Carragher is right about Spurs here, but the bloke is a grade A mug, and lucky to still be in a job at Skyte Sports.
In what walk of life is spitting into the face of a 14 year old girl acceptable, it seems it is, if you are former player of one of your employers favourite clubs.
Carragher is still in a job purely because of his affinity with Liverpool FC, he got the job initially because of that fact, and was kept in the job because of that also.
Skyte Sports are not stupid, they want subscribers, so who better to give their two main pundit jobs to, than former players of the two best supported clubs. This maximizes revenue as more people will be inclined to subscribe, and gleefully lap up their biased drivel.
The double standards at Sky is clear for all to see, they have sacked others for far less than what Carragher was let off with, but it appears that Carragher got away with murder on the pitch, and now gets away with murder off the pitch also.
I don`t like listening to the agenda driven Carragher or Neville, and they should really be replaced with a couple of unbiased pundits, but they won`t be, Sky just want to feed the appetites of the pathetic masses.
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There does seem to be a very unhealthy media bashing of Spurs. Like they are there to be kicked at will. Hardly a peep from the media about how rubbish Liverpool Liverpool have been this season.
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Still champions though sandy all be it awful season, but I expect us to be better next season and you guys should be optimistic for next season too , it’s what fans do
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"Expect" you to be better?
Liverpool fans have been saying this since they debacle started early this year, and their home "fortress" image got shattered to bit, that's all the Liverpool fans have been saying. "We expect to mount a title challenge", some of the other posters also saying they "expect" normal service to resume, and yet where is that "expected" title challenge then?
There is nothing "expected" in this league, other than City are going to be one of the contenders for the title again next season.
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When you've won the Prem and CL in the last 3 seasons, you tend to get cut a little more slack.
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Yup, those doping cycles tough to manage
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Spurs doping cycle has lasted near on 30 years.
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Carragher's 'role' in punditry is to be permanently angry and as stereotypical scouse as possible. He looks and sounds like an alky half the time.
However, the idea that the media are somehow picking on Spurs is wide of the mark. Spurs have dragged themselves recently into the 'Big 6' through mainly Poch's strong side of a few years ago, the stadium move and now the inclusion in the disbanded ESL. Therefore pundits, fans and the media have started to judge them more harshly and similarly to when Arsenal went 9 years without a trophy (2006-2014) you can no longer expect any patience when you have a poor season. You wanted to be part of the big boys and now you are then you have to accept that you'll be judged differently to the likes of say Everton, West Ham and Newcastle. It goes with the territory I'm afraid.
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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Good post Devonshire.
I really fail to see how any pundit can have a pop at Spurs, where they have been the one club, other than the financially doped clubs like City and Chelsea to at least get in the mixing of breaking up the cartel of United, Liverpool and Arsenal of the past 30 years or so. Where are all the other so called lesser clubs that have done what Spurs have done last decade. Leicester won the Prem, and may finish top four this season. But that is about it. They have had more lean years than good years, but get praised to high heavens. All Spurs do is get constantly slated, even though they are still in contention for Top Four, made a domestic final. Yet you get clowns like Neville, Keane and Souness get free reign to ridicule the club at every opportunity.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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for the money theyve spent on transfers and wages Everton have been terrible. Ancelotti is way past his best and enjoying a nice pension top up from the clueless owner.
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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Good post Devonshire.
I really fail to see how any pundit can have a pop at Spurs, where they have been the one club, other than the financially doped clubs like City and Chelsea to at least get in the mixing of breaking up the cartel of United, Liverpool and Arsenal of the past 30 years or so. Where are all the other so called lesser clubs that have done what Spurs have done last decade. Leicester won the Prem, and may finish top four this season. But that is about it. They have had more lean years than good years, but get praised to high heavens. All Spurs do is get constantly slated, even though they are still in contention for Top Four, made a domestic final. Yet you get clowns like Neville, Keane and Souness get free reign to ridicule the club at every opportunity.
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I echo these sentiments. I don't think it's the media as per se, but the media we use Sky and BT to watch the games are surrounded by ex-players, who are from one of the other clubs, which basically always as a club tried to reduce Spurs to the notion that it is a small club, because their managers instil into them that kind of condescending thoughts.
Certain ex-players also, want to be controversial and will say anything to be so. Be relevant, by slating Spurs.
However, overall, it's Levy who has given those village idlots the ammo to derided us.
Why sack a manager who has brought so much to the club, and after totally not backing that manager? That's laughable at any time. Why sack the new manager at the helm for only 17 months, when Spurs need a rebuild and Spurs don't do a Chelsea or City, who go out and spend outrageous money in securing players when their team needs to rebuild?
