comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
It's only the experience that I feel may undo Chelsea. Thd other three teams have all be around the block a few times.
Real were a lot better than I expected, their game management was excellent.
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Me too re Real. But compared to previous teams they looked to massively lack firepower, and I honestly think with 2 decent, experienced CBs you'd have gone through.
I see Chelsea beating them but the winner will probably come from the other side of the draw.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must... (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think we do. TT I think has the tactical edge over Zizou which shouldn’t be underestimated.
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ah yes, thomas erm.. hold on.. how many trophies outside of the farmers league??
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Fair point lol
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It really isn’t. Firstly he has won the domestic trophy in Germany with Dortmund. Secondly he has only been spent four years in management of clubs expected to get anywhere near trophies. 2015-2017 Dortmund, 2018-2020 PSG. And apparently 50% of that at PSG doesn’t count because ‘FaRmEr’s LeAgUe’ even though he took them to their first CL final (which they could’ve easily won, close game, they missed good chances) has their highest ever PPG for any manager, and PSG clearly struggling to dominate the league since he left.
Not only that if you’re insinuating that his trophies don’t count because PSG dominate the league, how exactly does that differ with Zizou? Finally all I said was tactical edge over Zizou, literally nothing about trophies. But then I’m not surprised this guy is only able to link ‘tactics’ with ‘trophies but they don’t count if it’s PSG’, I think my 5 year old cousin would have better critical thinking than that.
Dunc's been duncked ! ........
well said Vorsprung my man
and......... Yes We Can
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
It's only the experience that I feel may undo Chelsea. Thd other three teams have all be around the block a few times.
Real were a lot better than I expected, their game management was excellent.
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comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must... (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think we do. TT I think has the tactical edge over Zizou which shouldn’t be underestimated.
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ah yes, thomas erm.. hold on.. how many trophies outside of the farmers league??
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Fair point lol
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It really isn’t. Firstly he has won the domestic trophy in Germany with Dortmund. Secondly he has only been spent four years in management of clubs expected to get anywhere near trophies. 2015-2017 Dortmund, 2018-2020 PSG. And apparently 50% of that at PSG doesn’t count because ‘FaRmEr’s LeAgUe’ even though he took them to their first CL final (which they could’ve easily won, close game, they missed good chances) has their highest ever PPG for any manager, and PSG clearly struggling to dominate the league since he left.
Not only that if you’re insinuating that his trophies don’t count because PSG dominate the league, how exactly does that differ with Zizou? Finally all I said was tactical edge over Zizou, literally nothing about trophies. But then I’m not surprised this guy is only able to link ‘tactics’ with ‘trophies but they don’t count if it’s PSG’, I think my 5 year old cousin would have better critical thinking than that.
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the point is that Tuchel has at no point shown that he is technically superior to Zidane.
and you ask how tuchel's dominance is different to Zidanes... i think there is a big difference between coming up against Lyon and Marseille compared to Barcelona and the likes of Atletico.
add to the fact that zidane has won 3 champions leagues on the bounce and this would suggest that Tuchel is tactically superior is a bit moronic.
maybe you should sit down with that spawn of yours and let him try and explain
or sorry, you said cousin... should have guessed
If you have the fluke luck of 2012 on your side then, absolutely you could win it.
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke (U19119)
posted 21 seconds ago
If you have the fluke luck of 2012 on your side then, absolutely you could win it.
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you think chelsea were lucky to win the CL in 2012? you should say this more often.
Baz is like an old record,he goes on and on and on ! and forgets
how flukey Man U were in the final against Chelsea
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke (U19119)
posted 21 seconds ago
If you have the fluke luck of 2012 on your side then, absolutely you could win it.
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you think chelsea were lucky to win the CL in 2012? you should say this more often.
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That supposed to be an insult? Just curious?
comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
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That supposed to be an insult? Just curious?
