They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 9 seconds ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
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Good one
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
“ the ESL is purely based on greed, Neville is right, it has nothing to do with sport reasons, it is money reasons. The big teams in Europe demand fixed spots in the CL. Why? It is based on performance, the problem is, if they should not qualify for the CL they get in trouble. But that means your set up of the club is wrong. Any club should be able to be sustainable without CL money. They cant risk not being in the CL, so they want to have a guaranteed income of that kind of money, hence they set up the ESL. ”
This is an important point because I feel like those playing Devil’s advocate either don’t quite comprehend or don’t care. Yes, we know money talks in football already. You’ll be unlikely to find any enterprise where money doesn’t talk. What’s different and unprecedented here is the absolute lack of respect to the fans, to the sport, to competitiveness, it is ALL about money.
I’m often pretty relaxed about changes in football but for me it’s an abhorrent decision this. Sadly I can only object mainly from a ‘philosophical’ stand point as the decision is based solely on money, and that counts for very little to the clubs.
I would send all six clubs to league two or conference
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It won't happen
Plus, should they be allowed to stay in the PL, what incentive will the big six have to win it or finish in the top four? None - not even money!
Which means they will play their second teams in the PL and save their “stars” for the ESL games - effectively making a mockery of the PL.
This has to be stopped but if it goes ahead then these teams have to be sanctioned. Kick them out of every competition we can and treat them like the lepers they deserve.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 minutes ago
I would send all six clubs to league two or conference
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I'm sure either league would be happy to have them.
They would then be sharing in a TV rights deal, that would make the prem reduced deal, look like the SPL.
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It won't happen
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Are you happy with Liverpool pulling out of the CL?
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It won't happen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you happy with Liverpool pulling out of the CL?
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He wants his cake of the super league and to stay in the prem as well.
Liverpool might consider themselves one of the biggest teams in the world but if this starts and FFP ends Man City can spend what they want you will be also rans as well.
Be interesting what Klopp thinks about this..
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It won't happen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you happy with Liverpool pulling out of the CL?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no not really
Let see what happens, a lot of emotive rubbish flying about at the moment.
The picture will become clearer over the next few months.
It seems that the whole world bar the 12 'founders' are vehemently against this plan which is not an auspicious start.
It would be interesting to know who the other 3 teams mentioned are - they've not crawled out of the woodwork as yet.
It would also be interesting to know what sanctions might apply to out 'big six' 😂 for breaking the Premier league rule about not entering unauthorised competitions.
Finally, this concept needs a broadcaster. Will it be a new concern or one of the established giants? I might expect the likes of BT, Sky, Amazon etc to lose a lot of existing contracts if they got involved.
Eject the big six from the EPL? The relegated teams get to stay, 4 come up from the Championship and the EPL reduces to 18 teams to avoid the fixture congestion that the big six are always complaining about. Oh, wait a minute....
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posted on 19/4/21
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 9 seconds ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good one
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
posted on 19/4/21
“ the ESL is purely based on greed, Neville is right, it has nothing to do with sport reasons, it is money reasons. The big teams in Europe demand fixed spots in the CL. Why? It is based on performance, the problem is, if they should not qualify for the CL they get in trouble. But that means your set up of the club is wrong. Any club should be able to be sustainable without CL money. They cant risk not being in the CL, so they want to have a guaranteed income of that kind of money, hence they set up the ESL. ”
This is an important point because I feel like those playing Devil’s advocate either don’t quite comprehend or don’t care. Yes, we know money talks in football already. You’ll be unlikely to find any enterprise where money doesn’t talk. What’s different and unprecedented here is the absolute lack of respect to the fans, to the sport, to competitiveness, it is ALL about money.
I’m often pretty relaxed about changes in football but for me it’s an abhorrent decision this. Sadly I can only object mainly from a ‘philosophical’ stand point as the decision is based solely on money, and that counts for very little to the clubs.
posted on 19/4/21
I would send all six clubs to league two or conference
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It won't happen
posted on 19/4/21
Plus, should they be allowed to stay in the PL, what incentive will the big six have to win it or finish in the top four? None - not even money!
Which means they will play their second teams in the PL and save their “stars” for the ESL games - effectively making a mockery of the PL.
This has to be stopped but if it goes ahead then these teams have to be sanctioned. Kick them out of every competition we can and treat them like the lepers they deserve.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 minutes ago
I would send all six clubs to league two or conference
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sure either league would be happy to have them.
They would then be sharing in a TV rights deal, that would make the prem reduced deal, look like the SPL.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It won't happen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you happy with Liverpool pulling out of the CL?
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It won't happen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you happy with Liverpool pulling out of the CL?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He wants his cake of the super league and to stay in the prem as well.
Liverpool might consider themselves one of the biggest teams in the world but if this starts and FFP ends Man City can spend what they want you will be also rans as well.
Be interesting what Klopp thinks about this..
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks, the gyms are open. (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 6 minutes ago
They need to chuck them out of the league and then tell the league and tell the players they won’t be picked for country.
What people are forgetting is this is still down to the players, people talk about the size of the clubs but if players don’t play for them then the existing leagues quality will be the same and no one will watch the super league..
Problem is the players follow money.. will Kane want to play for Tottenham when they are bottom of the super league and he can’t play for England?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries won't ban players who play for these clubs
Are you crazy, you think FIFA will want the best players not playing at the world cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To keep their superstars New Zealand refused to pick players that moved away from the super rugby and players stayed because of the pride they had for their country. Might not work with football though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It won't happen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you happy with Liverpool pulling out of the CL?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no not really
Let see what happens, a lot of emotive rubbish flying about at the moment.
The picture will become clearer over the next few months.
posted on 19/4/21
It seems that the whole world bar the 12 'founders' are vehemently against this plan which is not an auspicious start.
It would be interesting to know who the other 3 teams mentioned are - they've not crawled out of the woodwork as yet.
It would also be interesting to know what sanctions might apply to out 'big six' 😂 for breaking the Premier league rule about not entering unauthorised competitions.
Finally, this concept needs a broadcaster. Will it be a new concern or one of the established giants? I might expect the likes of BT, Sky, Amazon etc to lose a lot of existing contracts if they got involved.
Eject the big six from the EPL? The relegated teams get to stay, 4 come up from the Championship and the EPL reduces to 18 teams to avoid the fixture congestion that the big six are always complaining about. Oh, wait a minute....
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