Don't give the opponent ammo if you don't want be shot at?
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Spurs get ridiculed alot because I think the pundits you mentioned actually like us and want us to do well.
So when they constantly fail, it's a case of "they have let me let down again, feck em, I'm going in on them"
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 47 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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Superb post. ππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌ
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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it is true though
whoever is in charge next has a job on their hands
the players are losers
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And the ludicrous amount of money spent on players like Pepe, and yet still languishing in the bottom half of the league.
Winning FA Cup isn't any indication of being a good side. A league position is.
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 17 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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I agree with this. How Everton have got away with it, I'm not sure. The money they have spent recently is outrageous and surely questions should be asked of why they're not pushing for more.
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That just comes down to Everton not being one of the big clubs and therefore not receiving the same attention that a club like Spurs get. The media will, rightly or wrongly, gravitate to the big clubs and give them press. Everton have been a mid-table club for the majority of the last 20 years living in the shadow of the bigger clubs. I'm not trying to be disrespectful I'm just saying that's why they don't garner the same criticism. They simply aren't as big a story.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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Look at it this way. The more pundits talk about us the better. It puts more pressure on Levy to deliver whilst the Arsenal and Everton chairman are given a free ride and allow the rot to settle. Arteta should have been gone months back but the longer he is there the better. Same goes for Neverton. Let them go under the radar. Hopefully they will continue to spend inflated prices for players. I just hope they buy some of our deadwood for £5m-£10m more than they should.
Bottom line is the more the media spout sheet about us the better. It puts the microscope in Levy even more.
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And the ludicrous amount of money spent on players like Pepe, and yet still languishing in the bottom half of the league.
Winning FA Cup isn't any indication of being a good side. A league position is.
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Your the ones begging for the media to lay off Spurs. We deserve the criticism we get, as do Spurs. Those of you that are moaning are just too thin skinned to handle an accurate critique of your club.
Maybe those of you should go to an all Spurs forum and watch nothing but Tottenham's exclusive tv channel if they have one, and pretend that Spurs are the greatest club in the world.
I too, despite hiring the most talked about manager in the world, also feel a victim about the media portrayal of Spurs.
How DARE they talk about my club in a similar comparison to how they do other bigger clubs when they are underperforming heavily.
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 17 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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I agree with this. How Everton have got away with it, I'm not sure. The money they have spent recently is outrageous and surely questions should be asked of why they're not pushing for more.
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That just comes down to Everton not being one of the big clubs and therefore not receiving the same attention that a club like Spurs get. The media will, rightly or wrongly, gravitate to the big clubs and give them press. Everton have been a mid-table club for the majority of the last 20 years living in the shadow of the bigger clubs. I'm not trying to be disrespectful I'm just saying that's why they don't garner the same criticism. They simply aren't as big a story.
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I do, partly agree with this, although the one thing they are never called out on is winning cups, as Spurs are constantly. Their last one was in 1996, TWELVE years longer than Spurs. Yet we hear nothing. No challenge whatsoever.
That said, the main point you are making does not ring true. There are two other clubs that are "big" clubs, that are getting away scott free with their current positions by the media. Arsenal ( obviously ) and Liverpool.
Both have had really poor seasons, and both are considered big clubs with transfer spend and wages spend to prove it.
Yet they both get a free ride. I can understand with Liverpool, as half the pundits are ex players, with the other half their mates. But Arsenal have fallen so far in recent years and are currently 10th, and still living off one FA Cup win. Yet, apart from a bit of minor flack after each defeat, they are left alone. Spurs on the other hand get negative articles all the time from all and sundry, even when they aren't playing.
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And the ludicrous amount of money spent on players like Pepe, and yet still languishing in the bottom half of the league.
Winning FA Cup isn't any indication of being a good side. A league position is.
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Your the ones begging for the media to lay off Spurs. We deserve the criticism we get, as do Spurs. Those of you that are moaning are just too thin skinned to handle an accurate critique of your club.
Maybe those of you should go to an all Spurs forum and watch nothing but Tottenham's exclusive tv channel if they have one, and pretend that Spurs are the greatest club in the world.
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Mate, you are missing the point of this discussion. You may think Arsenal deserve criticism, but that's the point, they don't get it from the media. Given their league position and the mess with your owners, the media should be posting something negative every day, like they do with Spurs. But your club is generally left alone.
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And the ludicrous amount of money spent on players like Pepe, and yet still languishing in the bottom half of the league.
Winning FA Cup isn't any indication of being a good side. A league position is.