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more a gentle nudge than an insult...but baz seems to have a single opinion on a range of topics (pogba, shaw, sancho), and his single opinion on chelsea in europe is that you fluked your way to a win in 2012.
and just as with his other single opinions, he brings it up at every opportunity (and if the opportunity doesn't really exist, he'll create it)...as harlequin says, he is the modern equivalent of a scratched LP, just going round and round forever, saying exactly the same thing.
Having the favour of the gods , some call luck, is something to be cherished and appreciated. Every great encounter has elements of that, skill alone is not sufficient to win in almost every sport.
Ah OK
I wouldn't disagree with it. However I'd also say after some of the exits the previous seven years we'd earned that luck.
comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 4 minutes ago
Ah OK
I wouldn't disagree with it. However I'd also say after some of the exits the previous seven years we'd earned that luck.
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Agree with that, you were due some. Also to be fair the defending your makeshift back like did in the final was pretty epic if I recall, a proper backs to the wall job. Bosingwa had a great game out of position if I’m remembering right.
Ignore don, he was one of those that made caaant of the year. Should have done better in or too, given his odious personality.
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke (U19119)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 4 minutes ago
Ah OK
I wouldn't disagree with it. However I'd also say after some of the exits the previous seven years we'd earned that luck.
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Agree with that, you were due some. Also to be fair the defending your makeshift back like did in the final was pretty epic if I recall, a proper backs to the wall job. Bosingwa had a great game out of position if I’m remembering right.
Ignore don, he was one of those that made caaant of the year. Should have done better in or too, given his odious personality.
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I believe it's Boswinga mate. Do you even listen to commentary?
Poch will in it. How ironic that would be!🤣
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 12 seconds ago
Poch will in it. How ironic that would be!🤣
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That would be funny to be fair
I’m actually kind of expecting an English final. City should go through and I think real can be got at.
Would be great, a London-Manchester double header in both of those competitions.
It would be interesting to see the odds as well !
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 3 minutes ago
Would be great, a London-Manchester double header in both of those competitions.
It would be interesting to see the odds as well !
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There's plenty of banter possibilities with those Europa S/F for United & Arsenal. 'Trust the process' Arteta getting booted out by 'good ebening' will be bloody hilarious
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must... (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think we do. TT I think has the tactical edge over Zizou which shouldn’t be underestimated.
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ah yes, thomas erm.. hold on.. how many trophies outside of the farmers league??
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Fair point lol
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It really isn’t. Firstly he has won the domestic trophy in Germany with Dortmund. Secondly he has only been spent four years in management of clubs expected to get anywhere near trophies. 2015-2017 Dortmund, 2018-2020 PSG. And apparently 50% of that at PSG doesn’t count because ‘FaRmEr’s LeAgUe’ even though he took them to their first CL final (which they could’ve easily won, close game, they missed good chances) has their highest ever PPG for any manager, and PSG clearly struggling to dominate the league since he left.
Not only that if you’re insinuating that his trophies don’t count because PSG dominate the league, how exactly does that differ with Zizou? Finally all I said was tactical edge over Zizou, literally nothing about trophies. But then I’m not surprised this guy is only able to link ‘tactics’ with ‘trophies but they don’t count if it’s PSG’, I think my 5 year old cousin would have better critical thinking than that.
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the point is that Tuchel has at no point shown that he is technically superior to Zidane.
and you ask how tuchel's dominance is different to Zidanes... i think there is a big difference between coming up against Lyon and Marseille compared to Barcelona and the likes of Atletico.
add to the fact that zidane has won 3 champions leagues on the bounce and this would suggest that Tuchel is tactically superior is a bit moronic.
maybe you should sit down with that spawn of yours and let him try and explain
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You really struggle with comprehension don’t you? Perhaps in your world a cousin is the same thing as your spawn but not for me.
All I said was I believe Tuchel has the tactical edge. I didn’t say Zidane was bad tactically. I didn’t say he hasn’t achieved great things as a manager. If all you can reply is the trophy count you’ve completely missed the point. If I want to compare managers tactically obviously I’m not doing to d that by going onto Wikipedia and comparing how many trophies they’ve won. You’re a very simple man, aren’t you?
