Oh and jota who was our most in form striker has also managed a whopping 7 games more than stuff I too.

comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 1 minute ago
Oh and jota who was our most in form striker has also managed a whopping 7 games more than stuff I too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aguero **

Jurgen's the plank.

Any other manager would have said "We'll be back next season with a full squad to challenge for the title".

Not a whingefest worthy of a schoolgirl.

Ah right so ultimately you agree that nobody would win the league with our level of injuries. You'd just rather he have phrased it differently? That's fair enough. Although I imagine it was an answer to a direct question but reported as one bit paragraph as they always seem to do in football reporting.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
Why wasn't Pep squealing like a beetch about it then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Because City have you to do it don't they. You're having a mare as usual.

Having a mare?

I didn't write the article, merely posted Klopp's words of wisdom.

I’ve got no problem with what Klopp said. The media - running with as a headline - has put the negative spin on it that you Boris, seemed to have fallen for. But it’s a valid point that he makes.

He is putting Liverpool’s injuries into context and citing them as a reason for Liverpool’s poor defence of the title. It is a valid reason. To lose a player who was so instrumental in their title win, and then to lose others in the same position, is incredibly unfortunate for them.

I haven't fallen for anything, on the 2 occasions Pep hasn't won the league he's been fairly magnanimous about it and hasn't pinned his failures on anything other than himself.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 seconds ago
Our problems last season were off the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I saw plenty of problems on the pitch. Especially in defence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We conceded 2 goals more than you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes- you recovered, like Liverpool have done, towards the end of the season and Liverpool had long took their foot off the gas having had the league won at the earliest point in top division history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The dip in form coincided withe the UEFA farce which put a lot of players contracts in jeopardy because they are linked to bonuses.

As soon as CAS threw the ridiculous charges out, City won 7 of their last 8 games.

They was also the issue of Liverpool and 8 other clubs secretly trying to get the PL to sanction City.

I'm sure Pep would have loved to have highlighted all these underlying factors but chose not to..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a load of nonsense. City's poor form was before the ban was announced and in fact you were pummelling teams after the announcement. If you want to somehow claim the ban had any effect on performances then the ban had a positive impact, which is equally as stupid a claim as yours.

We still had a relatively good season, finished 15 pts ahead of 3rd place but there was no bleating from the our manager about underlying issues, many of which were amplified by the media predicting Pep and our best players would leave.

City never had a period of “poor” form in the premier league 2019-20 season. There was no point during that season where we failed to win for two consecutive games.

The worst spell was over a period of five games - L W D W L - which happened between 10 November and 7th December.

The ban was announced on 14th February. The period between the ban being announced and then overturned (14th Feb - 13th July), we played 14 games, winning 12 and losing 2.

Boris you don’t half talk some absolute boll0cks

The ban didn't just come out of the blue one day.

It had been a talking point amongst the fans since the day UEFA announced they were holding a trial behind closed doors.

Obviously the players knew more about what was going on and the media was full of stories about Pep leaving and players wanting to terminate their contracts.

This article is about Jurgen Klopp's comments, why is it suddenly about City the season before?

becuse...scousers

comment by bestoftherest2021 (U22523)
posted 6 hours, 29 minutes ago
Boris you honestly think Pep cares about Man-city? he was going to leave before he was given 125 million in transfers over the summer.. 2 defenders that cost 65 and 45 million.
The only person Guardiola cares about is his own record has manager. hes spent the most money in the entire history of football. while managing the joint biggest team in Spain, biggest team in Germany andthe one of the joint biggest clubs in England. while spending nigh on a billion at Man-city
So Klopp is right
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Just reading through the thread, and this post is just a joke. His “So Klopp is right” conclusion at the end has absolutely nothing to do with the made up rubbish he wrote before it.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
The ban didn't just come out of the blue one day.

It had been a talking point amongst the fans since the day UEFA announced they were holding a trial behind closed doors.

Obviously the players knew more about what was going on and the media was full of stories about Pep leaving and players wanting to terminate their contracts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

But at no point was our form “poor” during that season. Sorry Boris, but I don’t agree with you on this. At no point during that season did we suffer a significant downturn in form, and any loss (the losses were spread pretty evenly across the season and were interspersed with many wins) can not be put down to the players all worrying about bonuses.

Also, the reason why City in 2019-20 is being talked about should be blatantly obvious to you.

So you don't think it was a factor our performances were below the standards set the previous year?

We started well and the loss at Norwich made headlines across the planet but slowly we lost our buzz and I don't think it was entirely down to losing a few players.

The long winning runs had gone and the "You score 3 then we'll score 4" attittude had evaporated.

Me and my City mates complained more than anyone at the club which is why I made an article about Jurgens comments.

No I don’t think it was a factor. The stats simply don’t back it up.

The 100 points season - never before achieved - was incredible. To follow that up with 98 points the following season was remarkable. To do that three seasons in a row unthinkable. This season we went on a similar run, but currently have “only” achieved 83 points - 2 more than we achieved last season. That puts into context what we achieved during those two seasons when we won the league. To maintain that is to expect too much.

Our losses last season were spread across the season. There was no dip in form. The worst run was - L W D W L - and that happened in November/December - the CL ban was announced in February. I’ve already pointed to our form during the period when the investigation was officially opened and closed - 12 wins in 14 games. If the announcement was known by the club before it was announced, then it made no difference to our form. But when it was actually announced, our form was very good.

You are reaching with this Boris. I don’t agree with you. Nothing what actually did happen backs up what you say.

So think our failure to maintain the pressure on Liverpool was entirely down to the absence of Laporte and possibly Sane?

In part yes. It absolutely played a part. Not entirely however. Overall we were too inconsistent away from home, while Liverpool themselves had the bit between their teeth and were relentless. The title was lost long before it was mathematically won. That, psychologically, had a bigger affect on our defence of the title that season.

It had nothing to do with UEFA’s spurious claims made against us.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbymcmahon/2020/02/16/uefa-ban-manchester-city-for-2-years-separating-the-facts-from-fiction/?sh=580e06d204fc

This is a good example of what the backdrop was at the time, I'm still convinced it played a part.

Saying that, Liverpool had a remarkable season and probably would have won the league if City didn't have distractions and injuries.

It is a good example, but then how far back do you want to go with this?

The club fought it every step of the way. Don’t you think that the club, confident in its ability to successfully counter any allegations made (and that proved successful against the allegations made), would have relayed this to the players?

The backdrop that your intent on giving credence to was dismissed by the club. The club would have dismissed this to the players. No one at the club was in the dark about what was going on. The players especially would have most likely been told that it will not affect their contracts.

And that proved to be the case.

It’s a naive way of thinking that the players’ concerns for their own financial well-being played a significant (any) part in our failure to win the league that season.

We didn’t win it because we weren’t good enough. We didn’t win it because Liverpool were better.

This season, Liverpool have been hampered by injuries. Had they not been, then it isn’t a stretch to say.

1) Liverpool would have put up a better defence of the title

2) if City had suffered the kind of long term injuries to key players that Liverpool have, then we may well have not won the title.

Players have greedy agents, they also read the papers and have friends at other clubs.

It's naive to think it had no effect.

But the results throughout the season show that it didn’t have an affect.

Like I said earlier - third time now stating this -

The period when the investigation was announced to its conclusion - we won 12 out of 14 games played.