. That IS putting him before the team.
In reality your wanting him back in the team isn't about it being good for the team at all. Because it isn't and would be, good for the team. Calling for it is all about your fantasy of how your hero Mesut would be returned from disgrace, to the Arsenal team. Then play like the superstar you know he is really and then he'll lead AFC back to glory restoring his rep on the way. And then you'll get to gloat at all the Arsenal fans who said it'd never happen.
You wanna live in footy la la land then by all means do. But being willing doing that at the expense of your football team, straight up makes you a fanboy. That's why I called you one. Suck it up, face the fact ya hero's done and stop trying to resurrect a rep that he himself couldn't give a rats ass about. Then maybe people wouldn't keep calling you a fanboy.
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 35 minutes ago
ou called me fanboy and I would never put player in front of club. Arsenal is my favorite club long before Ozil joined it. I like Ozil as a player, doesn't mean I am "fanboy" and he is in front of Arsenal. I like Saka as a player, does that mean I am Saka fanboy and he is bigger than Arsenal?
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You wanted Ozil back in the team this season. That IS putting him before the team.
In reality your wanting him back in the team isn't about it being good for the team at all. Because it isn't and would be, good for the team. Calling for it is all about your fantasy of how your hero Mesut would be returned from disgrace, to the Arsenal team. Then play like the superstar you know he is really and then he'll lead AFC back to glory restoring his rep on the way. And then you'll get to gloat at all the Arsenal fans who said it'd never happen.
You wanna live in footy la la land then by all means do. But being willing doing that at the expense of your football team, straight up makes you a fanboy. That's why I called you one. Suck it up, face the fact ya hero's done and stop trying to resurrect a rep that he himself couldn't give a rats ass about. Then maybe people wouldn't keep calling you a fanboy.
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That is your opinion that he is not good enough. My opinion is that he is good enough. That are not facts. Who are you to tell me if my opinion is wrong and your is right?
comment by New Choice City (U22363)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place.For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
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Agreed. The OP is an embarrassing mess who calls people a girl if they have a different opinion to him. Probably a spotty little lad who dreams of losing his virginity one day to the fittest girl in his school but will probably have to settle for the fat lass who sweats a lot.
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Tyke is sweet as a nut, hope you’re doing well out there Tyke, I’ll get you a pint, this one is for you:
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Cheers Choice! I'm doing good mate,hope you are too
Who's talking about good enough. You're so up the man you can't even understand what I am saying, you never have. You've repeatedly, like all the fanboys/girls just harped on and on and on about the level of his talent and ability. Of course he's good enough he's one of the world's most talented footballers so that's a given isn't it
It's not my opinion that all the talent in the world doesn't mean sh !t, if the person with it isn't willing to use it. That's a fact of life because we've seen enough flawed people crap talent away with laziness, to know it. Getting Ozil out isn't and never has been about whether or not he is good enough. Always about whether he cared enough. Never mind the crap he spouts in tweets or whatever. 4 years refusing to even try, tells you categorically that he doesn't.
And to answer your question, I'm a football fan who refuses to airbrush away Ozil's flaws just because he says I should, on twitter. I don't live in that ridiculous little echo chamber you do. Hence I'm able to see the truth about the man and have been for years.
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posted on 7/1/21
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ars is Foot (U10984)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Let's not count our chickens. He's desperate to get every penny out of us that he can, so he'll either want his contract paying off or stay an Arsenal player until June.
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Pay him off. Worth it to get his toxic influence out of this club. Already said all this in the Summer. The club shots themselves in the foot by not getting rid but they won’t make the same mistake again. He’s leaving one way or another
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I agree. I dont know why they haven't bothered already? Must be something to do with his contract, and will be more expensive to pay him out than let him run it down.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place. For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
posted on 7/1/21
"for no actual reason"
My point exactly.
Have you had an eye test since 1969?
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place.For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
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Agreed. The OP is an embarrassing mess who calls people a girl if they have a different opinion to him. Probably a spotty little lad who dreams of losing his virginity one day to the fittest girl in his school but will probably have to settle for the fat lass who sweats a lot.
posted on 7/1/21
It would be interesting to see a psychological study of why a collection of our fans continue to support a player that has so massively let the club down for 5+ years.
Is it so difficult to admit the truth/admit you were wrong?
posted on 7/1/21
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see a psychological study of why a collection of our fans continue to support a player that has so massively let the club down for 5+ years.
Is it so difficult to admit the truth/admit you were wrong?
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Who is this targeted at? Ozil is a lazy ponce who should have left years ago. However, me agreeing that Ozil should leave doesn't make the OP any less of a wa-nnker
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see a psychological study of why a collection of our fans continue to support a player that has so massively let the club down for 5+ years.