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Your the ones begging for the media to lay off Spurs. We deserve the criticism we get, as do Spurs. Those of you that are moaning are just too thin skinned to handle an accurate critique of your club.
Maybe those of you should go to an all Spurs forum and watch nothing but Tottenham's exclusive tv channel if they have one, and pretend that Spurs are the greatest club in the world.
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Mate, you are missing the point of this discussion. You may think Arsenal deserve criticism, but that's the point, they don't get it from the media. Given their league position and the mess with your owners, the media should be posting something negative every day, like they do with Spurs. But your club is generally left alone.
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Media maybe think Arsenal aren’t worth writing about anymore?
They are turning into a relegation team every season.
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And what about being in Europe for 26 years running..........but never actually winning anything in each of those years. Suppose unfair to talk negatively about that that eh ?
Still you did won the FA Cup last year, so all is well and you remain untouchable for about another 10 years.
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And what about being in Europe for 26 years running..........but never actually winning anything in each of those years. Suppose unfair to talk negatively about that that eh ?
Still you did won the FA Cup last year, so all is well and you remain untouchable for about another 10 years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------Oh Sandy you're so pathetic, we'd all give our left nut to have had the success Arsenal have had recently ie the numerous FA cups.
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posted on 28/4/21
Carragher is right about Spurs here, but the bloke is a grade A mug, and lucky to still be in a job at Skyte Sports.
In what walk of life is spitting into the face of a 14 year old girl acceptable, it seems it is, if you are former player of one of your employers favourite clubs.
Carragher is still in a job purely because of his affinity with Liverpool FC, he got the job initially because of that fact, and was kept in the job because of that also.
Skyte Sports are not stupid, they want subscribers, so who better to give their two main pundit jobs to, than former players of the two best supported clubs. This maximizes revenue as more people will be inclined to subscribe, and gleefully lap up their biased drivel.
The double standards at Sky is clear for all to see, they have sacked others for far less than what Carragher was let off with, but it appears that Carragher got away with murder on the pitch, and now gets away with murder off the pitch also.
I don`t like listening to the agenda driven Carragher or Neville, and they should really be replaced with a couple of unbiased pundits, but they won`t be, Sky just want to feed the appetites of the pathetic masses.
posted on 28/4/21
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There does seem to be a very unhealthy media bashing of Spurs. Like they are there to be kicked at will. Hardly a peep from the media about how rubbish Liverpool Liverpool have been this season.
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Still champions though sandy all be it awful season, but I expect us to be better next season and you guys should be optimistic for next season too , it’s what fans do
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"Expect" you to be better?
Liverpool fans have been saying this since they debacle started early this year, and their home "fortress" image got shattered to bit, that's all the Liverpool fans have been saying. "We expect to mount a title challenge", some of the other posters also saying they "expect" normal service to resume, and yet where is that "expected" title challenge then?
There is nothing "expected" in this league, other than City are going to be one of the contenders for the title again next season.
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When you've won the Prem and CL in the last 3 seasons, you tend to get cut a little more slack.
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Yup, those doping cycles tough to manage
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Spurs doping cycle has lasted near on 30 years.
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posted on 28/4/21
Carragher's 'role' in punditry is to be permanently angry and as stereotypical scouse as possible. He looks and sounds like an alky half the time.
However, the idea that the media are somehow picking on Spurs is wide of the mark. Spurs have dragged themselves recently into the 'Big 6' through mainly Poch's strong side of a few years ago, the stadium move and now the inclusion in the disbanded ESL. Therefore pundits, fans and the media have started to judge them more harshly and similarly to when Arsenal went 9 years without a trophy (2006-2014) you can no longer expect any patience when you have a poor season. You wanted to be part of the big boys and now you are then you have to accept that you'll be judged differently to the likes of say Everton, West Ham and Newcastle. It goes with the territory I'm afraid.
posted on 28/4/21
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
posted on 28/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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Good post Devonshire.
I really fail to see how any pundit can have a pop at Spurs, where they have been the one club, other than the financially doped clubs like City and Chelsea to at least get in the mixing of breaking up the cartel of United, Liverpool and Arsenal of the past 30 years or so. Where are all the other so called lesser clubs that have done what Spurs have done last decade. Leicester won the Prem, and may finish top four this season. But that is about it. They have had more lean years than good years, but get praised to high heavens. All Spurs do is get constantly slated, even though they are still in contention for Top Four, made a domestic final. Yet you get clowns like Neville, Keane and Souness get free reign to ridicule the club at every opportunity.
posted on 28/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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for the money theyve spent on transfers and wages Everton have been terrible. Ancelotti is way past his best and enjoying a nice pension top up from the clueless owner.
posted on 28/4/21
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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Good post Devonshire.
