Well I was wondering how he was planning to address the issue of adding more matches to a schedule that managers are already unhappy with.
Yes. Four 15 minute quarters with more adverts and maybe singing on the pitch?
Cheerleaders in skimpy outfits?
Didn't the Americans want bigger goals not so long ago? More goals the better obviously!
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes. Four 15 minute quarters with more adverts and maybe singing on the pitch?
Cheerleaders in skimpy outfits?
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It sure does seem like its heading that way. Football kits covered in multiple sponsors too.
60 minutes of actual football, I.E. the clock only runs when the ball is on the pitch is actually a good idea. Stop some of these teams that specialise in time wasting, which is the biggest cheat of the fans
He'll compromise by allowing an advertising break after 22 minutes.
People really need to learn how to read and comprehend.
In the average football match using the current rules, the ball is only in play on average 50mins per game.
They are actually proposing 30mins a half of actual football excluding all stoppages.
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
People really need to learn how to read and comprehend.
In the average football match using the current rules, the ball is only in play on average 50mins per game.
They are actually proposing 30mins a half of actual football excluding all stoppages.
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Exactly, so more football for the fans. Or we can watch about 12 mins of actual football in a Burnley vs Palace game
Adele sing the UK anthem at half time
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 ... (U2720)
posted 29 minutes ago
People really need to learn how to read and comprehend.
In the average football match using the current rules, the ball is only in play on average 50mins per game.
They are actually proposing 30mins a half of actual football excluding all stoppages.
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I thought the average was 60 Mins per game?
Personally, I like stoppage time as it is, as it adds an element of excitement at the end of games which are tight. You can counter that with time wasting, etc, but imaging you have to stop when the time is up? When few seconds left on the clock most teams if leading or happy with the draw will waste the time anyway. The losing team might play with a bit more emergency but let's say their keeper has it and there is 5 seconds left? They'll have to start going long ball then.
comment by Striketeam7 - supporter of the ESL (U18109)
posted 43 minutes ago
60 minutes of actual football, I.E. the clock only runs when the ball is on the pitch is actually a good idea. Stop some of these teams that specialise in time wasting, which is the biggest cheat of the fans
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this
Did he actually say that or is this anti ESL propaganda?
I thought all he said was that games need to be shorter.
, with no further context. The plans about only timing the ball in play for 60min and then adding on all time when ball is out of play is not to do with ESL or Perez’s comments as far as I’m aware / that we know if. That was part of plans/recommendations to look at for the game released by some other football authority like two years ago
Florentino Perez to El Chiringuito: "If young people find football matches too long it may be because they are not interesting enough... or maybe we might have to make the football matches shorter". 🚨
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 56 seconds ago
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
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the old knows a thing or two
T20 is played alongside tests, first class and ODI's. How can the ESL do so?
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 38 seconds ago
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
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I thought about this comparison too but I dont think football is in the same situation as cricket was. Football is popular enough to be sustainable without the ESL
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 ... (U2720)
posted 29 minutes ago
People really need to learn how to read and comprehend.
In the average football match using the current rules, the ball is only in play on average 50mins per game.
They are actually proposing 30mins a half of actual football excluding all stoppages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought the average was 60 Mins per game?
Personally, I like stoppage time as it is, as it adds an element of excitement at the end of games which are tight. You can counter that with time wasting, etc, but imaging you have to stop when the time is up? When few seconds left on the clock most teams if leading or happy with the draw will waste the time anyway. The losing team might play with a bit more emergency but let's say their keeper has it and there is 5 seconds left? They'll have to start going long ball then.
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Couple years ago when Ajax played Barca in the group stages they set a record for the ball being in play for 40mins of the first half.
Truth is it varies every time you look it up.
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 38 seconds ago
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought about this comparison too but I dont think football is in the same situation as cricket was. Football is popular enough to be sustainable without the ESL
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Wasn't that long ago when boxing fans used to make fun of MMA.
Pretty much everyone I know under 25 is an MMA fan now. All the teenagers (even the girls) want to join a programme.