I think it’ll be tough due to your lack of firepower, and there’s a lack of experience in the team for games of this magnitude.
That said, Madrid are out of their feet - and have a ridiculous injury record this season, so may flounder given their schedule. And there’s a hell of a lot of pressure on City and PSG to win if you were to get to the final.
Barring that mare against West Brom, you’ve been really solid since Tuchel came in. And he’s got a reputation for being tactically spot on in big games. So there’s still a decent chance, especially if you play without pressure as it’s all on your opponents.
Tuchel’s a tactically more sophisticated manager than Zidane (who does get underrated in that regard).
Trophies aren’t really an indication of tactical acumen. Fergie is the most successful manager ever, and wasn’t the best tactician (though like Zidane I think he was underrated in that regard as well).
I don't think you will, but you do look solid in defence so you have a decent chance against all 3 teams.
We shouldn't be winning it and I don't think we will win it this season. Could get to the final though.
comment by Rachel The Queen Riley (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 52 minutes ago
I think it’ll be tough due to your lack of firepower, and there’s a lack of experience in the team for games of this magnitude.
That said, Madrid are out of their feet - and have a ridiculous injury record this season, so may flounder given their schedule. And there’s a hell of a lot of pressure on City and PSG to win if you were to get to the final.
Barring that mare against West Brom, you’ve been really solid since Tuchel came in. And he’s got a reputation for being tactically spot on in big games. So there’s still a decent chance, especially if you play without pressure as it’s all on your opponents.
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Agree with all your points as to why we won't win the CL, but I do think we can get past Madrid. PSG or City i don't think so.
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posted on 16/4/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
It's only the experience that I feel may undo Chelsea. Thd other three teams have all be around the block a few times.
Real were a lot better than I expected, their game management was excellent.
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Me too re Real. But compared to previous teams they looked to massively lack firepower, and I honestly think with 2 decent, experienced CBs you'd have gone through.
I see Chelsea beating them but the winner will probably come from the other side of the draw.
posted on 16/4/21
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must... (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think we do. TT I think has the tactical edge over Zizou which shouldn’t be underestimated.
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ah yes, thomas erm.. hold on.. how many trophies outside of the farmers league??
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Fair point lol
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It really isn’t. Firstly he has won the domestic trophy in Germany with Dortmund. Secondly he has only been spent four years in management of clubs expected to get anywhere near trophies. 2015-2017 Dortmund, 2018-2020 PSG. And apparently 50% of that at PSG doesn’t count because ‘FaRmEr’s LeAgUe’ even though he took them to their first CL final (which they could’ve easily won, close game, they missed good chances) has their highest ever PPG for any manager, and PSG clearly struggling to dominate the league since he left.
Not only that if you’re insinuating that his trophies don’t count because PSG dominate the league, how exactly does that differ with Zizou? Finally all I said was tactical edge over Zizou, literally nothing about trophies. But then I’m not surprised this guy is only able to link ‘tactics’ with ‘trophies but they don’t count if it’s PSG’, I think my 5 year old cousin would have better critical thinking than that.
posted on 16/4/21
Dunc's been duncked ! ........
well said Vorsprung my man
and......... Yes We Can
posted on 16/4/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
It's only the experience that I feel may undo Chelsea. Thd other three teams have all be around the block a few times.
Real were a lot better than I expected, their game management was excellent.
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This
posted on 16/4/21
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must... (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think we do. TT I think has the tactical edge over Zizou which shouldn’t be underestimated.
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ah yes, thomas erm.. hold on.. how many trophies outside of the farmers league??
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Fair point lol
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It really isn’t. Firstly he has won the domestic trophy in Germany with Dortmund. Secondly he has only been spent four years in management of clubs expected to get anywhere near trophies. 2015-2017 Dortmund, 2018-2020 PSG. And apparently 50% of that at PSG doesn’t count because ‘FaRmEr’s LeAgUe’ even though he took them to their first CL final (which they could’ve easily won, close game, they missed good chances) has their highest ever PPG for any manager, and PSG clearly struggling to dominate the league since he left.
