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comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 29/4/21

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 17 minutes ago
If you hadnt sacked Jose you could have had a trophy by now.

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Jose should have gone after the Zagreb game but having not got rid at that time it was ridiculous to get rid 6 days before a final.

Its as if the powers that be are trying to run the club in the worst way possible to give others a laugh.

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And now after giving Jose the boot the remit for the next manager apparently (according to Ali G) is someone who is progressive, who will front a new project and play more attacking football, which makes you question why the hell we appointed Jose in the first place.

It's complete amateur hour at Spurs these days.

posted on 29/4/21

comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago

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Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
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You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.

Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.

City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.

PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.

Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.

Just my POV of course.
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Then he stays then which is fine by me. Think about it. Sell now and you're right, buyers are thin on the ground so it might be difficult to get 150 but give it a year of financial recovery, assuming the vaccination programme sees an uplift in fan attendance, and despite him having only 2 years on his contract by then, he'll probably be worth more than he would in the current climate on 3. If we don't get the money Levy won't just sell at the low end rate, he'll wait for the market to pick up, otherwise we lose a player for relative peanuts. We hold all the aces in this scenario.

posted on 29/4/21

comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago

...

Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
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You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.

Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.

City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.

PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.

Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.

Just my POV of course.
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Out of interest, what figure do you think we should be selling him for then? Kane and Haaland's contracts run out on the same day but Haaland's release clause kicks in next summer, at which point they'll have to listen to offers of £75m +. He's being quoted with a valuation of between £100-150m so I don't see why Kane wouldn't be. His all round game is way better than Haaland's. He's top of the goalscoring charts AND assists this season. I actually think £150m is damn cheap for a player that good.

posted on 29/4/21

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago

...

Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
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You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.

Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.

City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.

PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.

Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.

Just my POV of course.
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Then he stays then which is fine by me. Think about it. Sell now and you're right, buyers are thin on the ground so it might be difficult to get 150 but give it a year of financial recovery, assuming the vaccination programme sees an uplift in fan attendance, and despite him having only 2 years on his contract by then, he'll probably be worth more than he would in the current climate on 3. If we don't get the money Levy won't just sell at the low end rate, he'll wait for the market to pick up, otherwise we lose a player for relative peanuts. We hold all the aces in this scenario.
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If he has another reoccurrence of that ankle injury his value will only go down. Nobody is going to pay top dollar for a player who misses almost 1/3 of a season every year with his glass ankles?

posted on 29/4/21

comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago

...

Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
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You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.

Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.

City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.

PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.

Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.

Just my POV of course.
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Then he stays then which is fine by me. Think about it. Sell now and you're right, buyers are thin on the ground so it might be difficult to get 150 but give it a year of financial recovery, assuming the vaccination programme sees an uplift in fan attendance, and despite him having only 2 years on his contract by then, he'll probably be worth more than he would in the current climate on 3. If we don't get the money Levy won't just sell at the low end rate, he'll wait for the market to pick up, otherwise we lose a player for relative peanuts. We hold all the aces in this scenario.
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If he has another reoccurrence of that ankle injury his value will only go down. Nobody is going to pay top dollar for a player who misses almost 1/3 of a season every year with his glass ankles?
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Then we keep him.

posted on 29/4/21

comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago

...

Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.

Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.

City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.

PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.

Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.

Just my POV of course.
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That`s why I don`t think Kane will be leaving. No way will Spurs value one of the best strikers in the world less than £150 million and why should they?

posted on 29/4/21

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago

...

Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.

Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.

City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.

PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.

Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.

Just my POV of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then he stays then which is fine by me. Think about it. Sell now and you're right, buyers are thin on the ground so it might be difficult to get 150 but give it a year of financial recovery, assuming the vaccination programme sees an uplift in fan attendance, and despite him having only 2 years on his contract by then, he'll probably be worth more than he would in the current climate on 3. If we don't get the money Levy won't just sell at the low end rate, he'll wait for the market to pick up, otherwise we lose a player for relative peanuts. We hold all the aces in this scenario.
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If he has another reoccurrence of that ankle injury his value will only go down. Nobody is going to pay top dollar for a player who misses almost 1/3 of a season every year with his glass ankles?
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Then we keep him.
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Yep those glass ankles might keep him shackled to the lane in the same way Ledley's knees did. Loyalty is the product of poor fortune.

posted on 29/4/21

comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago

...

Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.

Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.

City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.

PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.

Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.