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 38 seconds ago
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought about this comparison too but I dont think football is in the same situation as cricket was. Football is popular enough to be sustainable without the ESL
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Those owners don't want sustainable, they want to make as much profit as possible and if they don't see enough £££'s coming in, we end up with ideas like the ESL..
I’d be interested to see what evidence, if any, there is of younger football fans not being interested in football or that football is at risk of declining in popularity. I have not seen any yet even from those defending Perez’s comments and anecdotally haven’t although that doesn’t count for much.
I agree with the view that there IS no evidence that interest in football is waning, it’s a moot point. What Perez may actually mean is that younger fans are not investing as much into the team, merchandise, viewing as younger fans did 20-30 years ago. But obviously that can’t be used as proxy for interest in football with so many wider parameters affecting that .
a generation of youngsters are emerging who have the attention span of goldfish..the tik tok gen
they have no appetite to sit down and watch 90mins of footy, when half the time the ball is out of play or a team is wasting time...that's what uncle floren means
good to see the BBC doing its usual self-righteous moralising about preserving the game, though they have taken a very different approach with cricket, where the hundred - specifically designed to create new fans, rather than appeal to the legacy ones - has created a shorter version of the game, one that will slot nicely into the beeb's schedules.
in a way the hundred is the opposite of the ESL, it's a central power grab at the expense of the counties, whereas the ESL is the clubs trying to take power back from UEFA (and national associations). and all the fan complaints about how they don't care about regional franchises, why am i travelling to bristol to see a load of players i don't know etc, have been completely ignored.
If you reduce the game to 60mins then stop the clock when the ball goes out of play.
You'd end up with roughly same amount of play time as you have now.
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posted on 20/4/21
Well I was wondering how he was planning to address the issue of adding more matches to a schedule that managers are already unhappy with.
posted on 20/4/21
Yes. Four 15 minute quarters with more adverts and maybe singing on the pitch?
Cheerleaders in skimpy outfits?
posted on 20/4/21
Didn't the Americans want bigger goals not so long ago? More goals the better obviously!
posted on 20/4/21
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes. Four 15 minute quarters with more adverts and maybe singing on the pitch?
Cheerleaders in skimpy outfits?
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It sure does seem like its heading that way. Football kits covered in multiple sponsors too.
posted on 20/4/21
60 minutes of actual football, I.E. the clock only runs when the ball is on the pitch is actually a good idea. Stop some of these teams that specialise in time wasting, which is the biggest cheat of the fans
posted on 20/4/21
He'll compromise by allowing an advertising break after 22 minutes.
posted on 20/4/21
People really need to learn how to read and comprehend.
In the average football match using the current rules, the ball is only in play on average 50mins per game.
They are actually proposing 30mins a half of actual football excluding all stoppages.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 5 minutes ago
People really need to learn how to read and comprehend.
In the average football match using the current rules, the ball is only in play on average 50mins per game.
They are actually proposing 30mins a half of actual football excluding all stoppages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, so more football for the fans. Or we can watch about 12 mins of actual football in a Burnley vs Palace game
posted on 20/4/21
Adele sing the UK anthem at half time
posted on 20/4/21
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 ... (U2720)
posted 29 minutes ago
People really need to learn how to read and comprehend.
In the average football match using the current rules, the ball is only in play on average 50mins per game.
They are actually proposing 30mins a half of actual football excluding all stoppages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought the average was 60 Mins per game?
Personally, I like stoppage time as it is, as it adds an element of excitement at the end of games which are tight. You can counter that with time wasting, etc, but imaging you have to stop when the time is up? When few seconds left on the clock most teams if leading or happy with the draw will waste the time anyway. The losing team might play with a bit more emergency but let's say their keeper has it and there is 5 seconds left? They'll have to start going long ball then.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Striketeam7 - supporter of the ESL (U18109)
posted 43 minutes ago
60 minutes of actual football, I.E. the clock only runs when the ball is on the pitch is actually a good idea. Stop some of these teams that specialise in time wasting, which is the biggest cheat of the fans
----------------------------------------------------------------------
this
posted on 20/4/21
Did he actually say that or is this anti ESL propaganda?
posted on 20/4/21
I thought all he said was that games need to be shorter.
