Very rare that Sagna has a bad game, hopefully he's got it out of his system before the Spurs game.
I've been saying this for months. WHAT do they offer us? How poor is chamakh? He had 3 chances yesterday when he should have scored. The half-volley was laughable.
Rosicky meanwhile had the cheek to have a go at ramsey for his own mis-placed pass. Why he did that I have no clue. Apart from a few turns he had a shocker.
Arshavin was OK, nothing more. I'd keep him because he can be quality when needed and is a great squad player.
The first two meanwhile have to be sold.
I think you've just highlighted why you will never be a premier league manager. Strikers can't score goals "on demand", even the very best go through rough patches and ditching Chamakh just because he hasn't been prolific is very short-sighted given we have no replacement, and he has not had a run of games or a chance to build his confidence. Last night he was involved in both goals, and made a good run for a chance to put us 3-0 up. Thierry Henry did not score a single goal for Arsenal in his first season, yet we stuck with him and it paid off handsomely. Chamakh was a good striker in ligue 1 and at the start of last season, and there's no good reason to believe he won't be again.
As for Rosicky, we won't get any money for him so we might as well keep him for his experience and to cover injuries in our young squad. Ditching players doesn't solve problems, unless you have better replacements ligned up. His passing was poor yesterday, but he was never brought in to be a playmaker, his best role was supporting the attackers and driving towards goal.
1. I disagree, Rosicky is useful as a squad player. Off the bench in premier league games and starting carling cup/ FA cup games, imo shouldn't be starting . I am another one of these Chamakh fans, we know he can do it. Just hoping he can regain that form.
2. Agree for the same reasons you've posted, I also think Coquelin is ahead of Frimpong technically.
3. Bit early for me, he had a good game last night but at Blackburn for me he was a bit suspect. I'm hoping he can continue his good form from last night.
4. I see Arteta as where Ramsey should've been if he didn't have the injury that set him back, mabye Arteta is better at set pieces
5. Two different players, one is a striker other a midfielder
Sagna didn't have a good game i agree, but i think you're exaggerating it a bit. He has a lot of good games that go unmentioned as well.
Between okezi and the verminator, it's hard to say whose the more re- tarded.
Actually it's verm because okezi was right about Santos.
Sagna has not been rested on enough games. Eboue used to cover him much better, but Jenkinson is not ready though Coquelin can play his position.
Gervinho's fivehead, before calling me re-tarded, tell me what was wrong about my comments. Chamakh has been a moving log for us whenever he has played. Its like playing with 10 men and your blind if you don't realise that. We can't afford to carry passengers in our team, we're under enough pressure as it is.
Maybe rosicky can still be a useful player but certainly he should not be starting.
Chamakh contributed crucially to both goals off the ball last night. His work rate is phenomenal and needed. Aside from that he played an inch perfect through ball to the ox early in the second half. His distribution is usually quality although sometimes he is over elaborate.
So you see he does bring plenty to us. Your problem is that you can only see the very obvious, and then armed with that, you make articles which I consider re-tarded.
Has the OP seen anything good yesterday???
I'm not a big fan of Rosicky but I have to admit, if he wasn't him, we would probably not be in the CL right now.
He came as sub against Udiness and did pretty well.
he still has sum way to go before getting to walcott's level, which is not so far off.
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He has some way to go, but isn't far off??
WTF?
he still has sum way to go before getting to walcott's level, which is not so far off.
and gervinho's forehead, I can only see the very obvious? So you admit that what i have said is obvious, chamakh and rosicky are not good enough to play for arsenal?
Looks like you are the re-tarded one here mate. Im not 'armed' with anything, im just, like you said, pointing out the obvious.
Rosicky had a good game against udinese but that is like 1 in a 100 performances.
Maybe i was being too harsh on him, but that doesn't make me or my opinions re-tarded.
Next time you watch a game, focus purely on the likes of rosicky and how he loses the ball time after time, and picks the wrong options.
Maybe he should only be bought on at half-time because that udinese game was special from him, admittedly. Apart from that game, I don't remember anything decent about him in terms of performances, do you?
When I say you only see the obvious I don't mean it as a compliment. I mean that you're incapable of seeing the subtle qualities these players bring to our team. I've already glossed over Chamakh's which you duly ignored in your last post. You don't understand why what a player does off the ball is so important? Fine, you know what I think.
Rosicky blows hot and cold but still has the raw talent to change games. It was him who sent Santos free down the left leading to our key 2nd goal. He often produces defence-splitting passes like those. His consistency or lack there of can be frustrating but as pointed out elsewhere, it's hard to be consistent without a platform to gain it first. So are those grounds for getting rid of Rosicky? Hardly.
Gervinho's fivehead. Fair
I don't know if its just me....but everytime i see rosicky or chamakh in the line-up, i know we will struggle.
I might be completely wrong, but it always happens and there's no getting away from that. You might point to chamakh's and rosicky's defence splitting pass each, but you can't ignore the other bad moments they had.
Chamakh seems to be missing majority of chances and Rosicky seems to be messing up majority of passes. Doesn't mean they can't do something right, just means they aren't doing it consistently enough and at times, they ARE passengers.
Well said verminator.
P.s. If there's a re-tarded person here its certainly not you.
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posted on 29/9/11
Very rare that Sagna has a bad game, hopefully he's got it out of his system before the Spurs game.
posted on 29/9/11
I've been saying this for months. WHAT do they offer us? How poor is chamakh? He had 3 chances yesterday when he should have scored. The half-volley was laughable.