Just my POV of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then he stays then which is fine by me. Think about it. Sell now and you're right, buyers are thin on the ground so it might be difficult to get 150 but give it a year of financial recovery, assuming the vaccination programme sees an uplift in fan attendance, and despite him having only 2 years on his contract by then, he'll probably be worth more than he would in the current climate on 3. If we don't get the money Levy won't just sell at the low end rate, he'll wait for the market to pick up, otherwise we lose a player for relative peanuts. We hold all the aces in this scenario.
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If he has another reoccurrence of that ankle injury his value will only go down. Nobody is going to pay top dollar for a player who misses almost 1/3 of a season every year with his glass ankles?
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The thing is he doesn`t miss a third of the season every year, he has missed two or three games this season. To miss a third would be like 20 games. It gets exaggerated about the amount of games he misses. And he is always available for nearly every England game.

posted on 29/4/21

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 11 minutes ago
If you hadnt sacked Jose you could have had a trophy by now.

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Let's see how you get on tonight before you start playing that game fella. We're having an awful season but you're still 3 places below us. Got a feeling this is gonna be one of those be careful what you wish for ties. The sacked manager returns for revenge.
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I fully expect to lose over the 2 legs

posted on 29/4/21

Kane`s appearances in all competitions since 2015, not counting Internationals

2015 51
2016 50
2017 38
2018 48
2910 40
2020 34
2021 41 and counting

Over 300 appearances in all competitions. In effect he really gets not more injuries than your average modern player.

posted on 29/4/21

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago

...

Despite what I'd said in an earlier comment, if we did get £150m+ for Kane, I wouldn't mind betting that none of goes back into playing staff. I think we're about to hit the most painful period in the club's Premier League history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're having a laugh if you think you'd get anything near £150m in the current climate.

Neither of the Spanish big 2 have got a pot to piѕѕ in.

City have never spent anywhere close to £100m on a single player so will not be spending £150m on Kane.

PSG don't need him so it's unlikely they'd put in a bid unless they think they're going to lose Mbappe or Neymar.

Chelsea & United, pretty sure £150m prices both of those out of the market.

Just my POV of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then he stays then which is fine by me. Think about it. Sell now and you're right, buyers are thin on the ground so it might be difficult to get 150 but give it a year of financial recovery, assuming the vaccination programme sees an uplift in fan attendance, and despite him having only 2 years on his contract by then, he'll probably be worth more than he would in the current climate on 3. If we don't get the money Levy won't just sell at the low end rate, he'll wait for the market to pick up, otherwise we lose a player for relative peanuts. We hold all the aces in this scenario.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If he has another reoccurrence of that ankle injury his value will only go down. Nobody is going to pay top dollar for a player who misses almost 1/3 of a season every year with his glass ankles?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then we keep him.
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Yep those glass ankles might keep him shackled to the lane in the same way Ledley's knees did. Loyalty is the product of poor fortune.
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And lucrative contracts

posted on 29/4/21

comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 11 minutes ago
If you hadnt sacked Jose you could have had a trophy by now.

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Let's see how you get on tonight before you start playing that game fella. We're having an awful season but you're still 3 places below us. Got a feeling this is gonna be one of those be careful what you wish for ties. The sacked manager returns for revenge.
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I fully expect to lose over the 2 legs
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What's the general feeling about Arteta amongst the Arsenal fans. I get the impression they're waiting for things to kickstart so he can play the kind of football Pep-stye but it's just not happening. I get that you probably don't have the players yet but you've looked woeful in the games I've seen recently. Aubameyang's form has fallen off a cliff and you've got two youngsters in Saka and Smith-Rowe carrying the entire team.

posted on 29/4/21

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.

For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.

As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.

I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
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I like Kane alot and in an ideal world he would stay.

However he is not above criticism because he has not done it when it really matters. Its all very well sticking a couple in against Burnley or Palace at the Lane but he missed 3 good chances in Zagreb.

On our greatest night in recent history he wasn't playing but when we didn't turn up the final he was. He needs to show some self awareness and take his share of the blame for our lack of trophies.
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Doing it when it really matters requires the ball. Haaland didn't get a sniff against City with Dortmund for much the same reason. If 10 don't turn up then it's hard for the 11th to do anything. Sunday was absurd. City were that good. Mbappe didn't even get a shot off yesterday apparently. I think Sunday and the CL final (he was just unfit) are unfair criticisms. The other League Cup final we had under Poch, was in 2015 and our team wasn't on par with Chelsea's. We weren't expected to win that one so again he was quiet. Put him in a better team, his numbers will be frightening and quite frankly I won't begrudge him making that next step. He's been as loyal as he can be to us now. I'd hate for him to retire with a bitterness towards the club.
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Shearer had multiple surgeries and averaged about 30 league games a season.

He holds the EPL scoring record.

