United need to win this pot just to claw back some vestage of respect from Europe...no-one expects Arsenal to win it
Mind you...Utd have Spursy previous here...so who knows
I expect Roma or United to win the Europa League
Arsenal have a nasty little habit of saving their season by winning an unlikely trophy at the death.
However its nobodys fault but our own, we might be in a position to stop them if we could of scored 1 goal in over 120 mins of footie in Zagreb.
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 4 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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I still regard you as a big club, despite the lack of trophies won. I also believe that Brendan Rodgers would have been a perfect fit. The fact he prefers his Leicester project to joining you would concern me if I supported Spurs.
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 40 minutes ago
United need to win this pot just to claw back some vestage of respect from Europe...no-one expects Arsenal to win it
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No one expected Arsenal to win the FA Cup last year, but they did. They are a very average side, may not even be that, but they know how to win cup competitions.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 24 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Chelsea and Man City were the best teams left in the FA Cup at last year`s semi-final stage. But Arsenal ended up winning it.
But, but, but Sandy....what happened to the Spurs title win at 50-1?
comment by Sgt Wilko 92 (U5983)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 4 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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I still regard you as a big club, despite the lack of trophies won. I also believe that Brendan Rodgers would have been a perfect fit. The fact he prefers his Leicester project to joining you would concern me if I supported Spurs.
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Yup, Spurs are definitely a big club, historically still one of the best trophy winning sides of all time, still 6th in the list, despite not winning a trophy of note for over 30 years, and would be higher but for the financially doped duo of Chelsea and City boosting their trophy haul since their lottery wins. Just not winning trophies right now though.
I wouldn`t blame Rodgers for not joining Spurs, when he will almost certainly be getting a few games of CL footie with Leicester next season. It`s a no brainer he stays at Leicester.
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 3 minutes ago
But, but, but Sandy....what happened to the Spurs title win at 50-1?
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That quickly fell by the wayside. It was only a bit of fun. And it it come off I would now be sunning myself in the Bahamas or similar.
Unlike ourselves, Arsenal are more than capable of beating a team better than them in a final. They've done it in previous FA Cup finals in the last 5 years.
It's always best to expect the worst with Tottenham, so that will be Arsenal winning the Europa, Chelsea winning the CL, then West Ham finishing third and us finishing 4th, so we're deprived CL footy and all our London rivals get to laugh at us.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
Unlike ourselves, Arsenal are more than capable of beating a team better than them in a final. They've done it in previous FA Cup finals in the last 5 years.
It's always best to expect the worst with Tottenham, so that will be Arsenal winning the Europa, Chelsea winning the CL, then West Ham finishing third and us finishing 4th, so we're deprived CL footy and all our London rivals get to laugh at us.
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You were going along all right, until you said West Ham will finish third and Spurs finish 4th, not a hope in hell of that happening.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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As painful as it is I agree with this. Sometimes when a player outgrows his club it's not good for both parties as one wants to go and the other has to put up with being told they're not good enough for him, which is disruptive and condescending. I'm not saying this is similar by any means but Liverpool sold Coutinho and never looked back.
Rather than picking through the copper jar looking for the rare silvers and golds in our squad, we need a total reset under a new manager. Players with a freshness that aren't scarred by the disappointments of nearly winning the league and CL. Effectively, Ryan Mason is Tim Sherwood. If you look at the team Sherwood had to the squad Poch moulded there was a clear out and large player turnover. Of a squad of 42 only Walker, Rose, Vertonghen, Lamela, Dembele, Eriksen, Lloris and Kane remained part of his plans. That's 8 of 42. Check out the list of names inthat squad...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_Tottenham_Hotspur_F.C._season
We overhauled the squad and rebuilt. The same has to happen now as any new manager coming in will face the same tired faces. Poch had a bunch of new players in his mould to add to the quality we already had, so did Jose. The only way we can do the same for the new manager is to sell Kane. We can't give him the kind of money those two got.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Yeah... I’m afraid all my optimism where Spurs, Levy & Lewis is concerned is all used up..... I hope you’re right & I’m wrong
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.
I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 3 minutes ago
But, but, but Sandy....what happened to the Spurs title win at 50-1?
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That quickly fell by the wayside. It was only a bit of fun. And it it come off I would now be sunning myself in the Bahamas or similar.
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Damn you! I invested into bitcoins and was looking to retire!
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.
I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
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Under normal circumstances, Sandy, you're right but one of City, United or PSG could afford him (he won't consider Chelsea, I hope). Normally Levy would get a sniff a player wants to leave and will keep them on for one more season, like Eriksen, Bale etc. This year is different. If we get a bid in of £150m plus, Levy will deal. We're so short of money right now that it might just save us from a huge financial meltdown. There's a reason why Perez was so desperate to get the ESL off the ground and it's because both Real Madrid and Spurs face a financial crisis the likes of which haven't been seen before at this level owing to the crippling timing of their new stadiums.
Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.
I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
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I like Kane alot and in an ideal world he would stay.
However he is not above criticism because he has not done it when it really matters. Its all very well sticking a couple in against Burnley or Palace at the Lane but he missed 3 good chances in Zagreb.
On our greatest night in recent history he wasn't playing but when we didn't turn up the final he was. He needs to show some self awareness and take his share of the blame for our lack of trophies.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.
I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
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I like Kane alot and in an ideal world he would stay.
However he is not above criticism because he has not done it when it really matters. Its all very well sticking a couple in against Burnley or Palace at the Lane but he missed 3 good chances in Zagreb.
On our greatest night in recent history he wasn't playing but when we didn't turn up the final he was. He needs to show some self awareness and take his share of the blame for our lack of trophies.
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Doing it when it really matters requires the ball. Haaland didn't get a sniff against City with Dortmund for much the same reason. If 10 don't turn up then it's hard for the 11th to do anything. Sunday was absurd. City were that good. Mbappe didn't even get a shot off yesterday apparently. I think Sunday and the CL final (he was just unfit) are unfair criticisms. The other League Cup final we had under Poch, was in 2015 and our team wasn't on par with Chelsea's. We weren't expected to win that one so again he was quiet. Put him in a better team, his numbers will be frightening and quite frankly I won't begrudge him making that next step. He's been as loyal as he can be to us now. I'd hate for him to retire with a bitterness towards the club.
If you hadnt sacked Jose you could have had a trophy by now.
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 11 minutes ago
If you hadnt sacked Jose you could have had a trophy by now.
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Let's see how you get on tonight before you start playing that game fella. We're having an awful season but you're still 3 places below us. Got a feeling this is gonna be one of those be careful what you wish for ties. The sacked manager returns for revenge.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
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Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
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You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.
Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.
City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.
PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.
Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.
Just my POV of course.
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 17 minutes ago
If you hadnt sacked Jose you could have had a trophy by now.
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Jose should have gone after the Zagreb game but having not got rid at that time it was ridiculous to get rid 6 days before a final.
Its as if the powers that be are trying to run the club in the worst way possible to give others a laugh.
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posted on 29/4/21
United need to win this pot just to claw back some vestage of respect from Europe...no-one expects Arsenal to win it
posted on 29/4/21
Mind you...Utd have Spursy previous here...so who knows
posted on 29/4/21
I expect Roma or United to win the Europa League
posted on 29/4/21
Arsenal have a nasty little habit of saving their season by winning an unlikely trophy at the death.
However its nobodys fault but our own, we might be in a position to stop them if we could of scored 1 goal in over 120 mins of footie in Zagreb.
posted on 29/4/21
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 4 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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I still regard you as a big club, despite the lack of trophies won. I also believe that Brendan Rodgers would have been a perfect fit. The fact he prefers his Leicester project to joining you would concern me if I supported Spurs.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 40 minutes ago
United need to win this pot just to claw back some vestage of respect from Europe...no-one expects Arsenal to win it
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No one expected Arsenal to win the FA Cup last year, but they did. They are a very average side, may not even be that, but they know how to win cup competitions.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 24 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Chelsea and Man City were the best teams left in the FA Cup at last year`s semi-final stage. But Arsenal ended up winning it.
posted on 29/4/21
But, but, but Sandy....what happened to the Spurs title win at 50-1?
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Sgt Wilko 92 (U5983)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 4 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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I still regard you as a big club, despite the lack of trophies won. I also believe that Brendan Rodgers would have been a perfect fit. The fact he prefers his Leicester project to joining you would concern me if I supported Spurs.
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Yup, Spurs are definitely a big club, historically still one of the best trophy winning sides of all time, still 6th in the list, despite not winning a trophy of note for over 30 years, and would be higher but for the financially doped duo of Chelsea and City boosting their trophy haul since their lottery wins. Just not winning trophies right now though.
I wouldn`t blame Rodgers for not joining Spurs, when he will almost certainly be getting a few games of CL footie with Leicester next season. It`s a no brainer he stays at Leicester.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 3 minutes ago
But, but, but Sandy....what happened to the Spurs title win at 50-1?
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That quickly fell by the wayside. It was only a bit of fun. And it it come off I would now be sunning myself in the Bahamas or similar.
posted on 29/4/21
Unlike ourselves, Arsenal are more than capable of beating a team better than them in a final. They've done it in previous FA Cup finals in the last 5 years.
It's always best to expect the worst with Tottenham, so that will be Arsenal winning the Europa, Chelsea winning the CL, then West Ham finishing third and us finishing 4th, so we're deprived CL footy and all our London rivals get to laugh at us.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
Unlike ourselves, Arsenal are more than capable of beating a team better than them in a final. They've done it in previous FA Cup finals in the last 5 years.