Is it so difficult to admit the truth/admit you were wrong?
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Who is this targeted at? Ozil is a lazy ponce who should have left years ago. However, me agreeing that Ozil should leave doesn't make the OP any less of a wa-nnker
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Anyone that has spent the last year or two calling for Ozil's return and refusing to acknowledge how bad he was / his complete lack of work rate / effort / desire and how that hindered the team and affected the dressing room.
That's not even really mentioning the other internal off-the-pitch issues he's caused.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see a psychological study of why a collection of our fans continue to support a player that has so massively let the club down for 5+ years.
Is it so difficult to admit the truth/admit you were wrong?
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Who is this targeted at? Ozil is a lazy ponce who should have left years ago. However, me agreeing that Ozil should leave doesn't make the OP any less of a wa-nnker
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Anyone that has spent the last year or two calling for Ozil's return and refusing to acknowledge how bad he was / his complete lack of work rate / effort / desire and how that hindered the team and affected the dressing room.
That's not even really mentioning the other internal off-the-pitch issues he's caused.
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Fair play. Agree, Ozil should leave pronto
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 7 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
One thing I don't understand is why do you think it is insult to be fan of someone? You say it like it's embarrassing to be fan of some player. I'm an Arsenal fan but I have some players I like more and some players I don't like. What is wrong with it?
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I'm daft enough to follow the Arsenal facebook page and there are many on there who practically worship Ozil, he's bigger than the club in their eyes. There was one guy who thinks he deserves some sort of send off, like for what ffs? Some take being a fan of someone to an unhealthy level.
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There was a thread on twitter ages ago where Ozil fans were saying he's a bigger Arsenal legend than Bergkamp, other Arsenal fans telling them how ridiculous that was and ended up with the Ozil fans trashing and insulting Bergkamp Couldn't believe it
posted on 7/1/21
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 7 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
One thing I don't understand is why do you think it is insult to be fan of someone? You say it like it's embarrassing to be fan of some player. I'm an Arsenal fan but I have some players I like more and some players I don't like. What is wrong with it?
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I'm daft enough to follow the Arsenal facebook page and there are many on there who practically worship Ozil, he's bigger than the club in their eyes. There was one guy who thinks he deserves some sort of send off, like for what ffs? Some take being a fan of someone to an unhealthy level.
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Okay I agree, but it doesn't mean that every Arsenal fan that thinks Ozil was a good player and liked him is this kind of "fanboy". No player is bigger than a club. Thing is players attract kids to start rooting for some club and they look at that players like Gods. I became Arsenal fan cause of Henry and I was crazy about him, but he was never bigger than club, he was reason I started loving Arsenal, there are kids that started loving Arsenal because of Ozil.
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Ozil has this unique kind of fanbase that hero worships him that I haven't seen with any other Arsenal player. When you factor in how garbage he's been it just makes it weirder. Henry's our greatest player and Ozil's our biggest flop yet these people see Ozil as some Henry type legend.
posted on 7/1/21
Ozil has fantastic online brand presence (which is very transparent to anyone who isn't gullible), which goes a long way to explaining why he's the target of so much hero worship. He practically has the entire Turkish and Muslim world behind him online, as well as a significant chunk of younger fans who lean towards digitally-savvy "ballers". Very similar to how there's so much hero worship of Nadal, Hamilton, Cristiano Ronaldo etc.
It's a very interesting trend and I'd say reflective of the fact that the digital age has ushered in a whole new alternative to traditional role models. 50 years ago these saps would have been collecting Royal Family photos in their spare time, now they fawn over sports stars.
posted on 7/1/21
This guy seems to be suffering a severe case of the affliction I was describing:
https://twitter.com/Bass_Bizzle/status/910608920347103233
posted on 7/1/21
renoog Completely agree. But Nadal, Hamilton and CR are actually GOATS in their sports. The ozil case is a strange one.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place.For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
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Agreed. The OP is an embarrassing mess who calls people a girl if they have a different opinion to him. Probably a spotty little lad who dreams of losing his virginity one day to the fittest girl in his school but will probably have to settle for the fat lass who sweats a lot.
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Tyke is sweet as a nut, hope you’re doing well out there Tyke, I’ll get you a pint, this one is for you:
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 7 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place.For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
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Agreed. The OP is an embarrassing mess who calls people a girl if they have a different opinion to him. Probably a spotty little lad who dreams of losing his virginity one day to the fittest girl in his school but will probably have to settle for the fat lass who sweats a lot.