Kane on av. misses 5 league games a season.

posted on 29/4/21

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
United are easily the best team left in it. As for Spurs I see ZERO positive new on the horizon. I think Kane is gone this summer, Levy will do shlt job reinvesting the funds/or paying off stadium. Our next hire will be Pooch mk2 (it will be lots of talk about a project and developing young players. I think its mid table mediocrity for us for the next few years.... We are a club going nowhere
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Wow that's a very miserable outlook.

For me, even if Kane were to go I would be excited by a more youthful rebuild under the right manager.

As much as I love Kane and want him to stay, we've won nothing with him. For sure he is world class but he is not blameless in this shambles of a season. Perhaps a reset is what we need now to give us the best chance long term. I fear that we will not get a manger who will turn us in to title contenders in a season so its going to be a long game and is Kane prepared to stick around for that? He's probably thinking exactly that and wants trophies not another project.
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Absolutely. I like Kane a lot, but I don`t want his personal ambitions to come before Spurs as a club. No player should ever be bigger than a club. If Spurs sell him, it will because it will benefit Spurs and not Kane I would like to think.

I suspect though he will still be at Spurs next season, no club in the current climate would be able to afford himk, without falling foul of the FFP Rules.
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I like Kane alot and in an ideal world he would stay.

However he is not above criticism because he has not done it when it really matters. Its all very well sticking a couple in against Burnley or Palace at the Lane but he missed 3 good chances in Zagreb.

On our greatest night in recent history he wasn't playing but when we didn't turn up the final he was. He needs to show some self awareness and take his share of the blame for our lack of trophies.
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Doing it when it really matters requires the ball. Haaland didn't get a sniff against City with Dortmund for much the same reason. If 10 don't turn up then it's hard for the 11th to do anything. Sunday was absurd. City were that good. Mbappe didn't even get a shot off yesterday apparently. I think Sunday and the CL final (he was just unfit) are unfair criticisms. The other League Cup final we had under Poch, was in 2015 and our team wasn't on par with Chelsea's. We weren't expected to win that one so again he was quiet. Put him in a better team, his numbers will be frightening and quite frankly I won't begrudge him making that next step. He's been as loyal as he can be to us now. I'd hate for him to retire with a bitterness towards the club.
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Shearer had multiple surgeries and averaged about 30 league games a season.

He holds the EPL scoring record.

Kane on av. misses 5 league games a season.
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posted on 29/4/21

"The season could yet end even worse for Spurs supporters. Never mind next year will be our year. "
*********************
Guaranteeing next year are you?
Kane & Son may be leaving?
And there's a whole new back four needed.
At best it will be a rebuilding year.
Nothing more.

posted on 30/4/21

As I said don't be surprised to see Arsenal sneak into the CL. They were dead and buried at 2-0 and down to 10 men with most of the 2nd half still to play. Then they get the sort of luck Spurs can only dream of, gifted a penalty, then the opposition go down to 10 men.

posted on 30/4/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 22 minutes ago
As I said don't be surprised to see Arsenal sneak into the CL. They were dead and buried at 2-0 and down to 10 men with most of the 2nd half still to play. Then they get the sort of luck Spurs can only dream of, gifted a penalty, then the opposition go down to 10 men.
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You miss the point, as usual......
Spurs cannot even "sneak into CL".

posted on 30/4/21

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 22 minutes ago
As I said don't be surprised to see Arsenal sneak into the CL. They were dead and buried at 2-0 and down to 10 men with most of the 2nd half still to play. Then they get the sort of luck Spurs can only dream of, gifted a penalty, then the opposition go down to 10 men.
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You miss the point, as usual......
Spurs cannot even "sneak into CL".
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Have you been drinking Ted?

posted on 30/4/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 22 minutes ago
As I said don't be surprised to see Arsenal sneak into the CL. They were dead and buried at 2-0 and down to 10 men with most of the 2nd half still to play. Then they get the sort of luck Spurs can only dream of, gifted a penalty, then the opposition go down to 10 men.
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You miss the point, as usual......
Spurs cannot even "sneak into CL".
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Have you been drinking Ted?
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Sandy...you certainly have!
And have another one.....on me!

posted on 30/4/21

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 22 minutes ago
As I said don't be surprised to see Arsenal sneak into the CL. They were dead and buried at 2-0 and down to 10 men with most of the 2nd half still to play. Then they get the sort of luck Spurs can only dream of, gifted a penalty, then the opposition go down to 10 men.
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You miss the point, as usual......
Spurs cannot even "sneak into CL".
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Have you been drinking Ted?
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Sandy...you certainly have!
And have another one.....on me!
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Not had a drink since March 2020 Ted. I shall return to the pubs all in good time, when I can walk up to the bar and order a pint of the finest bitter. None of that lager rubbish for me.

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