It's always best to expect the worst with Tottenham, so that will be Arsenal winning the Europa, Chelsea winning the CL, then West Ham finishing third and us finishing 4th, so we're deprived CL footy and all our London rivals get to laugh at us.
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You were going along all right, until you said West Ham will finish third and Spurs finish 4th, not a hope in hell of that happening.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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As painful as it is I agree with this. Sometimes when a player outgrows his club it's not good for both parties as one wants to go and the other has to put up with being told they're not good enough for him, which is disruptive and condescending. I'm not saying this is similar by any means but Liverpool sold Coutinho and never looked back.
Rather than picking through the copper jar looking for the rare silvers and golds in our squad, we need a total reset under a new manager. Players with a freshness that aren't scarred by the disappointments of nearly winning the league and CL. Effectively, Ryan Mason is Tim Sherwood. If you look at the team Sherwood had to the squad Poch moulded there was a clear out and large player turnover. Of a squad of 42 only Walker, Rose, Vertonghen, Lamela, Dembele, Eriksen, Lloris and Kane remained part of his plans. That's 8 of 42. Check out the list of names inthat squad...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_Tottenham_Hotspur_F.C._season
We overhauled the squad and rebuilt. The same has to happen now as any new manager coming in will face the same tired faces. Poch had a bunch of new players in his mould to add to the quality we already had, so did Jose. The only way we can do the same for the new manager is to sell Kane. We can't give him the kind of money those two got.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Yeah... I’m afraid all my optimism where Spurs, Levy & Lewis is concerned is all used up..... I hope you’re right & I’m wrong
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.
I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 3 minutes ago
But, but, but Sandy....what happened to the Spurs title win at 50-1?
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That quickly fell by the wayside. It was only a bit of fun. And it it come off I would now be sunning myself in the Bahamas or similar.
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Damn you! I invested into bitcoins and was looking to retire!
posted on 29/4/21
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.
I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
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Under normal circumstances, Sandy, you're right but one of City, United or PSG could afford him (he won't consider Chelsea, I hope). Normally Levy would get a sniff a player wants to leave and will keep them on for one more season, like Eriksen, Bale etc. This year is different. If we get a bid in of £150m plus, Levy will deal. We're so short of money right now that it might just save us from a huge financial meltdown. There's a reason why Perez was so desperate to get the ESL off the ground and it's because both Real Madrid and Spurs face a financial crisis the likes of which haven't been seen before at this level owing to the crippling timing of their new stadiums.
Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.
I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
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I like Kane alot and in an ideal world he would stay.
However he is not above criticism because he has not done it when it really matters. Its all very well sticking a couple in against Burnley or Palace at the Lane but he missed 3 good chances in Zagreb.
On our greatest night in recent history he wasn't playing but when we didn't turn up the final he was. He needs to show some self awareness and take his share of the blame for our lack of trophies.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.
For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.
As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.
I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
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I like Kane alot and in an ideal world he would stay.
However he is not above criticism because he has not done it when it really matters. Its all very well sticking a couple in against Burnley or Palace at the Lane but he missed 3 good chances in Zagreb.
On our greatest night in recent history he wasn't playing but when we didn't turn up the final he was. He needs to show some self awareness and take his share of the blame for our lack of trophies.
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Doing it when it really matters requires the ball. Haaland didn't get a sniff against City with Dortmund for much the same reason. If 10 don't turn up then it's hard for the 11th to do anything. Sunday was absurd. City were that good. Mbappe didn't even get a shot off yesterday apparently. I think Sunday and the CL final (he was just unfit) are unfair criticisms. The other League Cup final we had under Poch, was in 2015 and our team wasn't on par with Chelsea's. We weren't expected to win that one so again he was quiet. Put him in a better team, his numbers will be frightening and quite frankly I won't begrudge him making that next step. He's been as loyal as he can be to us now. I'd hate for him to retire with a bitterness towards the club.
posted on 29/4/21
If you hadnt sacked Jose you could have had a trophy by now.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 11 minutes ago
If you hadnt sacked Jose you could have had a trophy by now.
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Let's see how you get on tonight before you start playing that game fella. We're having an awful season but you're still 3 places below us. Got a feeling this is gonna be one of those be careful what you wish for ties. The sacked manager returns for revenge.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
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Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
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You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.
Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.
City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.
PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.
Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.
Just my POV of course.
posted on 29/4/21
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 17 minutes ago
If you hadnt sacked Jose you could have had a trophy by now.
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Jose should have gone after the Zagreb game but having not got rid at that time it was ridiculous to get rid 6 days before a final.
Its as if the powers that be are trying to run the club in the worst way possible to give others a laugh.
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