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Calls someone out for using the phrase fangirl and then goes on to discriminate against fat girls. Real mature. Grow up
posted on 8/1/21
Ozil is leaving, sooner or later. I understand Ozil has become the great polarizer in the community, AW played that role for a while before this, but must we keep goading our fellow fans like this? Cannot we all get along?
posted on 8/1/21
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 20 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
One thing I don't understand is why do you think it is insult to be fan of someone? You say it like it's embarrassing to be fan of some player. I'm an Arsenal fan but I have some players I like more and some players I don't like. What is wrong with it?
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I'm daft enough to follow the Arsenal facebook page and there are many on there who practically worship Ozil, he's bigger than the club in their eyes. There was one guy who thinks he deserves some sort of send off, like for what ffs? Some take being a fan of someone to an unhealthy level.
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Okay I agree, but it doesn't mean that every Arsenal fan that thinks Ozil was a good player and liked him is this kind of "fanboy". No player is bigger than a club. Thing is players attract kids to start rooting for some club and they look at that players like Gods. I became Arsenal fan cause of Henry and I was crazy about him, but he was never bigger than club, he was reason I started loving Arsenal, there are kids that started loving Arsenal because of Ozil.
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How dare you even mention Ozil in the same breath as Henry.
The issue with the Ozil supporters is that they have been incredibly blind for years now and still seem to think he could be making some sort of contribution - despite the fact that he can't having been proven time and time again.
Just go look at his Arsenal stats, one good season around 5/6 years ago, maybe one average one and the rest fekkin dire.
All the while he's been stirring things up in the background and causing trouble in the dressing room as if he was some elite player that had the right to.
Our worst ever signing for all of those reasons when you factor in total expenditure. A bigger waste of money than Pepe.
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I was just making a statement that both had that impact that people started to cheer for Arsenal. Ofc he isn't close to Henry, but no player after Henry attracted so many fans.
posted on 8/1/21
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 15 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 7 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
One thing I don't understand is why do you think it is insult to be fan of someone? You say it like it's embarrassing to be fan of some player. I'm an Arsenal fan but I have some players I like more and some players I don't like. What is wrong with it?
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I'm daft enough to follow the Arsenal facebook page and there are many on there who practically worship Ozil, he's bigger than the club in their eyes. There was one guy who thinks he deserves some sort of send off, like for what ffs? Some take being a fan of someone to an unhealthy level.
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Okay I agree, but it doesn't mean that every Arsenal fan that thinks Ozil was a good player and liked him is this kind of "fanboy". No player is bigger than a club. Thing is players attract kids to start rooting for some club and they look at that players like Gods. I became Arsenal fan cause of Henry and I was crazy about him, but he was never bigger than club, he was reason I started loving Arsenal, there are kids that started loving Arsenal because of Ozil.
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Ozil has this unique kind of fanbase that hero worships him that I haven't seen with any other Arsenal player. When you factor in how garbage he's been it just makes it weirder. Henry's our greatest player and Ozil's our biggest flop yet these people see Ozil as some Henry type legend.
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I don't think there are a lot of "these people" that think Ozil is bigger than Henry.
posted on 8/1/21
Ohh it's a joyous time. Buyyyy Mesuuut
Predictably the his little ass-lick squad (aka fanboys/girls) are now trolling either defending him at all cost, denying being the ass-lick squad and/or name calling at anyone calling them out for being what they are. So sad
Right couple things:
5-2 People only get called fanboys when the support the player so much, they put him before the club and more importantly, point blank refuse to admit flaws which are weaknesses to the team. I've supported most all the Wenger babies to the hilt, yet have rarely ever been called fanboy for doing so. Because I will actually admit if a player can't/doesn't do a b or c. I don't pretend the player is flawless. People might hate me but they respect that.
Renoog
Do bare very much in mind when talking about Ozil's Turkish fanbase, that these are people whom live in a dictatorship, where the dictator just happens to adore Ozil. You don't have to think too far to figure out that SM profile ain't born outta love. Turkish people are fanatical about their footy and this fecka chose to play for Germany. It's more likely they wanna kick his ass really
posted on 8/1/21
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
Ohh it's a joyous time. Buyyyy Mesuuut
Predictably the his little ass-lick squad (aka fanboys/girls) are now trolling either defending him at all cost, denying being the ass-lick squad and/or name calling at anyone calling them out for being what they are. So sad
Right couple things:
5-2 People only get called fanboys when the support the player so much, they put him before the club and more importantly, point blank refuse to admit flaws which are weaknesses to the team. I've supported most all the Wenger babies to the hilt, yet have rarely ever been called fanboy for doing so. Because I will actually admit if a player can't/doesn't do a b or c. I don't pretend the player is flawless. People might hate me but they respect that.