I really fail to see how any pundit can have a pop at Spurs, where they have been the one club, other than the financially doped clubs like City and Chelsea to at least get in the mixing of breaking up the cartel of United, Liverpool and Arsenal of the past 30 years or so. Where are all the other so called lesser clubs that have done what Spurs have done last decade. Leicester won the Prem, and may finish top four this season. But that is about it. They have had more lean years than good years, but get praised to high heavens. All Spurs do is get constantly slated, even though they are still in contention for Top Four, made a domestic final. Yet you get clowns like Neville, Keane and Souness get free reign to ridicule the club at every opportunity.
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I echo these sentiments. I don't think it's the media as per se, but the media we use Sky and BT to watch the games are surrounded by ex-players, who are from one of the other clubs, which basically always as a club tried to reduce Spurs to the notion that it is a small club, because their managers instil into them that kind of condescending thoughts.
Certain ex-players also, want to be controversial and will say anything to be so. Be relevant, by slating Spurs.
However, overall, it's Levy who has given those village idlots the ammo to derided us.
Why sack a manager who has brought so much to the club, and after totally not backing that manager? That's laughable at any time. Why sack the new manager at the helm for only 17 months, when Spurs need a rebuild and Spurs don't do a Chelsea or City, who go out and spend outrageous money in securing players when their team needs to rebuild?
Don't give the opponent ammo if you don't want be shot at?
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posted on 28/4/21
Spurs get ridiculed alot because I think the pundits you mentioned actually like us and want us to do well.
So when they constantly fail, it's a case of "they have let me let down again, feck em, I'm going in on them"
posted on 28/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 47 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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posted on 28/4/21
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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posted on 28/4/21
it is true though
whoever is in charge next has a job on their hands
the players are losers
posted on 28/4/21
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
posted on 28/4/21
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
posted on 28/4/21
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And the ludicrous amount of money spent on players like Pepe, and yet still languishing in the bottom half of the league.
Winning FA Cup isn't any indication of being a good side. A league position is.
posted on 28/4/21
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 17 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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I agree with this. How Everton have got away with it, I'm not sure. The money they have spent recently is outrageous and surely questions should be asked of why they're not pushing for more.
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That just comes down to Everton not being one of the big clubs and therefore not receiving the same attention that a club like Spurs get. The media will, rightly or wrongly, gravitate to the big clubs and give them press. Everton have been a mid-table club for the majority of the last 20 years living in the shadow of the bigger clubs. I'm not trying to be disrespectful I'm just saying that's why they don't garner the same criticism. They simply aren't as big a story.
posted on 28/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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Look at it this way. The more pundits talk about us the better. It puts more pressure on Levy to deliver whilst the Arsenal and Everton chairman are given a free ride and allow the rot to settle. Arteta should have been gone months back but the longer he is there the better. Same goes for Neverton. Let them go under the radar. Hopefully they will continue to spend inflated prices for players. I just hope they buy some of our deadwood for £5m-£10m more than they should.
Bottom line is the more the media spout sheet about us the better. It puts the microscope in Levy even more.
posted on 28/4/21
On Levy*
posted on 28/4/21
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posted 2 minutes ago
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 11 minutes ago
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And the ludicrous amount of money spent on players like Pepe, and yet still languishing in the bottom half of the league.
Winning FA Cup isn't any indication of being a good side. A league position is.
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Your the ones begging for the media to lay off Spurs. We deserve the criticism we get, as do Spurs. Those of you that are moaning are just too thin skinned to handle an accurate critique of your club.
Maybe those of you should go to an all Spurs forum and watch nothing but Tottenham's exclusive tv channel if they have one, and pretend that Spurs are the greatest club in the world.
posted on 28/4/21
I too, despite hiring the most talked about manager in the world, also feel a victim about the media portrayal of Spurs.
How DARE they talk about my club in a similar comparison to how they do other bigger clubs when they are underperforming heavily.
posted on 28/4/21
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posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 17 minutes ago
It is quite notable how much grief Spurs get in the media.
Look at Everton. They have spent over £0.5bn on players since their new owners came in.
What have they achieved. What has the world renowned manager achieved . Have they made it to any finals?
Despite boring Jose, boring the footballing world to death with his boring tactics, Spurs have comfortably outscored Everton and lets face it, we've had a shocker of a season but still sit above them
Where's the character assassination of Everton's manager, their owners, the club?
We get to a final, we lose in difficult circumstances against a team that has won two thirds of every domestic trophy over the last 4 years, having spent billions, and we're slated.
While none of us are happy with it, at least we're getting to finals, but the media and lazy pundits use this as something to beat us with.