Not only that if you’re insinuating that his trophies don’t count because PSG dominate the league, how exactly does that differ with Zizou? Finally all I said was tactical edge over Zizou, literally nothing about trophies. But then I’m not surprised this guy is only able to link ‘tactics’ with ‘trophies but they don’t count if it’s PSG’, I think my 5 year old cousin would have better critical thinking than that.
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the point is that Tuchel has at no point shown that he is technically superior to Zidane.
and you ask how tuchel's dominance is different to Zidanes... i think there is a big difference between coming up against Lyon and Marseille compared to Barcelona and the likes of Atletico.
add to the fact that zidane has won 3 champions leagues on the bounce and this would suggest that Tuchel is tactically superior is a bit moronic.
maybe you should sit down with that spawn of yours and let him try and explain
posted on 16/4/21
or sorry, you said cousin... should have guessed
posted on 16/4/21
If you have the fluke luck of 2012 on your side then, absolutely you could win it.
posted on 16/4/21
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke (U19119)
posted 21 seconds ago
If you have the fluke luck of 2012 on your side then, absolutely you could win it.
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you think chelsea were lucky to win the CL in 2012? you should say this more often.
posted on 16/4/21
Baz is like an old record,he goes on and on and on ! and forgets
how flukey Man U were in the final against Chelsea
posted on 16/4/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke (U19119)
posted 21 seconds ago
If you have the fluke luck of 2012 on your side then, absolutely you could win it.
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you think chelsea were lucky to win the CL in 2012? you should say this more often.
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That supposed to be an insult? Just curious?
posted on 16/4/21
comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
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That supposed to be an insult? Just curious?
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more a gentle nudge than an insult...but baz seems to have a single opinion on a range of topics (pogba, shaw, sancho), and his single opinion on chelsea in europe is that you fluked your way to a win in 2012.
and just as with his other single opinions, he brings it up at every opportunity (and if the opportunity doesn't really exist, he'll create it)...as harlequin says, he is the modern equivalent of a scratched LP, just going round and round forever, saying exactly the same thing.
posted on 16/4/21
Having the favour of the gods , some call luck, is something to be cherished and appreciated. Every great encounter has elements of that, skill alone is not sufficient to win in almost every sport.
posted on 16/4/21
Ah OK
I wouldn't disagree with it. However I'd also say after some of the exits the previous seven years we'd earned that luck.
posted on 16/4/21
comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 4 minutes ago
Ah OK
I wouldn't disagree with it. However I'd also say after some of the exits the previous seven years we'd earned that luck.
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Agree with that, you were due some. Also to be fair the defending your makeshift back like did in the final was pretty epic if I recall, a proper backs to the wall job. Bosingwa had a great game out of position if I’m remembering right.
Ignore don, he was one of those that made caaant of the year. Should have done better in or too, given his odious personality.
posted on 16/4/21
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke (U19119)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 4 minutes ago
Ah OK
I wouldn't disagree with it. However I'd also say after some of the exits the previous seven years we'd earned that luck.
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Agree with that, you were due some. Also to be fair the defending your makeshift back like did in the final was pretty epic if I recall, a proper backs to the wall job. Bosingwa had a great game out of position if I’m remembering right.
Ignore don, he was one of those that made caaant of the year. Should have done better in or too, given his odious personality.
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I believe it's Boswinga mate. Do you even listen to commentary?
posted on 16/4/21
Poch will in it. How ironic that would be!🤣
posted on 16/4/21
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 12 seconds ago
Poch will in it. How ironic that would be!🤣
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That would be funny to be fair
I’m actually kind of expecting an English final. City should go through and I think real can be got at.
posted on 16/4/21
Would be great, a London-Manchester double header in both of those competitions.