Rosicky meanwhile had the cheek to have a go at ramsey for his own mis-placed pass. Why he did that I have no clue. Apart from a few turns he had a shocker.
Arshavin was OK, nothing more. I'd keep him because he can be quality when needed and is a great squad player.
The first two meanwhile have to be sold.
posted on 29/9/11
I think you've just highlighted why you will never be a premier league manager. Strikers can't score goals "on demand", even the very best go through rough patches and ditching Chamakh just because he hasn't been prolific is very short-sighted given we have no replacement, and he has not had a run of games or a chance to build his confidence. Last night he was involved in both goals, and made a good run for a chance to put us 3-0 up. Thierry Henry did not score a single goal for Arsenal in his first season, yet we stuck with him and it paid off handsomely. Chamakh was a good striker in ligue 1 and at the start of last season, and there's no good reason to believe he won't be again.
As for Rosicky, we won't get any money for him so we might as well keep him for his experience and to cover injuries in our young squad. Ditching players doesn't solve problems, unless you have better replacements ligned up. His passing was poor yesterday, but he was never brought in to be a playmaker, his best role was supporting the attackers and driving towards goal.
posted on 29/9/11
1. I disagree, Rosicky is useful as a squad player. Off the bench in premier league games and starting carling cup/ FA cup games, imo shouldn't be starting . I am another one of these Chamakh fans, we know he can do it. Just hoping he can regain that form.
2. Agree for the same reasons you've posted, I also think Coquelin is ahead of Frimpong technically.
3. Bit early for me, he had a good game last night but at Blackburn for me he was a bit suspect. I'm hoping he can continue his good form from last night.
4. I see Arteta as where Ramsey should've been if he didn't have the injury that set him back, mabye Arteta is better at set pieces
5. Two different players, one is a striker other a midfielder
Sagna didn't have a good game i agree, but i think you're exaggerating it a bit. He has a lot of good games that go unmentioned as well.
posted on 29/9/11
Between okezi and the verminator, it's hard to say whose the more re- tarded.
Actually it's verm because okezi was right about Santos.
posted on 29/9/11
Sagna has not been rested on enough games. Eboue used to cover him much better, but Jenkinson is not ready though Coquelin can play his position.
posted on 29/9/11
Gervinho's fivehead, before calling me re-tarded, tell me what was wrong about my comments. Chamakh has been a moving log for us whenever he has played. Its like playing with 10 men and your blind if you don't realise that. We can't afford to carry passengers in our team, we're under enough pressure as it is.
Maybe rosicky can still be a useful player but certainly he should not be starting.
posted on 29/9/11
Chamakh contributed crucially to both goals off the ball last night. His work rate is phenomenal and needed. Aside from that he played an inch perfect through ball to the ox early in the second half. His distribution is usually quality although sometimes he is over elaborate.
So you see he does bring plenty to us. Your problem is that you can only see the very obvious, and then armed with that, you make articles which I consider re-tarded.
posted on 29/9/11
Has the OP seen anything good yesterday???
I'm not a big fan of Rosicky but I have to admit, if he wasn't him, we would probably not be in the CL right now.
He came as sub against Udiness and did pretty well.
posted on 29/9/11
he still has sum way to go before getting to walcott's level, which is not so far off.
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He has some way to go, but isn't far off??
WTF?
posted on 29/9/11
he still has sum way to go before getting to walcott's level, which is not so far off.
and gervinho's forehead, I can only see the very obvious? So you admit that what i have said is obvious, chamakh and rosicky are not good enough to play for arsenal?
Looks like you are the re-tarded one here mate. Im not 'armed' with anything, im just, like you said, pointing out the obvious.
Rosicky had a good game against udinese but that is like 1 in a 100 performances.
Maybe i was being too harsh on him, but that doesn't make me or my opinions re-tarded.
Next time you watch a game, focus purely on the likes of rosicky and how he loses the ball time after time, and picks the wrong options.
Maybe he should only be bought on at half-time because that udinese game was special from him, admittedly. Apart from that game, I don't remember anything decent about him in terms of performances, do you?
posted on 29/9/11
When I say you only see the obvious I don't mean it as a compliment. I mean that you're incapable of seeing the subtle qualities these players bring to our team. I've already glossed over Chamakh's which you duly ignored in your last post. You don't understand why what a player does off the ball is so important? Fine, you know what I think.
Rosicky blows hot and cold but still has the raw talent to change games. It was him who sent Santos free down the left leading to our key 2nd goal. He often produces defence-splitting passes like those. His consistency or lack there of can be frustrating but as pointed out elsewhere, it's hard to be consistent without a platform to gain it first. So are those grounds for getting rid of Rosicky? Hardly.
posted on 29/9/11
Gervinho's fivehead. Fair
I don't know if its just me....but everytime i see rosicky or chamakh in the line-up, i know we will struggle.
I might be completely wrong, but it always happens and there's no getting away from that. You might point to chamakh's and rosicky's defence splitting pass each, but you can't ignore the other bad moments they had.
Chamakh seems to be missing majority of chances and Rosicky seems to be messing up majority of passes. Doesn't mean they can't do something right, just means they aren't doing it consistently enough and at times, they ARE passengers.
posted on 30/9/11
Well said verminator.
P.s. If there's a re-tarded person here its certainly not you.
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