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
Spurs make it easy for them to be picked on but actually, Spurs are a very well run club that has made great strides to elevate themselves without the billions of their owners, has built an amazing stadium and dragged themselves up financially to match their London piers.
We should be praised in the media for how we operate and in that it should be acknowledged and put in to context of the massive advantage other clubs have. Instead City are fawned all over by pundits/media for achieving something that any club could have achieved if their billionaire owners had decided to buy them instead of City.
We deserve criticism but it seems to be a favourite hobby for some of these media gobsheites who love the sound of their whiney, barely intelligible voice.
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I agree with this. How Everton have got away with it, I'm not sure. The money they have spent recently is outrageous and surely questions should be asked of why they're not pushing for more.
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That just comes down to Everton not being one of the big clubs and therefore not receiving the same attention that a club like Spurs get. The media will, rightly or wrongly, gravitate to the big clubs and give them press. Everton have been a mid-table club for the majority of the last 20 years living in the shadow of the bigger clubs. I'm not trying to be disrespectful I'm just saying that's why they don't garner the same criticism. They simply aren't as big a story.
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I do, partly agree with this, although the one thing they are never called out on is winning cups, as Spurs are constantly. Their last one was in 1996, TWELVE years longer than Spurs. Yet we hear nothing. No challenge whatsoever.
That said, the main point you are making does not ring true. There are two other clubs that are "big" clubs, that are getting away scott free with their current positions by the media. Arsenal ( obviously ) and Liverpool.
Both have had really poor seasons, and both are considered big clubs with transfer spend and wages spend to prove it.
Yet they both get a free ride. I can understand with Liverpool, as half the pundits are ex players, with the other half their mates. But Arsenal have fallen so far in recent years and are currently 10th, and still living off one FA Cup win. Yet, apart from a bit of minor flack after each defeat, they are left alone. Spurs on the other hand get negative articles all the time from all and sundry, even when they aren't playing.
posted on 28/4/21
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 11 minutes ago
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And the ludicrous amount of money spent on players like Pepe, and yet still languishing in the bottom half of the league.
Winning FA Cup isn't any indication of being a good side. A league position is.
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Your the ones begging for the media to lay off Spurs. We deserve the criticism we get, as do Spurs. Those of you that are moaning are just too thin skinned to handle an accurate critique of your club.
Maybe those of you should go to an all Spurs forum and watch nothing but Tottenham's exclusive tv channel if they have one, and pretend that Spurs are the greatest club in the world.
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Mate, you are missing the point of this discussion. You may think Arsenal deserve criticism, but that's the point, they don't get it from the media. Given their league position and the mess with your owners, the media should be posting something negative every day, like they do with Spurs. But your club is generally left alone.
posted on 28/4/21
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 33 minutes ago
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posted 59 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 11 minutes ago
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And the ludicrous amount of money spent on players like Pepe, and yet still languishing in the bottom half of the league.
Winning FA Cup isn't any indication of being a good side. A league position is.
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Your the ones begging for the media to lay off Spurs. We deserve the criticism we get, as do Spurs. Those of you that are moaning are just too thin skinned to handle an accurate critique of your club.
Maybe those of you should go to an all Spurs forum and watch nothing but Tottenham's exclusive tv channel if they have one, and pretend that Spurs are the greatest club in the world.
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Mate, you are missing the point of this discussion. You may think Arsenal deserve criticism, but that's the point, they don't get it from the media. Given their league position and the mess with your owners, the media should be posting something negative every day, like they do with Spurs. But your club is generally left alone.
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Media maybe think Arsenal aren’t worth writing about anymore?
They are turning into a relegation team every season.
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posted on 28/4/21
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 11 minutes ago
Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And what about being in Europe for 26 years running..........but never actually winning anything in each of those years. Suppose unfair to talk negatively about that that eh ?
Still you did won the FA Cup last year, so all is well and you remain untouchable for about another 10 years.
posted on 28/4/21
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Look at Arteta. They sit below Leeds FFS. They are boring and ineffective and the lowest scorers in the top 11.
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And yet we're still the FA Cup holders. In fact we've won 4 of them in a decade where the media have comparatively lauded Spurs and treated us as a laughing stock.
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Being 10th is the key to Arsenal being a laughing stock.
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And what about being in Europe for 26 years running..........but never actually winning anything in each of those years. Suppose unfair to talk negatively about that that eh ?
Still you did won the FA Cup last year, so all is well and you remain untouchable for about another 10 years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------Oh Sandy you're so pathetic, we'd all give our left nut to have had the success Arsenal have had recently ie the numerous FA cups.
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