It would be interesting to see the odds as well !
posted on 16/4/21
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 3 minutes ago
Would be great, a London-Manchester double header in both of those competitions.
It would be interesting to see the odds as well !
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There's plenty of banter possibilities with those Europa S/F for United & Arsenal. 'Trust the process' Arteta getting booted out by 'good ebening' will be bloody hilarious
posted on 16/4/21
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must... (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think we do. TT I think has the tactical edge over Zizou which shouldn’t be underestimated.
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ah yes, thomas erm.. hold on.. how many trophies outside of the farmers league??
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Fair point lol
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It really isn’t. Firstly he has won the domestic trophy in Germany with Dortmund. Secondly he has only been spent four years in management of clubs expected to get anywhere near trophies. 2015-2017 Dortmund, 2018-2020 PSG. And apparently 50% of that at PSG doesn’t count because ‘FaRmEr’s LeAgUe’ even though he took them to their first CL final (which they could’ve easily won, close game, they missed good chances) has their highest ever PPG for any manager, and PSG clearly struggling to dominate the league since he left.
Not only that if you’re insinuating that his trophies don’t count because PSG dominate the league, how exactly does that differ with Zizou? Finally all I said was tactical edge over Zizou, literally nothing about trophies. But then I’m not surprised this guy is only able to link ‘tactics’ with ‘trophies but they don’t count if it’s PSG’, I think my 5 year old cousin would have better critical thinking than that.
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the point is that Tuchel has at no point shown that he is technically superior to Zidane.
and you ask how tuchel's dominance is different to Zidanes... i think there is a big difference between coming up against Lyon and Marseille compared to Barcelona and the likes of Atletico.
add to the fact that zidane has won 3 champions leagues on the bounce and this would suggest that Tuchel is tactically superior is a bit moronic.
maybe you should sit down with that spawn of yours and let him try and explain
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You really struggle with comprehension don’t you? Perhaps in your world a cousin is the same thing as your spawn but not for me.
All I said was I believe Tuchel has the tactical edge. I didn’t say Zidane was bad tactically. I didn’t say he hasn’t achieved great things as a manager. If all you can reply is the trophy count you’ve completely missed the point. If I want to compare managers tactically obviously I’m not doing to d that by going onto Wikipedia and comparing how many trophies they’ve won. You’re a very simple man, aren’t you?
posted on 16/4/21
I think it’ll be tough due to your lack of firepower, and there’s a lack of experience in the team for games of this magnitude.
That said, Madrid are out of their feet - and have a ridiculous injury record this season, so may flounder given their schedule. And there’s a hell of a lot of pressure on City and PSG to win if you were to get to the final.
Barring that mare against West Brom, you’ve been really solid since Tuchel came in. And he’s got a reputation for being tactically spot on in big games. So there’s still a decent chance, especially if you play without pressure as it’s all on your opponents.
posted on 16/4/21
Tuchel’s a tactically more sophisticated manager than Zidane (who does get underrated in that regard).
Trophies aren’t really an indication of tactical acumen. Fergie is the most successful manager ever, and wasn’t the best tactician (though like Zidane I think he was underrated in that regard as well).
posted on 16/4/21
I don't think you will, but you do look solid in defence so you have a decent chance against all 3 teams.
posted on 16/4/21
We shouldn't be winning it and I don't think we will win it this season. Could get to the final though.
posted on 16/4/21
comment by Rachel The Queen Riley (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 52 minutes ago
I think it’ll be tough due to your lack of firepower, and there’s a lack of experience in the team for games of this magnitude.
That said, Madrid are out of their feet - and have a ridiculous injury record this season, so may flounder given their schedule. And there’s a hell of a lot of pressure on City and PSG to win if you were to get to the final.
Barring that mare against West Brom, you’ve been really solid since Tuchel came in. And he’s got a reputation for being tactically spot on in big games. So there’s still a decent chance, especially if you play without pressure as it’s all on your opponents.
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Agree with all your points as to why we won't win the CL, but I do think we can get past Madrid. PSG or City i don't think so.
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