Renoog
Do bare very much in mind when talking about Ozil's Turkish fanbase, that these are people whom live in a dictatorship, where the dictator just happens to adore Ozil. You don't have to think too far to figure out that SM profile ain't born outta love. Turkish people are fanatical about their footy and this fecka chose to play for Germany. It's more likely they wanna kick his ass really
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You called me fanboy and I would never put player in front of club. Arsenal is my favorite club long before Ozil joined it. I like Ozil as a player, doesn't mean I am "fanboy" and he is in front of Arsenal. I like Saka as a player, does that mean I am Saka fanboy and he is bigger than Arsenal?
posted on 8/1/21
ou called me fanboy and I would never put player in front of club. Arsenal is my favorite club long before Ozil joined it. I like Ozil as a player, doesn't mean I am "fanboy" and he is in front of Arsenal. I like Saka as a player, does that mean I am Saka fanboy and he is bigger than Arsenal?
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You wanted Ozil back in the team this season. That IS putting him before the team.
In reality your wanting him back in the team isn't about it being good for the team at all. Because it isn't and would be, good for the team. Calling for it is all about your fantasy of how your hero Mesut would be returned from disgrace, to the Arsenal team. Then play like the superstar you know he is really and then he'll lead AFC back to glory restoring his rep on the way. And then you'll get to gloat at all the Arsenal fans who said it'd never happen.
You wanna live in footy la la land then by all means do. But being willing doing that at the expense of your football team, straight up makes you a fanboy. That's why I called you one. Suck it up, face the fact ya hero's done and stop trying to resurrect a rep that he himself couldn't give a rats ass about. Then maybe people wouldn't keep calling you a fanboy.
posted on 8/1/21
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 35 minutes ago
ou called me fanboy and I would never put player in front of club. Arsenal is my favorite club long before Ozil joined it. I like Ozil as a player, doesn't mean I am "fanboy" and he is in front of Arsenal. I like Saka as a player, does that mean I am Saka fanboy and he is bigger than Arsenal?
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You wanted Ozil back in the team this season. That IS putting him before the team.
In reality your wanting him back in the team isn't about it being good for the team at all. Because it isn't and would be, good for the team. Calling for it is all about your fantasy of how your hero Mesut would be returned from disgrace, to the Arsenal team. Then play like the superstar you know he is really and then he'll lead AFC back to glory restoring his rep on the way. And then you'll get to gloat at all the Arsenal fans who said it'd never happen.
You wanna live in footy la la land then by all means do. But being willing doing that at the expense of your football team, straight up makes you a fanboy. That's why I called you one. Suck it up, face the fact ya hero's done and stop trying to resurrect a rep that he himself couldn't give a rats ass about. Then maybe people wouldn't keep calling you a fanboy.
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That is your opinion that he is not good enough. My opinion is that he is good enough. That are not facts. Who are you to tell me if my opinion is wrong and your is right?
posted on 9/1/21
comment by New Choice City (U22363)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wow a few Ozil fangirls have been RATTLED
RIP Tyke, the biggest fangirl of the lot
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Ahh..saying 'rattled',as though you have 'won' something. Sad little fool. You are dealing with a grown up here, I don't get 'rattled' or wound up on such a site, I just get to smile at you funny little youngsters,starting out in life and trying to find your place.For the record though, I've been following Arsenal since 1969. I've seen it all,heard it all. What I never saw though was silly people hating on a player for no actual reason,and trying to cause trouble amongst fellow Arsenal fans. Sad and pathetic is what you are..BUT..one day,you will mature,and you will cringe with embarrassment at this utter mess. Now run along child,and try to do better next time.
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Agreed. The OP is an embarrassing mess who calls people a girl if they have a different opinion to him. Probably a spotty little lad who dreams of losing his virginity one day to the fittest girl in his school but will probably have to settle for the fat lass who sweats a lot.
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Tyke is sweet as a nut, hope you’re doing well out there Tyke, I’ll get you a pint, this one is for you:
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Cheers Choice! I'm doing good mate,hope you are too
posted on 9/1/21
Who's talking about good enough. You're so up the man you can't even understand what I am saying, you never have. You've repeatedly, like all the fanboys/girls just harped on and on and on about the level of his talent and ability. Of course he's good enough he's one of the world's most talented footballers so that's a given isn't it
It's not my opinion that all the talent in the world doesn't mean sh !t, if the person with it isn't willing to use it. That's a fact of life because we've seen enough flawed people crap talent away with laziness, to know it. Getting Ozil out isn't and never has been about whether or not he is good enough. Always about whether he cared enough. Never mind the crap he spouts in tweets or whatever. 4 years refusing to even try, tells you categorically that he doesn't.
And to answer your question, I'm a football fan who refuses to airbrush away Ozil's flaws just because he says I should, on twitter. I don't live in that ridiculous little echo chamber you do. Hence I'm able to see the truth about the man and have been for years.
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