, with no further context. The plans about only timing the ball in play for 60min and then adding on all time when ball is out of play is not to do with ESL or Perez’s comments as far as I’m aware / that we know if. That was part of plans/recommendations to look at for the game released by some other football authority like two years ago
posted on 20/4/21
Florentino Perez to El Chiringuito: "If young people find football matches too long it may be because they are not interesting enough... or maybe we might have to make the football matches shorter". 🚨
posted on 20/4/21
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 56 seconds ago
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the old knows a thing or two
posted on 20/4/21
T20 is played alongside tests, first class and ODI's. How can the ESL do so?
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 38 seconds ago
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought about this comparison too but I dont think football is in the same situation as cricket was. Football is popular enough to be sustainable without the ESL
posted on 20/4/21
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 ... (U2720)
posted 29 minutes ago
People really need to learn how to read and comprehend.
In the average football match using the current rules, the ball is only in play on average 50mins per game.
They are actually proposing 30mins a half of actual football excluding all stoppages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought the average was 60 Mins per game?
Personally, I like stoppage time as it is, as it adds an element of excitement at the end of games which are tight. You can counter that with time wasting, etc, but imaging you have to stop when the time is up? When few seconds left on the clock most teams if leading or happy with the draw will waste the time anyway. The losing team might play with a bit more emergency but let's say their keeper has it and there is 5 seconds left? They'll have to start going long ball then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Couple years ago when Ajax played Barca in the group stages they set a record for the ball being in play for 40mins of the first half.
Truth is it varies every time you look it up.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 38 seconds ago
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought about this comparison too but I dont think football is in the same situation as cricket was. Football is popular enough to be sustainable without the ESL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wasn't that long ago when boxing fans used to make fun of MMA.
Pretty much everyone I know under 25 is an MMA fan now. All the teenagers (even the girls) want to join a programme.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 38 seconds ago
I feel dirty saying this, but Twenty20 cricket has pretty much saved the sport. Both as a spectacle and as a business.
On one hand, it has kept the door open for a younger audience. And on the other, the anoraks get to enjoy their 5 day Test matches in peace.
Old Uncle Florentino has spent some time on Tiktok and seen the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought about this comparison too but I dont think football is in the same situation as cricket was. Football is popular enough to be sustainable without the ESL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those owners don't want sustainable, they want to make as much profit as possible and if they don't see enough £££'s coming in, we end up with ideas like the ESL..
posted on 20/4/21
I’d be interested to see what evidence, if any, there is of younger football fans not being interested in football or that football is at risk of declining in popularity. I have not seen any yet even from those defending Perez’s comments and anecdotally haven’t although that doesn’t count for much.
I agree with the view that there IS no evidence that interest in football is waning, it’s a moot point. What Perez may actually mean is that younger fans are not investing as much into the team, merchandise, viewing as younger fans did 20-30 years ago. But obviously that can’t be used as proxy for interest in football with so many wider parameters affecting that .
posted on 20/4/21
a generation of youngsters are emerging who have the attention span of goldfish..the tik tok gen
they have no appetite to sit down and watch 90mins of footy, when half the time the ball is out of play or a team is wasting time...that's what uncle floren means
posted on 20/4/21
good to see the BBC doing its usual self-righteous moralising about preserving the game, though they have taken a very different approach with cricket, where the hundred - specifically designed to create new fans, rather than appeal to the legacy ones - has created a shorter version of the game, one that will slot nicely into the beeb's schedules.
in a way the hundred is the opposite of the ESL, it's a central power grab at the expense of the counties, whereas the ESL is the clubs trying to take power back from UEFA (and national associations). and all the fan complaints about how they don't care about regional franchises, why am i travelling to bristol to see a load of players i don't know etc, have been completely ignored.
posted on 20/4/21
If you reduce the game to 60mins then stop the clock when the ball goes out of play.
You'd end up with roughly same amount of play time as you have now.
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